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  • #13
    Originally posted by YM Salute View Post
    Wayne started off as a gangsta rapper which obviously correlates to when he started rapping, the 90s where gangsta rap was heavy, and Wayne had like a "gritty" unique feel to his. Carter 2 is, to me, him in his rawest gangsta form mainly because of Lock & Load.

    BUT Wayne, unlike some that stay to one "type" of Hip Hop, was able to successfully branch off to all aspects of the genre. Not only has he done that, but he completely mastered Hip Hop as a whole, grew bored with it, and branched out into rock/r&b/pop.

    Thing is with J.Cole, Kendrick, Eminem, etc... they aren't as versatile as Wayne, and that is what people fail to see. Can Jay-Z create a pop track by himself and make it sound good? No. Can J.Cole/Kendrick create gangsta rap verses and have it backed up with Wayne's delivery? Nah. Can Eminem create an insanely monumental drugged out song such as I Feel Like Dying or work with trap beats? Nope.

    Wayne's an overall well-rounded artist. Picture a game where you have a character or car that is well-rounded... but then you got a character/car that's fast, but bad defenses.. or high defenses, but bad speed. Wayne's that one well-rounded person in all aspects.

    /thread i take the W award ceremony at 7pm est on July 19th in op's living room
    but why do alot of people say this was a bad choice, people say lil wayne is fake, like how you gonna become a skateboarder from being a gangsta and still expect ppl to respect you like a gangsta. This dude has attempted to stay relevant by selling his image so many times it just got annoying. While rappers like Eminem, Kdot, Cole, remain true to who they are. You don't think that em, cole , and kdot can one day become a rapper like 2chainz and just dumb down their lyrics complelty over mainstream beats? They choose to stay in their lane because they want to, and thats who they are. Unlike wayne who is greedy and wants all the attention on himself so he constantly has to sell his image to remain in the spotlight. Like come on bruh its obvious, when Wolf Gang was getting big, this nigga started skateboarding and showed up at a Wolf Gang concert many times, like wtf for? Wayne has gangster roots, its true, but obviosuly he aint pulling the shots for himself no more. Industry got him all kinds of messed up now, he aint escaping they tell that dude to wear a dress, he gonna have to follow

    a rapper like lupe isnt going to make a club hit like "Bitches Love Me" not because he is unable to , or he lacks the talent, but because it isnt him, he isnt going to, thats not the fanbase he wants to reach. People would lose respect for him, just the way ppl lost respect for wayne.
    Last edited by KidComet; 07-04-2013, 09:38 PM.

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    • #14
      Originally posted by KidComet View Post
      (1) but why do alot of people say this was a bad choice, people say lil wayne is fake, like how you gonna become a skateboarder from being a gangsta and still expect ppl to respect you like a gangsta. This (2) dude has attempted to stay relevant by selling his image so many times it just got annoying. (3) While rappers like Eminem, Kdot, Cole, remain true to who they are. You don't think that em, cole , and kdot can one day become a rapper like 2chainz and just dumb down their lyrics complelty over mainstream beats? They choose to stay in their lane because they want to, and thats who they are. (4) Unlike wayne who is greedy and wants all the attention on himself so he constantly has to sell his image to remain in the spotlight. Like come on bruh its obvious, when Wolf Gang was getting big, this nigga started skateboarding and showed up at a Wolf Gang concert many times, like wtf for? Wayne has gangster roots, its true, but obviosuly he aint pulling the shots for himself no more. Industry got him all kinds of messed up now, he aint escaping they tell that dude to wear a dress, he gonna have to follow

      (5) a rapper like lupe isnt going to make a club hit like "Bitches Love Me" not because he is unable to , or he lacks the talent, but because it isnt him, he isnt going to, thats not the fanbase he wants to reach. People would lose respect for him, just the way ppl lost respect for wayne.
      1) its "cool" to "hate" Wayne these days and if Wayne rapped about what he used to (even if he wasn't skateboarding) people would say its fake. He's living in Miami, if he rapped about selling drugs and shit people would call it fake cause hes not in N.O no more. And I didn't know an activity judged if you could be a gangsta or not. I know two friends that are bloods that are in jail for 5 years and them niggas fuckin play yu gi oh cards.

