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    It’s been two decades, nearly exactly, since Lil Wayne first appeared. The year was 1997; the album was Get It How U Live!!, the debut from the Hot Boys. On the cover, he’s expressionless in a white tee and camo, his hair not yet in the flowing dreads that would become his trademark. And he’s foreshadowed, sort of tucked to the side. Understandably so: he was a kid, the formidable crew’s pubescent sidekick. On Get It’s “Block Burner,” his solo showcase, there are no hints of the virtuosity to come — there is no indication that one day, this same kid will provide us with as thrilling a manipulation of the conventions of the English language as we’ll ever see. But there is a spirit, a joy.


    Of all our icons, has any lived as many lives? Curio, best rapper alive, mixtape genius, blockbuster. Now in 2017, at just 34-years-old, he’s an elder statesman. And he’s in limbo. His next album, the long-promised Tha Carter V, is frozen in a bitter contract dispute with Bryan “Birdman” Williams — the man Wayne, at least at one point, considered his father.
    Some of us, perhaps rightly, feel his best work is behind him. Some of us hear last year’s guest spots for Chance and Solange — the rare recent times where, as he himself admits, he was really trying — and can see more greatness yet to come. And as long as we’re waiting to find out, why not look back?


    This week, The FADER turns our attention to Lil Wayne. With an oral history of “Bling Bling,” we dive into his early cultural impact. With an investigation of his relationship with Drake, we examine his extensive work as a mentor. And in interviews with Mannie Fresh and Q93’s Wild Wayne, we chart the exact, singular trajectory of his career. And there’s more: essays, reminiscences, rants. Taken all together, it adds up to a kind of early, scattershot biography. This is The FADER’s Lil Wayne Week.


    Broken up into 7 Parts will post each!

    Part 1- Wayne's Tattoo Artist


    Lil Wayne’s former tattoo artist, Dow Hokoana, has built her life around the motto, “Follow the adventure.” In doing so, the 51-year-old mother of two secured the job of her dreams: professional tattooer to the stars. Though Hokoana, a Bay Area native, started off as an animal control officer in Oregon, she later moved to Miami in 2007 in pursuit of a career as a tattoo artist. Shortly after that, just two years later, she received an unexpected surprise: Lil Wayne’s personal assistant strolled into her shop and offered her a gig as Weezy’s on-call ink artist.
    Over the phone from her tattoo shop in Fort Myers Beach, Florida, Hokoana talked to The FADER about her favorite Wayne tats, the process of tattooing his entire lower body (yes, every inch), and life after Weezy.


    How did Lil Wayne find you?


    A tattoo artist who I had never met named Duel had done a couple tattoos on Wayne and had heard that he was looking to find an artist who could basically sign on, kind of as a full-time deal, to tattoo him until he had a complete body suit. He preferred a female because he was doing a complete body suit. Duel, who had seen my work around South Beach, recommended me.


    Wayne ended up sending his PA into my shop one day and asked if I’d come out to the Hit Factory where Wayne was recording because he wanted to meet me and talk about some tattoos. At first I looked at this guy like, “Yeah right,” at which point he looked at me and went, “Look, Wayne asked for you by name, he’d really like you to come out but if you don’t I am going find someone who will.” That broke it down nicely enough for me, so I called my boys that I worked with and I gave the license plate number of Wayne’s escalade and I said, “If you don’t see me in the morning, call this number in” [laughs]. And that was the beginning of a seven-year relationship. I’ve done approximately 300 tattoos on him.


    Walk me through an average tattoo session with Lil Wayne.


    It really varied. Typically he wants to be tattooed in the night time, so my average time with him was meeting with him around midnight and staying until about 7 a.m. Of course on tour, it’s: do the show, he does his thing, then around 1 a.m. I go to his hotel room.


    He’s the most gracious respectful man I’ve ever worked for. He’s been great to me, and I’m like the odd duck in this crew for sure. I’m an older white woman, old enough to be his mom, who’s definitely not an avid rap listener. But that’s never had any bearing on how he’s treated me. He just wanted someone he could trust, someone who could do the job to his standards, and he’s got a work ethic like a mule for sure.
    What’s something unexpected that you learned about Wayne while working with him?


    Just to find out what an awesome guy he really is. He really does care very deeply about the things he believes impact his life. It was always really a very interesting scene. The clowning that goes on on the bus. Wayne renting out whole bowling alleys so we could have a day off. That was one of his favorite things to do on tour. After so many days, everyone gets a total off day and very often he’d make it a family bowling day.


    He can also be really silly. Once on the bus, one of the guys fell asleep and he poured Tabasco sauce in his mouth. He was like, “Nobody sleeps if I’m awake!” And this was a big guy. Wayne thought he would wake up when he poured it in his mouth but he didn’t even wake up and like an hour later he woke up wiping his mouth yelling, “What is wrong with my mouuuuth?” The list goes on. How you see him is really how he is. He never made me play mindreader.


    What’s the most iconic piece that you did for him, and how did it come about?


    He has a cloud and a lightening bolt on his cheek, up by his temple. One day he’s like, “I want that” and points to my daughter’s book bag and there was this lightening bolt on it. I was like, “You really want that? I’m a custom artist. I can do some cool stuff.” Sometimes he just doesn’t want it to get that deep. Sometimes it’s “just a tattoo.” But sometimes it did mean stuff. The one I liked best is on his hip. It’s one that people hardly see, but it wraps the whole side of his hip. It’s of 10 individual Vegas-style showgirls, some are just the head and headdress, some are full bodied. It’s really cool looking.


    One time he hit me up at like 3:30 in the morning for a tattoo of Andy Warhol’s Campbell’s soup can. I’m like, “Oh okay, you just want me to duplicate this famous piece of art in tattoo form at 3:30 in the morning? Sure boss” [laughs].
    You originally said Wayne brought you on to complete the lower part of his body piece — is it finished? Like, every part of his body?


    Yes, his body suit is complete. In one other article, I wondered if we would ever do all of his body parts and I had made a guess that it would happen in three years. And sure enough, three-and-a-half years later we did every part of his body.


    How did Wayne handle the more, um, sensitive areas?
    Even being a female all you can do is basically hold your own breath while tattooing [that area] because it’s just... [makes a painful crying sound]. I’ve done this for a few clients. I’m sure [Wayne] was in pain, but he took it like a G. For real. It was yeeesh. But it happened. It took about 45 minutes. He’s a G.


    What exactly is the tattoo on his…
    I think that’s something that he would probably would want to speak on himself, if at all, so I’m going to keep that private. However I will tell you that it’s from tip to tail, it’s an image that goes straight across the board. I can tell you that across [Wayne’s] bum is a colorful checker-board. The reasoning behind that is that he wanted to try color but thought it wouldn’t show up or stick to his skin tone and I wanted to prove a point, that using the correct colors and toning even across a darker surface will absolutely show up. So both butt cheeks are black square, colored square, black square, colored square, etc.


