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  • #13
    Originally posted by Vocker View Post
    He should have retired, if thats the embarrassment he's releasing.

    Back then, people used to think Birdman was pushing Wayne down, Birds the one making him release whack music, surround him with yesmen..When he left everybody had their hopes up, thinking now he can be who he truly is.

    But nope, now he's completely unmotivated, even worst then before, all he cares about is going to some tour, singing the same old songs over and over again to make money on the end. He doesn't care about his career anymore, instead ruining his legacy with the half ass verses he keeps releasing.

    Like Funk said...Fuck the Carter 5..i don't even want to listen to this shit...release some original music and mixtape, get your hype and legitimacy back as a respectful rapper, then make the money from huge tours and concerts, you don't need that 'universal machine' as Flex said.

    Wayne is just becoming like the other rappers that left Cash Money before him...worthless, proving he can't do anything right without birdman.... Where Juvenile at today? Still over there talking about 'I still ain't took my cut from birdman...i was gonna be someone'..lol


    he might as well retire for real.


    alright you definitely lost me

    we have no idea whats happening behind the scenes but we know enough that it is obvious that Wayne isnt able to have full creative control on his projects and is also not able to drop what he wants when he wants in terms of albums

    he'd literally have to be producing mixtapes and thats all FWA is constantly getting taken down and banned i mean try search for it online its almost impossible unless your on TIDAL which is a dead service

    Wayne is stuck in a place he cant move where any little mishap could literally cause his current case to take 10 steps back literally everything can be used against him he has to tip-toe on egg shells in order to allow his career to move forward at all

    also not to mention you cant live off fckin mixtapes which rappers live off mixtapes?? especially mixtapes you cant post up on the big hitter platforms like Spotify and Apple Music is wayne meant to live off Datpiff plays?

    Albums have a higher production price especially someone at waynes level to pay producers and features and all the extra little shit you hear in albums needs to be approved by a label and paid for by a label aint shit free bro!




    #FREEVELVET

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    • #14
      Originally posted by Vocker View Post
      He should have retired, if thats the embarrassment he's releasing.

      Back then, people used to think Birdman was pushing Wayne down, Birds the one making him release whack music, surround him with yesmen..When he left everybody had their hopes up, thinking now he can be who he truly is.

      But nope, now he's completely unmotivated, even worst then before, all he cares about is going to some tour, singing the same old songs over and over again to make money on the end. He doesn't care about his career anymore, instead ruining his legacy with the half ass verses he keeps releasing.

      Like Funk said...Fuck the Carter 5..i don't even want to listen to this shit...release some original music and mixtape, get your hype and legitimacy back as a respectful rapper, then make the money from huge tours and concerts, you don't need that 'universal machine' as Flex said.

      Wayne is just becoming like the other rappers that left Cash Money before him...worthless, proving he can't do anything right without birdman.... Where Juvenile at today? Still over there talking about 'I still ain't took my cut from birdman...i was gonna be someone'..lol


      he might as well retire for real.
      Ain't Juvie signed back with Cash Money? Why isn't he poppin again with Birdman backing him?

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      • #15
        Originally posted by Lil_zimmie View Post
        alright you definitely lost me

        we have no idea whats happening behind the scenes but we know enough that it is obvious that Wayne isnt able to have full creative control on his projects and is also not able to drop what he wants when he wants in terms of albums
        He doesn't have to release albums using huge record labels like Universal. He can control over his features, has control over his tours and concerts, has control over his mixtapes.

        he'd literally have to be producing mixtapes and thats all FWA is constantly getting taken down and banned i mean try search for it online its almost impossible unless your on TIDAL which is a dead service
        That's because he put FWA on TIDAL [which was a failed idea from him lol]..Its not Birdman taking it down...its Jay z lol

        Wayne is stuck in a place he cant move where any little mishap could literally cause his current case to take 10 steps back literally everything can be used against him he has to tip-toe on egg shells in order to allow his career to move forward at all
        Wayne is stuck in his place because he wants to be stuck there mate..

        also not to mention you cant live off fckin mixtapes which rappers live off mixtapes?? especially mixtapes you cant post up on the big hitter platforms like Spotify and Apple Music is wayne meant to live off Datpiff plays?
        Albums have a higher production price especially someone at waynes level to pay producers and features and all the extra little shit you hear in albums needs to be approved by a label and paid for by a label aint shit free bro!
        Ummmm...Every rapper in the game right now? lol

        Let me remind you, artists do not make their money off their albums..record labels take the money of that, they make money from the tours and concerts.

        You got to pay money to make money...releasing 'free shit' that is original and worth listening to = increase in fan base = bigger concerts = more money.

        Wayne scratches off the music and increase of fan base part and goes directly to the concerts part with hopes that his current fan base will always be feeding him. What he gets wrong is he's losing alot of his fans everyday, people getting sick of listening to his old shit, and less people show up on his concerts...just last week we saw him calling his 'goon squad' because the crowd threw bottles on him.