      2) its called getting bored. He said many times he got bored and did everything in rap and branched off. Let the nigga have fun, its his choice. He been rapping for over 20 years nigga you prolly like 17, were you the same 5-10 years ago? nah.

      3) LOL... ya head so far up ya ass. Eminem fell off so bad from Dear Stan to now. His freestyles, flow, delivery, and raps about his depressed fucking ass life was what was his drive. K.Dot ain't THAT new but he started off as a carbon copy of Wayne with his mixtape the nigga basically idolized him and obv Wayne has influences on him. His album GKMC is insanely great, which brings up two problems: 1) a whole bunch of faggots like you that claim he's the greatest rapper alive/GOAT/better than Jay-Z/Kanye/Wayne overall and 2) he basically hurt himself. You know how fucking hard it'll be to top GKMC? If he comes up with his 2nd album and it ends up being worse hit won't look good. J.Cole's Born Sinner is really great and he's impressive but his lack of work ethic is sad. Give him about 5 years and tell me he won't change from now... he'll have to break the boundaries and be a big hit sooner or later.

      4) So you could say the same shit about anyone that has gained insane success and became a huge music icon. Obviously he said he likes Wolf Gang, or was sort of big on them around 2011, but he prolly wanted other interests so he could make it thru probation or was just interested in it. They not the only ones that fucking did shit like that.

      5) No there's certain things he can't do that Wayne could. Could he do I Feel Like Dying? Me And My Drank? Tha Mobb? No. Wayne's his own person. And Wayne is a southern rapper that was pushing the boundaries. Some fail to realize that coming from where he came, gaining the respect from people from all parts of the US and worldwide was something that would feel so rewarding. Carter 3 allowed him to do just that on a worldwide scale with Lollipop. Wayne loves trying new things and testing his limits, he has a "does not give a fuck" attitude, etc.



      inb4 "tl;dr" cause ya attention span aint shit:
      Honestly you're so annoying. You're like the embodiment of all the Wayne haters combined into one person on a fucking WAYNE FANSITE. Nigga I know you here for "the members" but we're not here for you nigga. fuck you gon keep bashing this nigga wayne. just fucking leave. give these "members" that you wanna keep in contact with ya email/fb/instagram/twitter what fucking ever cause you really like a fucking itch. you parasitic ass nigga.

      edit: ok that last part was harsh but you are some annoying ass nigga
      Last edited by YM Salute; 07-04-2013, 10:21 PM.

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      • #15
        Originally posted by KidComet View Post
        but why do alot of people say this was a bad choice, people say lil wayne is fake, like how you gonna become a skateboarder from being a gangsta and still expect ppl to respect you like a gangsta. This dude has attempted to stay relevant by selling his image so many times it just got annoying. While rappers like Eminem, Kdot, Cole, remain true to who they are. You don't think that em, cole , and kdot can one day become a rapper like 2chainz and just dumb down their lyrics complelty over mainstream beats? They choose to stay in their lane because they want to, and thats who they are. Unlike wayne who is greedy and wants all the attention on himself so he constantly has to sell his image to remain in the spotlight. Like come on bruh its obvious, when Wolf Gang was getting big, this nigga started skateboarding and showed up at a Wolf Gang concert many times, like wtf for? Wayne has gangster roots, its true, but obviosuly he aint pulling the shots for himself no more. Industry got him all kinds of messed up now, he aint escaping they tell that dude to wear a dress, he gonna have to follow

        a rapper like lupe isnt going to make a club hit like "Bitches Love Me" not because he is unable to , or he lacks the talent, but because it isnt him, he isnt going to, thats not the fanbase he wants to reach. People would lose respect for him, just the way ppl lost respect for wayne.
        Any mainstream rapper who tries to act hard after they make it is a complete liar. And Wayne isn't changing to stay relevant or popular, you can clearly see that with his sales with IAHB2. He changed purely because of the fact that he is bored with rap. There is nothing more for him to accomplish in the game. Wayne still skates and hangs out with Wolf Gang even after they have fallen off and have lost their popularity, he does what he does because he wants to. Plain and simple.

        Wayne doesn't want fucking attention or else he would be wearing leather kilts, fucking Kim Kardashian, and making wierd scream-rap.