    What’s the process of tattooing a male client’s genitals like? Does it have to be… does he have to take Viagra… or…
    Oh boy, this is where it gets awkward [laughs]. Contrary to popular belief, it cannot be hard at all. Basically, my gloved hand is palm up and the head is going to sit right on the palm of my hand and I’m going to put my thumb over it and push it down so that it’s flattened and wide across my hand. One time I had a guy get a little nervous and it was getting a little edgy and *— it doesn’t work inflated *— I’m going to hit that and it’s going to deflate so quickly because of the nerves and sensitivity. You could never do it, no matter how badass you are.


    How has working with Lil Wayne changed your life?
    Wow. Dramatically. He has always supported me. I was basically just another female tattoo artist in South Beach. I did very good solid work, but the level of art that I’ve seen come out of that city floored me. It really was amazing to feel like he chose me.


    It still surprises me, like he’s been in L.A. and said, “Hey, can you get on a flight in about 2 hours,” and I told him, “I could call anybody for you — Kat Von D, anybody will come to your hotel room for what you do for me. And he’s like, “Well I don’t want them.” To feel that level of support and to be able to go on and, no joke, no matter where I go there are people who come and get tattoos from me and say they wanted me before they even really went through my portfolio because I tattooed Lil Wayne. That’s wow. I could never do that on my own.


    Moving forward, what does your future look like with Wayne?
    He’s called me twice since he’s moved to L.A. and I’ve stayed [in Miami]. Nicki, Drake, Twist and those guys moved to L.A. too, so with him being done [with tattoos] most of my work was, “Hey can you come hit up this guy,” like his friends. I’ve done Cee Lo Green, I’ve done a bunch of people through him. I live a very simple, low carbon footprint kind of lifestyle. Needless to say, as much as I love Wayne, he’s kind of the other side of that. I think Fort Myers beach is the perfect spot for me. But I’ll always have love for him. He’s the best.

    This Is The Woman Responsible For 300 Of Lil Wayne?s Tattoos | The FADER


    Part 2- Lil Wayne's New York Period


    Lil Wayne does not like New York. We know this because he has said so in the most undeniable terms possible. It was 2012 — a particularly bad year for Wayne and New York City. Hot 97 DJ Peter Rosenberg claimed that Nicki Minaj was not real hip-hop (the most classic of Old Head New York Rap Arguments), so she canceled her Summer Jam performance in retaliation. Wayne’s response? “Flat out, I don’t like New York.” It came up because of the beef (which, thanks to the internet, had escalated into a way bigger deal than it needed to be), but it was also because, earlier that year, after performing “Uh Ohhh!” with Ja Rule at the Beacon Theater, both rappers got arrested on separate gun charges that would ultimately land Wayne in jail, giving him the chance to sober up and write a prison diary/ pseudo-meditation on what it means to be locked up and famous.


    Hearing Wayne denounce a city he’s not even from and never really lived in shouldn’t have been too big a deal, but this is New York, and New York prides itself on being annoying, brilliant, and difficult. How could Wayne, an annoying, brilliant, and difficult rapper hate the place? The outrage was implied in the coverage:


    Lil Wayne! “Flat Out I don’t Like New York”


    Lil Wayne’s Feelings Toward NY!


    Birdman Seconds Lil Wayne’s ‘I Hate New York Notion’


    Feud Alert! Lil Wayne Bashes New York, Senator Demands Apology


    Was it because he’d already spent a significant amount of time here, recording track after track with Harlem’s forgotten hope Juelz Santana, only to have the project disappear into a mess of red tape and mismanaged expectations? Or was it because he got arrested here?


    Wayne and Juelz could have been a perfect match, and I Can’t Feel My Face was meant to cement them as an iconic rap duo that had the kind of chemistry you could never hope to manufacture. Wayne’s verses folded in on themselves, piling neuroses on top of ego, while Juelz was a battering ram with a perpetual grin. He could threaten to shoot you and make it sound fun.


    The album never actually came out, and was leaked, barely making a splash before the next project with Wayne’s name attached to it came through the pipeline. It’s not the greatest thing either rapper did, but it does have one particularly high moment: a distillation of everything that made the Wayne of 2006 so great. On “Get at These Niggaz” he raps: “What if they armed and what if they ready to shoot?/ We strap up, shut the fuck up, and dippity do/ What we gotta/ Who we gotta/ When we gotta/ It’s murder murder murder murder more murder, don’t think about it.” Wayne’s verse manages to inject pathos into braggadocio and death. When he raps that “don’t think about it” at the end, it’s as if he’s interrupting himself. Murder is not glamorous, and maybe bragging about it serves an entirely different purpose.


    We’ve watched him grow up in the spotlight, but we won’t ever truly know him. He is constantly outrunning himself, his music travels too many unruly paths to trace properly.


    Only Wayne could write such relatable nihilistic exhaustion because the violence of this world is just too much, over a beat that sounds like it was stitched together with a watery guitar sample taken from a 128 kbps mp3 downloaded on Napster in the late ’90s. His threats sound like the harsh reality of grudging acceptance.


    A year or so after the non-release of I Can’t Feel My Face, Lil Wayne popped up on Ja Rule’s “Uh Ohhh!,” a track that sounded like a Timbaland cast-off which was ushered into the world to salvage the public’s waning interest in Ja Rule. It is, nonetheless, a very good track: Ja Rule melds his growl to the stuttered beat, which sounds like a robot on the verge of breaking down, his voice is the show and the spine all at once, but then Wayne comes in:


    “Weezy F is in your building, I will step on your building/ From the steps, of my building, raise hell. Hell’s risen/ Call me young Raekwon, I’m a chef in Hell’s Kitchen/ And flow, sweet as devil’s food, I eat angels for dinner/ Call me what ya want, I don’t give a finger in the middle/ I’mma hold it down and blow up, the anchor is the missile/ When I say we got them brrrrrr! I ain’t trying to whistle/ Longbody Maybach, it make me feel so little/ I’m ballin on the suckers and I won’t pick up my dribble/ Retarded on the beat, I spit hospitals.”


    The video is low-budget, just Ja Rule and Wayne exchanging joyful verses and weird leg kicks on top of what looks like one of those double decker tour buses as it circles New York aimlessly. There’s a timecode at the bottom, as if it’s a rough cut. Maybe it is.


    Wayne is a dense, often subtly personal writer. He says what he feels in interviews, even when it makes him look bad. He is, on some level, emotionally available, just maybe not in the way his fans would like him to be. We’ve watched him grow up in the spotlight, but we won’t ever truly know him. He is constantly outrunning himself, his music travels too many unruly paths to trace properly. In those days when he was roaming around New York, hanging out with Juelz Santana, recording with Ja Rule, or maybe hopping down to Miami to drink Sparks with DJ Khaled and a gaggle of dolphins, it felt like we could pin him down — or at least place him somewhere on the Eastern seaboard — for a few minutes.