        He's losing legitimacy, because he's unmotivated.

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        Originally posted by TheMaker420 View Post
        Ain't Juvie signed back with Cash Money? Why isn't he poppin again with Birdman backing him?
        Too late now...He is a nobody right now.

        If Wayne keeps it up..he'll soon become as irrelevant as Juve, then in 5 years he'll come back crawling to Birdman, but it already be too late for him.
        Originally posted by Shake
        Why so negative all the time???

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        • #16
          Originally posted by Vocker View Post
          He doesn't have to release albums using huge record labels like Universal. He can control over his features, has control over his tours and concerts, has control over his mixtapes.



          That's because he put FWA on TIDAL [which was a failed idea from him lol]..Its not Birdman taking it down...its Jay z lol



          Wayne is stuck in his place because he wants to be stuck there mate..



          Ummmm...Every rapper in the game right now? lol

          Let me remind you, artists do not make their money off their albums..record labels take the money of that, they make money from the tours and concerts.

          You got to pay money to make money...releasing 'free shit' that is original and worth listening to = increase in fan base = bigger concerts = more money.

          Wayne scratches off the music and increase of fan base part and goes directly to the concerts part with hopes that his current fan base will always be feeding him. What he gets wrong is he's losing alot of his fans everyday, people getting sick of listening to his old shit, and less people show up on his concerts...just last week we saw him calling his 'goon squad' because the crowd threw bottles on him.

          He's losing legitimacy, because he's unmotivated.

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          Too late now...He is a nobody right now.

          If Wayne keeps it up..he'll soon become as irrelevant as Juve, then in 5 years he'll come back crawling to Birdman, but it already be too late for him.
          sure yeah he doesnt have to release albums through universal im pretty sure universal want their cheque though esp if they signed a contract

          Jay-z & wayne have made an agreement to put FWA on TIDAL so that he could make some cash from his situation he is literally NOT ALLOWED to drop music on SPOTIFY OR APPLE MUSIC because it is ILLEGAL for him to do so it is ILLEGAL for him to even drop on TIDAL but he CHOSE to and bear the consequences so he could release NEW MUSIC but since then has come under a lot of LEGAL trouble which is why no new albums have dropped since what dont you understand??


          and yeah other rappers live off MIXTAPES THAT ARE PUT ON SPOTIFY/APPLE MUSIC SO THEY GENERATE INCOME LEGALLY AND FORFIL CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS!!!!

          the reason wayne tours off his old music is because THATS THE ONLY MUSIC HE CAN PERFORM LEGALLY ANY NEW MUSIC HAS NOT BEEN MADE ALLOWED TO BE PERFORMED WHICH IS WHY HE DOESNT PERFORM FWA or Tha Carter 5 singles!!!!!!!!!!!!!1




          #FREEVELVET

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          • #17
            Originally posted by Lil_zimmie View Post
            sure yeah he doesnt have to release albums through universal im pretty sure universal want their cheque though esp if they signed a contract

            Jay-z & wayne have made an agreement to put FWA on TIDAL so that he could make some cash from his situation he is literally NOT ALLOWED to drop music on SPOTIFY OR APPLE MUSIC because it is ILLEGAL for him to do so it is ILLEGAL for him to even drop on TIDAL but he CHOSE to and bear the consequences so he could release NEW MUSIC but since then has come under a lot of LEGAL trouble which is why no new albums have dropped since what dont you understand??


            and yeah other rappers live off MIXTAPES THAT ARE PUT ON SPOTIFY/APPLE MUSIC SO THEY GENERATE INCOME LEGALLY AND FORFIL CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS!!!!

            the reason wayne tours off his old music is because THATS THE ONLY MUSIC HE CAN PERFORM LEGALLY ANY NEW MUSIC HAS NOT BEEN MADE ALLOWED TO BE PERFORMED WHICH IS WHY HE DOESNT PERFORM FWA or Tha Carter 5 singles!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
            Thanks 4 explaining to him, but he probably still don't get it.

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            • #18
              Originally posted by Lil_zimmie View Post
              sure yeah he doesnt have to release albums through universal im pretty sure universal want their cheque though esp if they signed a contract

              Jay-z & wayne have made an agreement to put FWA on TIDAL so that he could make some cash from his situation he is literally NOT ALLOWED to drop music on SPOTIFY OR APPLE MUSIC because it is ILLEGAL for him to do so it is ILLEGAL for him to even drop on TIDAL but he CHOSE to and bear the consequences so he could release NEW MUSIC but since then has come under a lot of LEGAL trouble which is why no new albums have dropped since what dont you understand??


              and yeah other rappers live off MIXTAPES THAT ARE PUT ON SPOTIFY/APPLE MUSIC SO THEY GENERATE INCOME LEGALLY AND FORFIL CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS!!!!

              the reason wayne tours off his old music is because THATS THE ONLY MUSIC HE CAN PERFORM LEGALLY ANY NEW MUSIC HAS NOT BEEN MADE ALLOWED TO BE PERFORMED WHICH IS WHY HE DOESNT PERFORM FWA or Tha Carter 5 singles!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

              All pure bullshit.