        Literally every rapper you just listed has changed with the times and changed their style up.

        Em has had a huge style change from when he first started out because it would be fucking weird for a 40yr old grown white man to wear baggy clothes and have bleach hair talking about rape. Kendrick bit Wayne's style basically for fucking 2 yrs and even made a mixtape purely rapping over Wayne beats, Lupe is getting into some wierd African activist -conspiracy type shit, and J. Cole used to rap more about family struggle with finances and instead raps more about women now a days.

        Every Rapper changes with the times man, whether they choose to for popularity reasons, or whether they do because they get bored of what they did for such a long time. Get over it.
        Official Lil Wayne Rap Genius Thread: http://www.lilwaynehq.com/forums/lil...s-respect.html

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        • #16
          Originally posted by YM Salute View Post
          1) its "cool" to "hate" Wayne these days and if Wayne rapped about what he used to (even if he wasn't skateboarding) people would say its fake. He's living in Miami, if he rapped about selling drugs and shit people would call it fake cause hes not in N.O no more. And I didn't know an activity judged if you could be a gangsta or not. I know two friends that are bloods that are in jail for 5 years and them niggas fuckin play yu gi oh cards.

          2) its called getting bored. He said many times he got bored and did everything in rap and branched off. Let the nigga have fun, its his choice. He been rapping for over 20 years nigga you prolly like 17, were you the same 5-10 years ago? nah.

          3) LOL... ya head so far up ya ass. Eminem fell off so bad from Dear Stan to now. His freestyles, flow, delivery, and raps about his depressed fucking ass life was what was his drive. K.Dot ain't THAT new but he started off as a carbon copy of Wayne with his mixtape the nigga basically idolized him and obv Wayne has influences on him. His album GKMC is insanely great, which brings up two problems: 1) a whole bunch of faggots like you that claim he's the greatest rapper alive/GOAT/better than Jay-Z/Kanye/Wayne overall and 2) he basically hurt himself. You know how fucking hard it'll be to top GKMC? If he comes up with his 2nd album and it ends up being worse hit won't look good. J.Cole's Born Sinner is really great and he's impressive but his lack of work ethic is sad. Give him about 5 years and tell me he won't change from now... he'll have to break the boundaries and be a big hit sooner or later.

          4) So you could say the same shit about anyone that has gained insane success and became a huge music icon. Obviously he said he likes Wolf Gang, or was sort of big on them around 2011, but he prolly wanted other interests so he could make it thru probation or was just interested in it. They not the only ones that fucking did shit like that.

          5) No there's certain things he can't do that Wayne could. Could he do I Feel Like Dying? Me And My Drank? Tha Mobb? No. Wayne's his own person. And Wayne is a southern rapper that was pushing the boundaries. Some fail to realize that coming from where he came, gaining the respect from people from all parts of the US and worldwide was something that would feel so rewarding. Carter 3 allowed him to do just that on a worldwide scale with Lollipop. Wayne loves trying new things and testing his limits, he has a "does not give a fuck" attitude, etc.



          inb4 "tl;dr" cause ya attention span aint shit:
          Honestly you're so annoying. You're like the embodiment of all the Wayne haters combined into one person on a fucking WAYNE FANSITE. Nigga I know you here for "the members" but we're not here for you nigga. fuck you gon keep bashing this nigga wayne. just fucking leave. give these "members" that you wanna keep in contact with ya email/fb/instagram/twitter what fucking ever cause you really like a fucking itch. you parasitic ass nigga.

          edit: ok that last part was harsh but you are some annoying ass nigga





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          Originally posted by neil.seward View Post
          Any mainstream rapper who tries to act hard after they make it is a complete liar. And Wayne isn't changing to stay relevant or popular, you can clearly see that with his sales with IAHB2. He changed purely because of the fact that he is bored with rap. There is nothing more for him to accomplish in the game. Wayne still skates and hangs out with Wolf Gang even after they have fallen off and have lost their popularity, he does what he does because he wants to. Plain and simple.

          Wayne doesn't want fucking attention or else he would be wearing leather kilts, fucking Kim Kardashian, and making wierd scream-rap.

          Literally every rapper you just listed has changed with the times and changed their style up.