    We’re still dealing with the fallout from Wayne’s complete aural ubiquity. All that history buried under piles of digital detritus left to decay behind forgotten MediaFire links and disorganized DatPiff archives. Wayne’s New York songs exist almost entirely in this space, a hazy period that gets harder to retrace every day. They are the sound of what happens when you become unmoored from the place you’re from, and how that can destroy you just before it builds you back up again. This was not quite Wayne’s rebirth moment. It was something better.



    Considering The Importance Of Lil Wayne?s New York Period | The FADER

    Part 3- Quiet Legacy Of Birdman Kissing Lil Wayne

    Before he became associated with rappers in tight pants, hip-hop’s conservative wing was spooked by Lil Wayne. This was in 2006, when, seemingly out of nowhere, a photo of Wayne kissing his mentor Birdman came to light. To me, the image seems as if it belongs in The Metropolitan Museum of Art — a group of men walk swiftly past tall columns and bright palm trees as our two heroes, dressed in all-white, embrace by the hands, as well as the lips. The close distance between them and the surreal background is just perfect enough to make you wonder if the picture is even real at all.
    On October 26, 2006, HipHopDX debuted the photo to the wider world under the headline “Who’s Your Daddy?” Jeff “J-23” Ryce, the site’s former editor-in-chief, wrote the article. Ryce told FADER over email that it was passed on to him by his coworker and the eventual founder of 2DopeBoyz, Shake, who procured it from discrete channels. “Shake got the picture from one of his connections and was quite certain it wasn’t a photoshop job (he was also our graphic designer),” Ryce said. “Beyond that I don't know, and didn't know then either. We didn't ask how he got all this, all that mattered was that he got it.” Shake did not return requests for comment from The FADER.


    The photo’s existence came about five months before Twitter actually got off the ground at South by Southwest in March of 2007. And yet, as Ryce said, the picture became “the overwhelming reference point for any Lil Wayne haters in comments sections, or social media.” But in the grand scheme of their careers, the picture had no real impact — which is utterly surprising, considering the news broke during the end of the ultra-conservative Bush years and the fact that hip-hop has routinely struggled to deal with LGBTQ acceptance.


    But for the two rappers, the photo was just an everyday occurrence — they shared a hello kiss during an episode of Rap City in 2002 and quickly pecked during an on-air interview during an appearance on 106 and Park. Several Cash Money associates have also admitted to kissing Birdman, noting that it wasn’t anything out of the ordinary.
    When asked by New Orleans’s Q93 Radio a week after the photo leaked, Birdman defended the photo with intense gusto. “Before I had a child, Wayne and all of them were my children, you heard me? Wayne to me is my son — my first-born son — and that’s what it do for me. That’s my life, that’s my love and that’s my thing. That’s my lil’ son. I love him to death,” he said.


    When the morning show DJs continued to pry about whether or not he was bothered by haters who were freaked out about the kiss, he rejected the criticism and again likened Wayne to his actual child. “My lil’ son — Lil Bryan gets the same love from me,” Birdman said. “That’s my thing. That’s what I do for my child. I give him my heart, my life and I’ll pump blood for him. I’ll issue some blood for him too. Believe that.”


    The legacy of the photo endures, even as their relationship has had its ups and downs. As Charlamagne Tha God said in 2015, “they will always be known as the couple who kissed on the mouth.” Most recently in 2009, Baby was asked by the BBC about the photo and, as he had in years before, maintained his love for Wayne: “That’s my son, ya heard me. If he was right here, I’d kiss him again.”

    Part 4- Carter Documentary/Wayne's Small World

    Before Lil Wayne angrily dismissed the Black Lives Matter movement in an early November Nightline interview — “I don't feel connected to a damn thing that ain't got nothing to do with me,” he said, “If you do, you crazy as shit” — the rapper was far more diplomatic in his rejection of the civil rights movement. There’s no such thing as racism, he calmly told Skip Bayless of Fox Sports in September, because people of all colors supported him. Whether black celebrities should speak up and support BLM or other anti-racist initiatives is a matter of ongoing discussion. But in a digital world, where mass incarceration is addressed by mainstream musicians at the Grammys, artists dismissing popular social justice initiatives risk serious backlash.


    Watching Wayne’s Nightline interview, I thought back to The Carter documentary directed by Adam Bhala Lough, which was filmed over a six-month period in 2008. Wayne has since disowned the picture and unsuccessfully sued the filmmakers, who have uploaded the entire film online. In one key example of the film’s sensitive treatment of its priceless access to the rapper, the cameras capture the exact moment when Wayne and his team learn that Tha Carter 3 sold a million copies in a week, despite leaking 10 days prior. Featured on many “all-time best” music documentary lists, The Carter is an emotional feat of filmmaking as rare as platinum-in-a-week certification. But it also reveals how entrenched Wayne is in his music — and the toll that takes on his public persona.


    “I’ve been on the road since I was 11 or 12 years of age… It’s nothing to me, it’s easy,” Wayne says before a show in Los Angeles. It’s implied that he’s talking about performing, but for most artists the rigors of the road are bundled with broader obligations of press and promotion. In The Carter, we witness some of this: Wayne in a series of identical swanky hotel rooms, cordial and patient with journalists despite being constantly asked to recount the time he shot himself. “[The] biggest misconception is that I’m some kind of rude… When they meet me they say [expletive] you so humble,” he said in the Nightline interview. And The Carter footage suggests this is true: he tosses an interviewer out just once, not because of something the poor fellow said but because he’s in a sour mood.


    It’s pernicious to frame the rapper as some kind of race traitor; he’s just working with the same self-centered focus that took him out of Hollygrove as a kid and brought him onto a world stage.


    Endearing as the interviews can be, despite resembling alien interrogation sessions, the viewer's perception of Wayne shifts to awe as we watch him record. The Carter offers a glimpse at the rapper's legendary prolific streak of mixtape releases during the the mid aughts. Wayne in musician mode is locked in, focused, masterful. I found the most humanizing moment to be when he was asked about the small black bag he carries with him that contains his mobile studio, which allows him the freedom to record whenever he feels like it. Wayne takes a small, wrapped portion from the bag. “The most important thing of this whole bag,” he said, before revealing the vital piece to be — what else? — the microphone. It’s half a joke, but the mock reverence he holds it with is that of a craftsman lovingly explaining a tool whose reliability has come to resemble an old friend’s, something that looks obvious but contains more layers than most people who use it will ever know.


    “I can’t front, I listen to me all day,” he said, when asked how he scouts artists for his label, Young Money. “Only because I listen to me all day; what I should’ve said, what I didn’t say.” In another scene he tells a reporter that he doesn’t have time for sex. Several times we see Wayne recording by himself, including when he gets the news about Tha Carter 3’s first week sales. This work ethic — or workload he makes for himself — combined with his documented drug use appears to have an isolating effect. He openly expresses that he wished he didn’t have to pay child support for his loving daughter, Reginae. His manager and best friend, Cortez Bryant, nearly quits because of Wayne’s frequent self-medication with codeine (it’s unclear whether or not Wayne still uses the drug). For his entire career, Wayne has been enshrouded in the dark room of his studio. When the curtains occasionally open and the light lets in everything that’s happening in the world, he does what anyone else would do: he averts his eyes.


