Willy Wonka

[Twiggz]

Re: Willy Wonka

IGot5onit----so you mean to tell me even though lollipop and a milli and got money (I'm just using these as examples, im sure theres more, by all means these are NOT my favorite songs...) weren't CIII worthy because they as well had no substance to them. A lot Wayne's songs are like that, lets face it. The only album that had a GREAT deal of substance and meaningful lyrics was Rebirth for the most part.....so if you're basing your arguement over substance, then technically half of waynes shit on his albums "shouldn't be album-worthy"

i mean c1 and c2 had substance in my opinion and I hope wayne chooses better songs than he did on c3 for c4.. not trying to start an argument or nothing. im just really sad in the direction wayne is going with this new flow and voice i wish rebirth never existed and he just focused on his rapping and trying to perfect it.

No offence, but you do know wayne didnt pick the songs for C3 right ?

Rebirth is GREAT, wayne got personal and introspective on that album.

His flow now is the best its been since Drought 3.. maybe better cuz now its very clear. Carter 4 is gona be phenomenal.

WHAT?? Rebirth was GREAT?
Rebirth, in all honesty, was shit. Only about three songs i loved, and one was a bonus.
Wayne's flow never left him. He still has it in him. The past couple months have been real hard on him. You seen how tired he was during interviews? He's doing it for US, people. So quick arguing and bickering, and take what you get. Wayne will take over 2010-2011 when C4 arrives, and he wont stop.

[DJBMURDER]

Re: Willy Wonka

IGot5onit, fuck ya id love to hear that old flow, but times change, people change, and flows change...I mean shit, id kill to get an Em track that was ripped up like one of his tracks on SSLP or the MMLP but he changed too....got off drugs...changed is style/flow up...I think we all have to understand that Wayne probably wont even have that flow...like when "We gon Get Paid" dropped, that song was fire...i dont know how somone kept it unreleased for so long...it had to be AGES old...but we will never see him flow like that again...i mean shit his voice even has changed so much that it makes a huge difference too..I wasnt tryna be an asshole or anything man, im just saying...

[superman2]

Re: Willy Wonka

IGot5onit----so you mean to tell me even though lollipop and a milli and got money (I'm just using these as examples, im sure theres more, by all means these are NOT my favorite songs...) weren't CIII worthy because they as well had no substance to them. A lot Wayne's songs are like that, lets face it. The only album that had a GREAT deal of substance and meaningful lyrics was Rebirth for the most part.....so if you're basing your arguement over substance, then technically half of waynes shit on his albums "shouldn't be album-worthy"

No, a Wayne album cut will NOT start off with another rapper going first. Even if the subject matter is similar..album cuts are more personal, specific, and crafted better.

Is it so hard to get ?


ON TOPIC: Wayne's verse is absolutely nasty

Co sign man......His album songs actually have structure...and some thought...his raps on this is just all over the place......damn sick to a subject.....thats the problem with WAYM....most of the songs werent about shit...and if they were the verses were way off...

thats what i was trying to say. just didnt know how to explain it i feel like hes just mass producing these verses without any structure or passion behind it. like hes just trying to think of cool shit to say.. DJBMURDER ur telling me that you wouldn't rather listen to that old flow wayne has for example in pom pom (ur favorite song)

Cmon man..you talking bullshit and you know it.

There's a difference between a mixtape verse and album verse. He plays around on mixtapes and is personal on albums. "pom pom" was supposed to be on C3 and on C3 he spit with passion on MANY tracks. Stop hatin.

[iGot5onit]

Re: Willy Wonka

IGot5onit----so you mean to tell me even though lollipop and a milli and got money (I'm just using these as examples, im sure theres more, by all means these are NOT my favorite songs...) weren't CIII worthy because they as well had no substance to them. A lot Wayne's songs are like that, lets face it. The only album that had a GREAT deal of substance and meaningful lyrics was Rebirth for the most part.....so if you're basing your arguement over substance, then technically half of waynes shit on his albums "shouldn't be album-worthy"

i mean c1 and c2 had substance in my opinion and I hope wayne chooses better songs than he did on c3 for c4.. not trying to start an argument or nothing. im just really sad in the direction wayne is going with this new flow and voice i wish rebirth never existed and he just focused on his rapping and trying to perfect it.