          Em has had a huge style change from when he first started out because it would be fucking weird for a 40yr old grown white man to wear baggy clothes and have bleach hair talking about rape. Kendrick bit Wayne's style basically for fucking 2 yrs and even made a mixtape purely rapping over Wayne beats, Lupe is getting into some wierd African activist -conspiracy type shit, and J. Cole used to rap more about family struggle with finances and instead raps more about women now a days.

          Every Rapper changes with the times man, whether they choose to for popularity reasons, or whether they do because they get bored of what they did for such a long time. Get over it.
          tl dr


          too easy lol

          yall know i dnt care for what u have to say lol but u care about what I say, aint that somethin

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          • #17
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            Originally posted by KidComet View Post
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            tl dr


            too easy lol

            yall know i dnt care for what u have to say lol but u care about what I say, aint that somethin


            Last edited by Bill Laimbeer; 02-24-2014, 11:56 AM.
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            • #18
              Originally posted by neil.seward View Post
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              Damn bruh I been looking for that picture for the longest, preciate it man



              edit: damn man u dnt even know how long i was searching for that , I thought it was way back their in the post your pics thread, i thought I would have to go looking, i aint even attempt to look for it,

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              Originally posted by KidComet View Post
              Damn bruh I been looking for that picture for the longest, preciate it man



              edit: damn man u dnt even know how long i was searching for that , I thought it was way back their in the post your pics thread, i thought I would have to go looking, i aint even attempt to look for it,
              edit again: I find it hiliarous that both of you niggas probally never write like that for school, but to defend this nigga lil wayne that you have hidden homosexual feelings for, you quickly write an essay looool, yall gotta get over this fool, he's just a rapper, thats it, he aint God, maybe he is to you, and if he is, loool, your dumber than a rock. but seriously, you should not feel so offeneded when I talk bad about a man who dont care about you or care you exist. You know everytime u see "Lil Wayne sucks" somewhere u get that lil boiling anger in your blood. Thats that Justin Bieber little girl fan base type ish, you type Justin Bieber Sucks, a hoard of girls come and attack you lool, thats how yall look, except its for a 30 year old man with dreads

              bahahah yall gotta stop riding that wayne dk
              Last edited by Wisheezy; 02-24-2014, 03:54 PM.

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              • #19
                Originally posted by KidComet View Post
                but why do alot of people say this was a bad choice, people say lil wayne is fake, like how you gonna become a skateboarder from being a gangsta and still expect ppl to respect you like a gangsta. This dude has attempted to stay relevant by selling his image so many times it just got annoying. While rappers like Eminem, Kdot, Cole, remain true to who they are. You don't think that em, cole , and kdot can one day become a rapper like 2chainz and just dumb down their lyrics complelty over mainstream beats? They choose to stay in their lane because they want to, and thats who they are. Unlike wayne who is greedy and wants all the attention on himself so he constantly has to sell his image to remain in the spotlight. Like come on bruh its obvious, when Wolf Gang was getting big, this nigga started skateboarding and showed up at a Wolf Gang concert many times, like wtf for? Wayne has gangster roots, its true, but obviosuly he aint pulling the shots for himself no more. Industry got him all kinds of messed up now, he aint escaping they tell that dude to wear a dress, he gonna have to follow

                a rapper like lupe isnt going to make a club hit like "Bitches Love Me" not because he is unable to , or he lacks the talent, but because it isnt him, he isnt going to, thats not the fanbase he wants to reach. People would lose respect for him, just the way ppl lost respect for wayne.
                I agree dude but this is a lil wayne site. Almost everyone here is a dickrider so good luck trying to convince them

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                • #20
                  Originally posted by Lil Waynes Height View Post
                  I agree dude but this is a lil wayne site. Almost everyone here is a dickrider so good luck trying to convince them
                  I aint gotta convince em, i know Im not, but i like pissin em off

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                  • #21
                    Weezy dat nigga but Wayne was wearin dem zebra leggings and those green boots? U kno where damn well where you got that, and it wasn't the men's department

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                    • #22
                      Originally posted by neil.seward View Post
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                      LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