    Wayne has a long-documented history of apoliticism. In 2011, he told Rolling Stone that he didn’t watch Obama’s 2008 inauguration. In October 2016, he responded “Who’s that?” when asked by The New York Times for his thoughts on Donald Trump. And he only acknowledged Hillary Clinton when she quoted one of songs. As social justice entrenches itself in youth culture, Wayne’s disinterest is compromising his career. But it’s pernicious to frame the rapper as some kind of race traitor; he’s just working with the same self-centered focus that took him out of Hollygrove as a kid and brought him onto a world stage. It’s not that his personality clashes with social consciousness, but to survive and flourish amongst the horrors of his upbringing, he had to keep working with the blinkers up. How can you tell someone with that background he’s wrong to not be connected?

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    Part 5- Bling Bling

    In the early 2000s, an animated MTV spot cheekily illustrated the strange life of “bling bling.” First we see some anonymous rappers on stage, chanting the infamous, irreplaceable phrase; then we see the term wind its way through pro locker rooms and TV interviews and high school hallways until, finally, it shows up at the tea-time table of a white suburban woman and her matronly mother. Pointing at her new earrings, the woman chirps: “Bling bling!”
    Indeed, we long ago murdered “bling bling.” But since its death, our fondness for its source material — the 1999 radio hit of the same name — has only grown. Officially credited to B.G., but widely associated with the entire illustrious Cash Money crew, it both defines an era, and represents its possible high-water mark. On both the track and the indelible video, we got a massive, preposterous, joyous chunk of stunting — a level of stunting we may never see again.
    Thanks to his manifold latter-day successes, “Bling Bling” can at times feel like a footnote in Lil Wayne’s career. But the truth is, “Bling Bling” — and what was, for a time, its all-pervading presence — is elemental to a proper understanding of Wayne. Which is to say: a once-in-a-generation megastar whose very words shape our cultures and our lives.
    As part of FADER’s Lil Wayne Week, we present: the oral history of “Bling Bling.”


    In 1991, the brothers and entrepreneurs Bryan “Birdman” and Ronald “Slim” Williams formed the New Orleans-based Cash Money Records. After enjoying regional success in the mid-90s, the label broke through nationally on the strength of its star, the charismatic Juvenile, and his fellow Hot Boys: B.G., Turk, and the fresh-faced Lil Wayne. By the end of the decade, Cash Money was churning out material at a rapid pace.


    TURK (Cash Money artist): Back then, we were recording like it was a job. We’d get these titles and concepts from Baby — we called him Baby ‘cause back then he wasn’t Birdman yet. He’d come with a list of songs or something. Me and Wayne used to always be together, and he’d just give us songs and tell us to write and we used to just write every day. He always was in the studio, like every day. He’d be like, “Y’all, come to the studio.” Man, we’d drink, we’d eat chicken, we’d shoot dice, and we’d gamble. That’s what we did every day.


    LIL WAYNE (Cash Money artist): “Bling bling, I know/ And did you know I’m the creator of the term?” — “Hollywood Divorce,” Outkast feat. Lil Wayne


    MANNIE FRESH (Cash Money producer): Wayne had already used the word “bling” in a song prior to that but the word had already stuck to me. I don’t know exactly which song, but I know his line was, “Tell me what kinda nigga/ Got diamonds that’ll bling, bling ya.” That was like, damn, that bling word could be something.


    DINO DELVAILLE (Universal A&R): It was either Wayne or Juvie or one of the Hot Boys who [first said “bling bling”]. It was on a Hot Boys album. Every time they talked about their jewelry, their ad libs would be “bling! bling!” in the background. It was just a funny ad lib. It was cute.


    UPTOWN ANGELA (New Orleans Q93 personality and programmer): The first time I heard “bling bling” being said as a phrase was from Bryan Williams. I met him in maybe ‘96 at the radio station and he would always just say it in his every day terminology. Everytime he would talk about jewelry, he would just say “bling bling.”

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    Our budget was limited, those guys might have just brought their friends with cars. They were really proactive in bringing budget value. They were my partners, they helped make that video what it was.


    TURK: Man, to be real, I didn’t even really wanna be in the video because my verse wasn’t in it. But I had to be a team player. In my mind I’m like, Well, at least I’m in the video. We had fun shooting it. The only thing I didn’t like is they were teasing me [about not being on the song anymore]. The whole day of the video shoot, every time it got to Wayne’s part, they’d tease me again.


    RON MOHRHOFF: While Juvenile was performing on the boat, he was gesticulating and really giving a performance and because it was a wide shot on a boat he had to move around a lot. He had a brand-new diamond pinky ring on and it literally flung off while he was performing and it went in the bay. Kerplunk! And, gone. There was this look on his face like, “Oh my God, my $30,000 ring just flew off my hand.” And we were sure it was lost. But one thing about New Orleans back then is that the police were so helpful. If you look at the “We On Fire” video, we had car chases and shit going on at the airport and it was all because the cops were so cool and helpful. It was like, the community was really getting behind their home heroes.


    So this one cop is like, “We’ll find that ring.” And we’re like, “You’re crazy!” A couple days later, this big white heavy-set sheriff shows up and he walks up to Juvenile and he’s got this pinky ring on his pinky. They must have scoured that bay for days. He literally found the frickin' diamond ring! We just couldn’t believe it. And he was just so proud to present it to Juvenile.
    We were so blown away by all those Cash Money Millionaires, especially Lil Wayne at the time: he was really young but he blew all of our minds. He had so much charisma and so much magic and so much presence in his delivery. My AD was like, “Fuck. This guy is a star.”


    DINO DELVAILLE: That song was the one that opened Lil Wayne up. People knew he was hot but everyone was really focused on Juvenile at the time. Juvenile was the one, with “Ha” and “Back That Azz Up.” But that song, that’s the record that broke Wayne.


    “Juvenile was the one, with ‘Ha’ and ‘Back That Azz Up.’ But that song, that’s the record that broke Wayne.” —Dino Delvaille


    UPTOWN ANGELA: Wayne was always the quiet one. B.G., he was laidback, just being in the chill zone. When “Bling Bling” came out, in my opinion, it gave Wayne the confidence to open up and score from there. Me knowing him before the song came out, it’s like one minute he’s sitting on my sofa not saying anything and then the song comes out and you see him hit the stage and do it. You’re like, “Where did this person come from?” To me it kinda gave him that boost to propel himself to what was coming next.


    BIG TIGGER: It took me a moment to appreciate Cash Money. Then when I actually went down there to New Orleans, and I got to know them — Baby, Juvenile, Wayne — I saw everything in a different light. We went to Magnolia, I watched them move around. Then I got to host the Cash Money/Ruff Ryders tour. I remember Wayne used to come out of the floor. It was [singing “The Block Is Hot”] “Boooom boooooom boooom, straight off the black gold.” Wayne’s entrance used to set every arena on fire. Way before it was quote unquote “Wayne.” And it’s fun because even in our conversations along the years, me and Stunna, we like, “Wow, who the hell thought…?” It was interesting to be a fly on the wall and watch his growth, the way he took off and became a household name.