No offence, but you do know wayne didnt pick the songs for C3 right ?

Rebirth is GREAT, wayne got personal and introspective on that album.

His flow now is the best its been since Drought 3.. maybe better cuz now its very clear. Carter 4 is gona be phenomenal.

carter 4 hopefully will be phenomenal but i hope he isnt doing this A and B flow hope its more like his drought 3, dedication 2, or c2 flow or even something better than that. not what he's currently doing.

[superman2]

Re: Willy Wonka

whoever said "is it so hard to get"....quit assuming, I never stated that I thought it was goin to be on CIV at any time....i said it was CIV worthy, meaning the song and the way it was put together was better than your average mixtape...they even shot a vid...FOR A GUDDA GUDDA MIXTAPE. so case and point, IN MY OPINION this song IS CIV worthy EVEN THOUGH GUDDA started off. I have the right to my own opinion, I never thought or suggested that this was a CIV track, it was speculated, but Im pretty sure everyone knew deep down it was a B2G track because Wayne is keeping CIV shit top secret, he wouldn't even let ppl take pics while he filmed for a vid of it....

I respect that.

Once again people, albums are serious and personal. On mixtapes is where he can have 'no ceilings' and just go.

SOme people prefer "mixtape weezy", some like both. Some only like album weezy. Its all Wayne, stop tryna split the guy in 3 lol.

[DJBMURDER]

Re: Willy Wonka

Who's hatin superman2?
nvm, i was on my DROID thats why i was not only typing shitty but just now got the response. ya wayne def is dif on mixtapes versus albums, sometimes i can just tell even if its a feature that he wanted that verse on CIV or something of his personally...the mans soo fuckin in demand on EVERYONES track he hardly gets time to work on his own shit...hahah

[superman2]

Re: Willy Wonka

IGot5onit----so you mean to tell me even though lollipop and a milli and got money (I'm just using these as examples, im sure theres more, by all means these are NOT my favorite songs...) weren't CIII worthy because they as well had no substance to them. A lot Wayne's songs are like that, lets face it. The only album that had a GREAT deal of substance and meaningful lyrics was Rebirth for the most part.....so if you're basing your arguement over substance, then technically half of waynes shit on his albums "shouldn't be album-worthy"

i mean c1 and c2 had substance in my opinion and I hope wayne chooses better songs than he did on c3 for c4.. not trying to start an argument or nothing. im just really sad in the direction wayne is going with this new flow and voice i wish rebirth never existed and he just focused on his rapping and trying to perfect it.

No offence, but you do know wayne didnt pick the songs for C3 right ?

Rebirth is GREAT, wayne got personal and introspective on that album.

His flow now is the best its been since Drought 3.. maybe better cuz now its very clear. Carter 4 is gona be phenomenal.

carter 4 hopefully will be phenomenal but i hope he isnt doing this A and B flow hope its more like his drought 3, dedication 2, or c2 flow or even something better than that. not what he's currently doing.

"Im so mothafukkin high i can eat a star" - Drought 3. Thats not exactly the bets flow ever..

What he's currently doing on tracks like Inkredible, Drip and this one is amazing.. and dont know what you're listenin to. Nobody knows what C4 is gona sound like, but from these random features..I'd be scared of I was a rapper.

[superman2]

Re: Willy Wonka

Who's hatin superman2?

I woulda quoted you if i was talking to u lol

[delejayn]

Re: Willy Wonka

IGot5onit, fuck ya id love to hear that old flow, but times change, people change, and flows change...I mean shit, id kill to get an Em track that was ripped up like one of his tracks on SSLP or the MMLP but he changed too....got off drugs...changed is style/flow up...I think we all have to understand that Wayne probably wont even have that flow...like when "We gon Get Paid" dropped, that song was fire...i dont know how somone kept it unreleased for so long...it had to be AGES old...but we will never see him flow like that again...i mean shit his voice even has changed so much that it makes a huge difference too..I wasnt tryna be an asshole or anything man, im just saying...