                      Originally posted by KidComet View Post
                      edit again: I find it hiliarous that both of you niggas probally never write like that for school, but to defend this nigga lil wayne that you have hidden homosexual feelings for, you quickly write an essay looool, yall gotta get over this fool, he's just a rapper, thats it, he aint God, maybe he is to you, and if he is, loool, your dumber than a rock. but seriously, you should not feel so offeneded when I talk bad about a man who dont care about you or care you exist. You know everytime u see "Lil Wayne sucks" somewhere u get that lil boiling anger in your blood. Thats that Justin Bieber little girl fan base type ish, you type Justin Bieber Sucks, a hoard of girls come and attack you lool, thats how yall look, except its for a 30 year old man with dreads

                      bahahah yall gotta stop riding that wayne dk
                      while you're typing your hatred towards another man i'm pretty sure you could be doing something beneficial to your life. hating on someone else's success is pretty pathetic if you ask me.

                      Originally posted by Lil Waynes Height View Post
                      I agree dude but this is a lil wayne site. Almost everyone here is a dickrider so good luck trying to convince them
                      And to you and that @KidComet faggot it's sad that you can't defend/like/have a favorite artist without being a dickrider. Wayne obviously has a fair share of shit songs like Wowzers, La La, Imma Boss remix, etc. being a dickrider is enjoying every little piece of shit the nigga does which I dont. so fuck outta here go to 4chan or some shit where yall belong. thats where the rest of society's trash with no future end up anyway.

                      on that note im done replying to kidfaggot and his sidechick since yall niggas aint bout shit
                      Last edited by Wisheezy; 02-24-2014, 03:54 PM.

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                      • #23
                        Originally posted by YM Salute View Post
                        LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



                        while you're typing your hatred towards another man i'm pretty sure you could be doing something beneficial to your life. hating on someone else's success is pretty pathetic if you ask me.



                        And to you and that @KidComet faggot it's sad that you can't defend/like/have a favorite artist without being a dickrider. Wayne obviously has a fair share of shit songs like Wowzers, La La, Imma Boss remix, etc. being a dickrider is enjoying every little piece of shit the nigga does which I dont. so fuck outta here go to 4chan or some shit where yall belong. thats where the rest of society's trash with no future end up anyway.

                        on that note im done replying to kidfaggot and his sidechick since yall niggas aint bout shit

                        Im not hating his success, anyone could be successful in this life, if you got the heart to sell yo soul fo that fame then by all means go for it, I hate the fact that he got yall niggas blinded 100%.


                        You got it twisted. Im society's trash for what reason? Because I come here to talk against the man your in love with? I do have btter things to do, your right, but your just as bad for taking your time out to respond to me.



                        Look how mad i got you, you putting my name in your status looool,

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                        • #24
                          Originally posted by KidComet View Post
                          Im not hating his success, anyone could be successful in this life, if you got the heart to sell yo soul fo that fame then by all means go for it, I hate the fact that he got yall niggas blinded 100%.


                          You got it twisted. Im society's trash for what reason? Because I come here to talk against the man your in love with? I do have btter things to do, your right, but your just as bad for taking your time out to respond to me.



                          Look how mad i got you, you putting my name in your status looool,
                          Bruh you said he was irrelevant. He would've been irrelevant around 2007 (on a worldwide stance) and died off if he didn't do something and change some things and reach a different/larger audience. It was these "changes" that still has him as one of the biggest names in Hip Hop. Yeah he changes often but that's cause he wants to try different things, he just likes having fun and trying new things.

                          I said you're trash because think about it. All you do is talk shit and complain about him. We get it, we ALL know you don't like him. Doesn't mean you have to keep announcing it. I don't go to shit like Soulja Boy vids on YT talking shit. Why? Cause I have no reason being there if I don't like that artist. And if I don't like him, I'll say it once, maybe a few times, not constantly. We get it and you just constantly keep bashing him for no reason.

                          If you don't like him, fine. Just respect who he was at the least. People are so quick to hate on someone than find the things they've done and actually show respect for it.

                          Again, "in love with", having a favorite artist automatically means that. No, and that's why I said you're trash. You assume shit like that just cause someone has a favorite artist that they defend. I obviously don't defend/justify everything he does. Kissing Birdman back then, making Wowzers, etc. I admit when he drops pure shit tracks or something.

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