    DINO DELVAILLE: They went on tour and they opened up for the Ruff Ryders and the song would come on and people would go crazy. I remember a specific set we had at Metlife Stadium in Jersey. They came out doing “Bling Bling” in a prop helicopter that flew over the crowd and landed on stage. And I just remember that moment being indescribable, special. It almost brought a tear to my eye because I was like, I remember these guys when we were in the Ninth Ward Projects in New Orleans and now look at this shit. We are in the Tri-state, and this place is packed and these people love this record. Just a few months earlier, no one knew who these guys were. No one outside of Louisiana and some key states down south, then all of a sudden here we are and they’re living out their dreams.

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    BIG TIGGER: It took a long time for New York to warm up to it. It took a looooong time. And me, being from the Bronx, and Rap City — the entire emphasis in my life was lyrics, the bars, the booth. And some of their songs, weren’t the most lyrical. But it wasn’t like they weren’t saying nothing. The cadence was different, the delivery was different. And they were veeeery catchy. You can argue about what you wanna argue about, but if you got hit records and you selling out arenas all over the country, what else is there really to say?
    Its virality was undeniable: the phrase became a cultural touchstone, one still referenced, used, and abused to this very day.


    SLIM: Everybody started saying “Bling Bling.” It was everywhere. It had been blew up. But you know in New Orleans, we talk with slang. It fit right in with everything that we did. We might take a word and re-create something to make it have a meaning.


    B.G. (As told to Rap Reviews): Yeah, it’s in the dictionary, man that shit is crazy. For a nigga like me who comes from nothing, from the hood, and I be going through the airports and shit sometimes… as a matter of fact, a flight attendant the other day said, “I like your bling bling” and I just started laughin’ because shit be funny, she ain't know who I was and I wasn’t gonna tell her who I was, I don’t even wanna be trippin' like that, but shit is crazy.

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    BRYAN “BABY/BIRDMAN” WILLIAMS (As told to Big Boy's Neighborhood): “Bling bling”’for sure [slipped past us]. We was young, and ain’t really know. If so, we woulda been richer. “Bling bling” is definitely something that I wish we [had trademarked]. But I guess, keep goin’ in life and we’ll get where we tryin’ to go.

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    Fader Introduces Weezy Week Part 2

    First part is posted, here is second half

    Part 6- Neighbourhood Fame To International Stardom

    Before he was Lil Wayne, and before he was even Baby D, Dwayne Michael Carter Jr. was the son of a single mother, growing up in New Orleans’s 17th Ward. As a member of the Hot Boys, Wayne put New Orleans — with its gold slugs, oversized white tees, Reeboks, and infamous housing projects — on the map. Even as a bonafide superstar with a legitimate claim to the title of “Best Rapper Alive,” Wayne’s verses were still peppered with references to his childhood, his neighborhood, and his city.


    As a rising DJ and radio personality for New Orleans’s Q93 station in the mid-’90s, Wayne Benjamin, known to his listeners as Wild Wayne, witnessed the rise of Cash Money’s young prodigy. He was the first to break Wayne’s early records to the rest of the country and, in recent years, has been one of the few members of the media to whom Lil Wayne has granted in-depth interviews.


    Wild Wayne recently spoke to The FADER about the formative days of Cash Money, the importance of the Hot Boys, and Lil Wayne’s legacy in the city of New Orleans.


    WILD WAYNE: I started doing radio in ’91, just as a part-time little hustle in college. After doing it just for a couple of days, answering the phones and doing some show production work at the station, my character kind of was born: Wild Wayne. I was in college — I was a hot boy at that time — so it just blew up from there. It was a night show, and we were breaking all of this new music. Not just New Orleans music, but early Rap-A-Lot and Suave House stuff. That’s when a lot of stuff started happening musically in New Orleans.


    The New Orleans rap scene didn’t have much of an identity yet when I first started. Most of the stuff that New Orleans folks were on, in terms of the consumer, was music from outside of the city. There were only a handful of groups at that particular time: New York Incorporated, Sporty T, Warren Mayes, who was one of the first people to get a [record] deal here. Gregory D and Mannie Fresh were a group, and that was Mannie Fresh pre-Cash Money. That was the early days.
    Not long after that, Cash Money started doing their thing. Cash Money already had boots on the ground and were making waves as an independent label. We probably had more labels than anywhere in the country at that time. A lot of them were just overnight successes, one-hit wonders. Cash Money was not the player that they are now with the legendary status, they were one of those labels that was trying to get on. But they had a good formula, and if you know New Orleans music, they were a kind of a fusion: they were gangster and bounce.


    When Cash Money first started, their artists were PxMxWx, Kilo G – Kilo G was their very first artist and their first release. I remember having the wax for that record. I don’t remember who serviced me, but it was Kilo G’s Sleepwalker. That was my very first Cash Money memory. Baby put out a project called Need a Bag of Dope, and they also had U.N.L.V. I was actually living Uptown on 6th and Baronne [in New Orleans’s 3rd Ward] at that time. The house where [U.N.L.V] shot the cover for 6th and Baronne was across the street from where I lived.


    After Kilo G got killed, the label kept pushing, and Juvenile became their big deal. I would talk to Baby — they used to have an office at the start of Tulane Avenue — and he would always tell me about this kid that would leave a rap every day on their voicemail message at the office. They were like, “Man, this kid is really nice.” And that was Wayne, but they didn’t call him Wayne at that time. He was known as Baby D. It was him and B.G. — who went by Lil Doogie — and they had a project called True Story as The B.G.’z. It was a bright turquoise-blue cassette. I'll never forget it. Wayne was just coming off the block then.


    Around that time, Cash Money linked up with a guy named Bobby Marchan. He was a star in the ‘50s and ‘60s, but as the sun set on his musical career, he became a promoter and a booking agent. This is a story nobody ever tells, but he was integral in making them into a business versus just some rap guys. That kind of set them apart from all these other neighborhood corner-store record labels. He was the guy that first started booking them in places around the country, after they had started getting some status. He was booking them in Detroit, booking them in Phoenix, booking them in Little Rock, and all of these places.


    The Hot Boys were revolutionary for the music game, because nobody had ever seen anything like that before. Four dudes from the hood, some of them 13 and 14 [years old], driving cars, landing on shit in helicopters, nobody had seen nothing like that. To this day, I still meet artists that were influenced by them guys. “The Hot Boys made me want to rap,” I’ve heard that so many times over the years, and I’m talking about artists from around the country. Those projects became synonymous with hood lore: Cabrini-Green, Fort Greene. Magnolia and Calliope had that kind of global recognition, which was crazy, us being the murder capital of the world around that time. The recognition was there, heavy, and sometimes for the wrong reasons.

    “The Hot Boys were revolutionary for the music game, because nobody had ever seen anything like that before.”