Respect that brederen....I hear what you saying...but its a shame man....Wayne still a beast but man if we could get that nigga back that use to spit real shit along with punchline instead of punchline after punchline.....

remember...this verse....

Fucking right alright....
im flyer than a falcon at a dog fight..ha
oooh boyyy...she say that all night
and I like to eat pussy so respect my appetite
i gotta a rapper appetite
i am a beast grrrrr i attack the mic
you niggas couldnt see me with satellite
im colder that a parrot ice
i shoot twice like a pair of dice
and take your wife to paradise
and cuss her out like andrew dice
clay...i don't play
no way jose
im not an oakland A....
Im OK but i replace tha O with an A
47 I say....24 7 i stay ready for whatever that may
or might happen..
i turn your car into a casket
im in this bitch like yeah bitch.......

[DJBMURDER]

Re: Willy Wonka

superman2 i think you're the only other fuckin person on this forum on the same page with me right now, thank you. whoever thought drip and i dont like the look aka willy wonka weren't fucking inKredible (pun intended) needs to listen again, and i couldn't agree more with you on that upgrade you line, probably his worst line of all time! hahaha i mean shit all of his FEATURES have been rippin lately...veterans day, drip, willy wonka....in the city, loyalty....you get the point they've all be on fire!

[iGot5onit]

Re: Willy Wonka

IGot5onit----so you mean to tell me even though lollipop and a milli and got money (I'm just using these as examples, im sure theres more, by all means these are NOT my favorite songs...) weren't CIII worthy because they as well had no substance to them. A lot Wayne's songs are like that, lets face it. The only album that had a GREAT deal of substance and meaningful lyrics was Rebirth for the most part.....so if you're basing your arguement over substance, then technically half of waynes shit on his albums "shouldn't be album-worthy"

i mean c1 and c2 had substance in my opinion and I hope wayne chooses better songs than he did on c3 for c4.. not trying to start an argument or nothing. im just really sad in the direction wayne is going with this new flow and voice i wish rebirth never existed and he just focused on his rapping and trying to perfect it.

No offence, but you do know wayne didnt pick the songs for C3 right ?

Rebirth is GREAT, wayne got personal and introspective on that album.

His flow now is the best its been since Drought 3.. maybe better cuz now its very clear. Carter 4 is gona be phenomenal.

carter 4 hopefully will be phenomenal but i hope he isnt doing this A and B flow hope its more like his drought 3, dedication 2, or c2 flow or even something better than that. not what he's currently doing.

"Im so mothafukkin high i can eat a star" - Drought 3. Thats not exactly the bets flow ever..

What he's currently doing on tracks like Inkredible, Drip and this one is amazing.. and dont know what you're listenin to. Nobody knows what C4 is gona sound like, but from these random features..I'd be scared of I was a rapper.

u cant base his flow on one line overall dd3 was just a better mixtape than no ceilings imo. it just sounded better, but even wayne said he wasnt trying so hard on no ceilings so im guessing hes just saving his good shit for c4

[superman2]

Re: Willy Wonka

superman2 i think you're the only other fuckin person on this forum on the same page with me right now, thank you. whoever thought drip and i dont like the look aka willy wonka weren't fucking inKredible (pun intended) needs to listen again, and i couldn't agree more with you on that upgrade you line, probably his worst line of all time! hahaha i mean shit all of his FEATURES have been rippin lately...veterans day, drip, willy wonka....in the city, loyalty....you get the point they've all be on fire!

THANK YOU ! lol

These wayne "fans" either are not listening or smoking stronger weed than wayne himself . I personally started doubting wayne last year but this year or specifically after No Ceilings, he's been on a mission to murder every beat he's on and its inkredible lol