              1) Universal can't sue him when he isn't releasing a commercial Album.

              2) Rappers don't make money from mixtapes lol, it's from the fucking tours...these rappers wouldn't be getting a fraction of the money they get if it was just from income off spotify lol.

              3) That last statement is so delusional lmao! Bruh, Birdman owns Wayne's old music too..what bullshit excuse, with that logic Wayne can't perform any type of song at all ..The reason he performs old music, because that's the music people would like to listen to on his concerts. He doesn't have any better music to perform.



              You make it seem like Wayne needs to release a commercial album to be able to make money, and thats the reason he's slacking..but its bullshit..He can release a dope ass mixtape, and perform off that.

              You don't even see Wayne perform any of his FWA songs lol...most recent song would be 'I got no worries!'..shit
              Originally posted by Shake
              Why so negative all the time???

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              • #19
                Nobody is making you listen to him. Stop coming on here and move on if you think he's that bad. You got a choice, nobody forces you to come here or listen to his shit lol

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                Nobody is making you listen to him. Stop coming on here and move on if you think he's that bad. You got a choice, nobody forces you to come here or listen to his shit lol

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                • #20
                  Flex made some points tbh.

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                  • #21
                    Originally posted by Vocker View Post
                    All pure bullshit.

                    1) Universal can't sue him when he isn't releasing a commercial Album.

                    2) Rappers don't make money from mixtapes lol, it's from the fucking tours...these rappers wouldn't be getting a fraction of the money they get if it was just from income off spotify lol.

                    3) That last statement is so delusional lmao! Bruh, Birdman owns Wayne's old music too..what bullshit excuse, with that logic Wayne can't perform any type of song at all ..The reason he performs old music, because that's the music people would like to listen to on his concerts. He doesn't have any better music to perform.



                    You make it seem like Wayne needs to release a commercial album to be able to make money, and thats the reason he's slacking..but its bullshit..He can release a dope ass mixtape, and perform off that.

                    You don't even see Wayne perform any of his FWA songs lol...most recent song would be 'I got no worries!'..shit

                    My main point isnt that He can't make money its the fact the guy has specific contractual obligations to forfil in order to be relieved of his contractual duties

                    1) sure universal can't sue him because he isnt dropping commercial projects on his own accord he is however STILL embedded into the contract for a set period of time and has to forfil his obligations eventually
                    2) yeah rappers definitely dont make all their income off of projects but in order to get your name and brand heard they need to market and push fourth a 'commerical' project in order to gain listeners and potential fans wayne CANNOT do this because of his contractual obligation the last mixtape/album wayne dropped was FWA which as i stated prior came with a whole bunch of legal consequences which means waynes hands ARE TIED

                    3) also yes birdman 'owns' his old music but the contract behind those songs has been forfilled profit generated so the music is free to be used as wanted by the artist because the contractual obligation has been COMPLETED

                    The issue here is WAYNE WANTS TO VOID THE CONTRACT WHICH IS A SLOW PROCESS AS HE HAS SIGND IT SO HE IS STUCK LAWYERS WOULD BE HEAD BUTTING WALLS just tryna wiggle this guy out but it is possible if they exploit a loophole but we dont know the details of his contract only that he needs to drop 4 albums and a group project




                    #FREEVELVET

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                    • #22
                      it's so sad to see Wayne in this type of situation, and he still release music,featured music videos, he's a hardworking rapper!!!. but he'll get over it without us fanz he's nothing so basically the fanbase of Wayne is important to him# fvck birdman. for ripping of Wayne after all these years
                      Last edited by ianahbtune; 05-12-2017, 10:02 PM.
                      "I dont like to STOP, I believe u STOP when you DIE"......

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                      • #23
                        I bet you he does what he can to 100 percent of his capability given the situation he's in he can only do so much unfortunately

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                        • #24
                          Originally posted by Vocker View Post
                          Flex dropping them facts



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                          Stop this bullshit, its all lies.

                          Wayne today isn't the same Wayne a couple of years ago. Ever since he left Cash Money he's been on this "I'm a victim, locked up, can't do anything, FreeWEEZY" mentality, which made him completely unmotivated.

                          You can't call his fans ungrateful, when all the music we been getting is half ass verses, with high pitched autotune and overused punchlines. Can't call them ungrateful when Wayne doesn't care anymore.

                          You got people still saying 'oh nvm, he'll be back'..no, he won't, he lost.

                          back around 2014-2015, he was getting better..but ever since he left CM, he's been stacking L's, only proving Birdman correct: Wayne ain't shit without Cash Money.
                          wayne been dropping so much fire though lately...

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