    When you’re in the city with the same artists, you get a little jaded because you see them so much or you know their story. If you’re from New Orleans, you might have gone to school with them or you might even be related, or know somebody that’s related. People here knew, obviously, that they had arrived, and they had made it. But sometimes I don't think people knew how big they really were. You know, “My mom used to babysit him.” It has a different relevance. But when they started getting some of those big looks — The Basement on BET and stuff like that — I think people started to get it. Seeing them on some of the video award shows with whoever was a rap god at that particular time and not going in suits — Tees and Rees. That was the thing. People were like, “Wow.” Not only did they arrive, but they didn’t sacrifice their style and what they were doing. They were ignorant as shit during that time. They didn’t care, and that was kind of the beauty of it.


    Juvenile had such a big personality, not only his personality but his aura, so everybody else was in his shadow. But it was pretty clear that Wayne had something different, a special kind of thing going on, this magic in a bottle, because his rap was not necessarily like other New Orleans rap at the time, but it wasn’t like the mainstream stuff either. Tha Block Is Hot really cemented him as being that dude. And he was so little, as in short, I think it made him even bigger, in a funny kind of way. He was this little-bitty guy spitting all of this stuff, and I think that was another thing that gravitated people towards him. A lot of times, people root for the underdog. His rhyme flows were different, too. He was doing punchlines before it was in vogue.


    The thing about the Hot Boys that people don’t always realize — and it’s kind of a sad thing right now, for New Orleans music — was there were so many things that were uniquely New Orleans in their raps. You weren’t going to hear some of the things that they were saying anywhere else, by any other artist, ever. Just about the New Orleans experience. And I think the fact that New Orleans is an impoverished city, and the fact that we have a musical heritage beyond rap is a crazy combination, because it gives you not only the sonic quality of music, but it also gives you a different step when you're in these situations. When you’ve got high-crime, high-poverty, high-incarceration and you have a culture as well? That’s a crazy combination that really can’t be duplicated. So they had a lot to draw from, and Wayne was a wordsmith. He definitely had a huge fanbase, and they were on him.


    All of the Cash Money artists would come through Q93 during that time. They had a relationship with the station, and they were cranking out music, so we broke all of those records. The thing was, they were the most consistent. Our program director was on it, and we were at a different place in radio. Whereas radio is more regimented now and has national programming and all of that business, we were able to play music from independent labels. New Orleans music was a problem for the national record companies. We were spinning more New Orleans music than national records for a time. They were pumping millions behind these groups, and we got independents that were getting more play than their artists.


    With most child stars, they go through those growing pains. And he definitely went through that whole thing. When Juvenile left, and Baby put [Lil Wayne] up to doing that 500 Degreez album, it just about killed his career. Juvenile was a god at that time. For Wayne to go at Juvenile — that turned off a lot of the base around the country, but it turned off a lot of New Orleans people, too. He said in an interview I did with him a few years ago that he still had love for Juvenile during that time, and I think it was something that he got pushed into doing. Really, it was more for the label than it was for Wayne, because they wanted to make sure that the world knew that they could still stand on their own without Juvenile. But it backfired, and Wayne didn’t get his legs back under him until The Sqad Up mixtape series started to catch on. Sqad Up was on the front end of the mixtape craze. It didn’t get radio play, but people in New Orleans knew every word to every one of those records.


    You still had a couple naysayers but, at that time, after the Sqad Up tapes and the start of The Carter series, Wayne was god here. Even though they had kind of listened to his music before, now they felt like the hottest rapper in the world is from my block, he's from my area, he’s from my neighborhood, he’s from my city.


    [Hurricane] Katrina really moved everybody out. I stick by the statement that there’s more talent block-for-block in New Orleans than anywhere in the planet, but there’s very little music business happening here to foster growth for artists to help continue to grow the culture, and to grow a business. A lot of times, people will be hung up in this whole thing where, “They've gotta move out of New Orleans, because you won't play 'em on the radio!” No, they have to move out of New Orleans because they’ve stretched their wings as far as they will go here, and now it’s time to develop your brand and bring this unique music to the masses and have some business behind it. So they had to move. They had to get out of here.


    I'm a little disappointed. Not with Wayne, and not with the people of New Orleans. But with how the city of New Orleans has not put Wayne’s accomplishments on the pedestal that it deserves. You always hear them talking about Louis Armstrong and a lot of different people that absolutely were a crucial part of New Orleans music. But you don’t hear them discussing Lil Wayne, and he’s outsold all of them.


    His legacy was the people, especially the people in New Orleans that have held him on their shoulders and have bought every mixtape, read every article, seen every video, and made it a point to be at every show. But those other folks, the system I guess I’ll say, has never championed him. Not even just from a musical standpoint, but the fact that he has remained true. To always talking about New Orleans and the world knowing that's Lil Wayne from New Orleans, to me, is a huge piece. It’s kept eyes on New Orleans and this could be some sort of reciprocated respect for him, and I don’t think that’s happened.




    Part 7- Mannie Looks Back On Wayne

    Lil Wayne didn’t have much of a childhood, and for good reason: he spent most of it cranking out hits. During his preteen years, Wayne’s stepfather introduced him to local New Orleans producer Mannie Fresh after Wayne had showed a serious passion for becoming a rapper. Just three years later, in 1997 at the age of 15, Wayne inked a deal with Cash Money Records. It was during those early days that Fresh remembers Lil Wayne as a “kid genius,” a title he attributes to Wayne’s cutting intellect and clever wordplay.


    Fully solidified as a member of the Cash Money roster, Lil Wayne joined the label’s core group, the Hot Boys, rapping alongside members Juvenile, B.G., and Turk. To his own magnanimous credit, Fresh produced all of the singles and albums for Cash Money artists. Which is to say: he worked closely with Wayne on every piece of music he wrote and recorded during that time. In addition to producing countless chart-topping hits, Fresh also witnessed the growth of a teenage Wayne and helped to foster his emotional and creative evolution.


    In an interview with The FADER, Mannie Fresh spoke about what Wayne was like in the early days before he became a rap icon. He talked about his undeniable brilliance, having to grow up hard and fast as a teenager in New Orleans, and Wayne’s ultimate drive to always try and out-rap anyone on a track.


    MANNIE FRESH: When I first met Wayne he was somewhere around 12 or 13 years old — he wasn't actually getting signed to Cash Money. His parents didn’t want him to rap at all but that was his thing. His dad was this real street-savvy dude that told me, “Bro, I’ll let him rap but as long as he gets his grades up to par.” I think what they had in their minds was, “We’re gonna put some pressure on you and that’s gonna make you not wanna do it.” After our first introduction, I was thinking That's not going to really work for him [Wayne] because it’s obvious that school work is not hard for him. You could tell he was a very intelligent kid. He was a kid genius. It wasn’t nothing for him to do homework. I thought rap was something that Wayne needed to do to channel some of the things that he wasn’t learning in school and some of the things that he wanted to say.


    Before the Hot Boys, the first group that he was in was called The B.G.’z and the members were just B.G. and Wayne. Juvenile wasn’t even signed and Turk was nowhere in sight. The reason why B.G.’s name just became just B.G. was because at first, Wayne’s parents took him out the group because of some outside issues with bad behavior. I guess he must’ve complained so much to his mom and dad that they let him come back six months to a year later. He was officially on Cash Money, he was 15. The deal was, his mom told him he could rap but he couldn’t say curse words. We wondered, “How you goin’ fit in with this shit? This is the street.” Early on, Wayne's genius was that he never cursed but he still got the message across and his verses were just as hard as B.G.’s. B.G. was already street-savvy. The dude knew everything that you could know about breaking down drugs, guns, and all of that. Wayne sort’ve had the understanding of it from being around us but, it was like, So how do you talk about this without using curse words or without saying certain things?


    The first time I heard him rap I thought, This little kid is phenomenal. He did the homework on everything. If we were talking about something, Wayne went and researched it. If we said on the name of a gun was a Serafina, he was a kid who went home, looked it up, and came back and knew everything about it. So when he rapped about it, he knew stuff that we didn’t even know. While we’re saying the raps, it would be a weird moment in the studio where’d he be like, “Oh that gun was made in Germany in 1947 and so and so used it.” If he didn't know it, he’d figure it out so he could talk about it on a record.


    A lot of them [Hot Boys] didn’t know what a rhyme scheme was but Wayne did so he was teaching B.G. some things. He’d be like, “Okay bro, you could actually have the first word rhyme and then at the end of another line you could have another, rhyme. It doesn’t have to go the usual way where the words just rhyme at the end of each sentence.” For him to teach structure, it was just like this dude gonna be something because he's bringing another element to it. So even when the Hot Boys started, some of the hooks were Wayne’s ideas — he set up the pace. Let’s just say it was a Hot Boys song and that day we were supposed to record only Juvenile’s songs. If Juvie didn’t show up, Wayne killed that song. He made everybody wanna rap better. He would be like, “I wish he [Juvenile] don't show up because I'm gon’ kill his verse.” It was that friendly competition and if anybody messed up or something, he was there. He’d be like, “I gotta hook for it. I gotta line for it. I know what to put right there.”


    Say we did a song and Juvie shined on it. The next day, Wayne was like, “I got 12 songs.” That’s what made him have that edge. His thing was like, “Nah, you killed me on that song so I’m coming back the next day with way more songs and I promise that it’s gonna be formatted and I’m going to be ready for it.” He would show up to record and he already knew his raps. They [Hot Boys] all loved this so much. We were averaging at recording at least three or four songs a day everyday no matter what.


    By the age of 17, Wayne was confident. He knew This is what I am, I’m an MC. You had Missy Elliott saying she loved Lil Wayne. Lyrically, he was getting better and better. He arrived as a young kid and then for Missy to acknowledge him, it was like he had made it. Tha Block Is Hot came out when he was 17. The single, “Tha Block Is Hot” was a song that was true to life. Wayne’s from Hollygrove so it was like he went home, looked at the block, and was just like “Man it's real out here. I just wanna write this album from the perspective of, this is Hollygrove, this is my block. It was more of just a reality song, all you had to do was go outside for inspiration. Everything that we did was based on something real. The name Hot Boys was based on a time in New Orleans where if you were really doing something or if the police were looking for you people would be like “He hot. That boy hot.”


    “Wayne is not the average. He is somebody who gave his life to music young.”
    At that time, there was a lot going on in Wayne’s life with everything like him losing his dad young, and not understanding how the streets operate. He realized, “Okay, there’s no love in the streets it don’t matter if you’re a good dude.” It was better for him to put into his music because things were weighing heavy on him. Prior to him recording the song, “Fuck the World,” I remember seeing Wayne drinking. I was like, “Dude what the fuck is going on what are you doing?” He was just like, “I’m stressed I just have a lot going on right now.” I remember this like yesterday — him having a bottle of champagne and drinking it. I was like, “Nobody ain’t gon' tell dude nothing? Y’all just gon’ let him do this shit?”


    I’ve said to him, “Honestly bro, it’s kinda nuts that people don’t get this, but when you don’t really have a childhood some things that happened sometimes is because that’s what went on.” Wayne is not the average. He is somebody who gave his life to music young. So, some of the mistakes that he made or makes sometimes is because he never really had the chance to do shit that kids his age age did. It’s like, he was on tour, he was doing things that he probably shouldn't have been doing. When me and him talk about kids I’m like, “You goin’ make mistakes in life. It all depends on what you do to better your life and better yourself but I get it. I totally get it because if you missed something then all of a sudden the light comes on and you want that.”


    Wayne was just special at a young age and somebody who would observe the room. He wasn’t the loud kid. He used to come in there and look at who was who and who made things shake. He’d find out information on what was being talked about, and come back and kill it.


    I don’t even know if he remembers this but, we had a conversation and Wayne was just like, “I feel like I’m old enough now. I wanna curse. I’d rather not be a hypocrite and be cursing by myself.” I'm asked him, “What’s the idea?” He says “Well, I got this song that I wanna do and it’s kind of heartfelt so it’s gotta be like that.” That’s when he did “Fuck the World,” and I could tell just by the emotions in him that this was real. The way he wrote it wasn’t gimmicky. This was a kid who made more than a lot of adults at the time but they were tryna get him to do adult things. You had other people that were around him that were like, “Well shit, I’m going to exploit you. You’re making money, you’re supposed to take care of us.” Rap was the outlet that he needed because he had so much going on and needed to scream at the world.

    Part 8- Rap's First Millenial Grows Up

    Almost a decade ago, in 2007, I interviewed Dwayne Carter for this magazine during what may have been his most fertile creative period. After years as Cash Money’s Moët-popping underage mascot, The Carter LP and its sequel announced Lil Wayne’s arrival as an adult star. But an unprecedented streak of God-level mixtapes like Dedication II and Da Drought III would soon elevate him to an icon — hip-hop’s dexterous, insatiable id. After declaring himself the Greatest Rapper Alive (a statement the fans and critics of 2006 would uniformly agree with), Wayne bunkered down in the Miami studio where I met him, spending sleepless night after sleepless night crafting The Carter III, a body of work intended to launch him into the rarified airs of the all-time best. The craziest thing is: he stuck the landing.


    Carter III earned a slot on Rolling Stone’s Greatest Albums of All Time and went triple platinum, with over a million of those sales in the first week alone. Wayne didn’t just make a classic, but remade rap in his own image — quite literally, if you count his inky update of Illmatic’s baby photo sleeve aesthetic. “A Milli” turned verbal tics and non sequiturs into a hit single, with hyper snare rolls and atomic 808s fossilizing any traditional notions of song structure. Wayne’s druggy, Auto-Tune gurgle became the default vocal sound of the era that followed. It was a Beatles-on-Sullivan moment that birthed a generation of artists from Future to Chief Keef to Lil Yachty.


    Looking at baby Dwayne — the actual boy on the cover of Hot Boyz’ 1997 album Get It How You Live! — few could have predicted the chain of events that would lead us to Carter III. At the time, I compared its unlikeliness to Macaulay Culkin somehow becoming the greatest actor of his generation. But it’s appropriate a child star would blaze a me-first path only a kid at heart could understand. Wayne created a new paradigm for an internet age, championing first-thought, best-thought frequency and data dumps of content. With every bar, he took rap’s “I’m not like you” individualist streak to a fresh extreme. Jay Z boasted that he never wrote down rhymes; Weezy boasted that he wasn’t a human being.


    Lil Wayne was a new school hero, the early adopter to first recognize genius in everyone from Drake and Nicki Minaj to Lil B and Tyler, the Creator. Yet for all of peak Wayne’s influence, he followed up Carter III with the misunderstood “rock album” Rebirth and a half-decade of hip-hop releases most notable for their diminishing returns (“6 Foot 7 Foot” aside). 2010’s Rikers Island incarceration begat new face tats, lip piercings, and seasons of garish Trukfit “skatewear.” He’s faced drug issues, health issues, and issue issues; Wayne’s Sheen-like 2016 Nightline interview, with its WTF Black Lives Matter disses (“My life matter. Especially to my bitches”) and Blood shout outs, had even his staunchest supporters ready to throw in the red towel.


    The midsection of that “good artist” / “good person” Venn diagram is narrow, though. Chappelle put it best with his “he made Thriller” courtroom sketch, but Wayne’s discography hasn’t moonwalked the same recently. His still-unreleased Carter V, billed as a return to form and possible final album, has been held hostage by multi-year legal battles with Cash Money owner/ father figure Bryan “Baby” Williams. One review of Wayne’s 2015 Tidal-exclusive time-marker FWA (aka the Free Weezy Album) invoked current seasons of The Simpsons, wondering aloud if Wayne has crossed the line where he’s “been ‘okay’ longer than he was great.” It’s a bold, yet not entirely unfounded statement; Young Money inevitably becomes Old Money.


    Wayne doesn’t need to chase the zeitgeist with young guns like Chance, or even show “artistic growth.” He just needs to stave off his own boredom.


    The truth is, longevity is complex stuff. We never got to hear Kurt Cobain take an L, or subject a new Biggie album to the “trash or classic” Twitter roast on release day. If “live fast, die young” is your default setting, there’s going to be some rough years if you decide to stick around. Every new Bob Dylan album sucks a little bit. Neil Young is a Mount Rushmore rock star, but there’s only one Harvest in his catalog. What’s a ten year dry spell in a 30 or 40 year career? What’s a goon to a goblin?


    This past September, Weezy tweeted about packing it in for good. “I AM NOW DEFENSELESS AND mentally DEFEATED & I leave gracefully and thankful,” he wrote. That’s a raw, emotional response to the seemingly endless Carter lawsuits, but not a complete surprise. If Lil Wayne was an NBA player at 34, he’d be mulling a final trade or two before retirement. If Dwayne Carter was a middle school classmate, he’d be clogging your Facebook feed with infant Halloween costumes and declaring “washed” the new clubbing. Jay was the same age that Wayne is now when The Black Album dropped, and it’s easy to imagine Carter V as a similar “grand closing” curtain call. But does it have to be?


    Wayne’s recent guest spots hint at possible outcomes. On Chance The Rapper’s anti-label anthem “No Problems,” he’s the closest thing to an elder statesman, helping coronate Chance as a new great while cribbing Silly Putty bars from his own textbook, rapping: “All these bitches come to do harm/ just bought a new charm/ fuck the watch, I buy a new arm.” He goes deep on Solange’s “Mad” with a reflective blitz of run-on sentences: “It’s hard when you only got fans around/ and no fam around/ and if they are, then their hands are out/ and they pointing fingers/ when I wear this fucking burden on my back like a motherfucking cap and gown.”


    Yet to my ears, Weezy’s clean-up verse on YFN Lucci’s “Key To The Streets” remix is his most exciting in some time. His lines seem simplistic at first, until the rhyme patterns start folding atop one another like origami, flows growing faster and more unruly as the song continues. “I’ma take a power nap/ cause I done got so comfy in the trap, I forgot I rap/ plus I’m on so much shit, my insides feelin’ like a lava lamp/ anybody trip, collar flap/ you better tighten your bottle cap, lil nigga!” The cascade of syllables forces the beat to keep going well after the verse is supposed to end, like a runaway train that somehow keeps laying more and more track in front of itself.


    Lucci’s remix might be the most low-profile look of the three, but that just means the only expectations left for Wayne to defy here are his own. Perhaps that’s why he sounds so energized. Whether his new material hits, bricks, or merely “ehh”s, Wayne will remain a G.O.A.T. — the challenge becomes staying engaged in the moment. I love to quote my friend Max Glazer on his years as Rihanna’s tour DJ: “The third time we were on Ellen, I didn’t even call my mom.” After a while, all success starts to blend together. Multiply that exponentially to superstar level, and you’ll realize how familiarity can breed contempt. In 2017, Wayne doesn’t need to chase the zeitgeist with young guns like Chance, or even show “artistic growth.” He just needs to stave off his own boredom.


    Weezy isn’t one to wax poetic about his process (Miss Katie notwithstanding, he tends to be a standoffish or actively hostile interviewee) but he did offer some hope via a Genius annotation of “Bounce,” from last spring’s quietly awesome Collegrove LP, a collaborative project with actual friend 2 Chainz, a fellow (young) old head who hasn’t forgotten why he loves this shit in the first place: “I kiss ya lady, eat her pussy, then kiss the baby.”


    “I hadn’t heard that bar until the video set, until we actually performing it on the video for the cameras,” the Wayne annotation says. “I fell, like, ‘what?!’ I say some wild shit.” I can’t help but smile as Lil Wayne realizes he still retains the childlike ability to amuse himself with a sex rap. The pressures of Carter follow-ups, music biz mishegas, and birthday after birthday are nowhere to be found. It’s highly unlikely Wayne will ever be the artist of the moment again, or record the “grown folks” record so many other artists of his caliber have set as a milestone. For better or worse, he’s as woke as he was at 16. But as long as he continues to say some wild shit on record, he’ll be ageless.

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    • #3
      Why not just make a second post in your first thread so it follows each other?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Waynasite View Post
        Why not just make a second post in your first thread so it follows each other?
        Wouldn't let me, word cap was 35000 and it was over, I tried, if Danny or wisheezy can merge them that'd be great

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        • #5
          super long read but very interesting to say the least.

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          • #6
            so i am curious to know what wayne has tattooed on his dick

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            • #7
              i saw the mannie story on the blog and its a good read

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              • #8
                It's too long

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shake View Post
                  It's too long
                  It's worth reading

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                  • #10
                    So he wasn't lying when he said he had a sign on his dick saying bad bitches only


                    ''They say they want the drugs to stop but imma major setback when my album drop''

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                    • #11
                      breaking news:- wayne has a checkers board tattooed on his booty

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                      • #12
                        there's some good stuff and a lot of nonsense in the articles......

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