Tbh none of the singles, even Gotti, are imo worthy of being C5. They just look rushed. Like Waynes just taking anybeat and jumping on it with out any clear direction. Gotti had a theme, sure, but it wasn't on the level of a Dr. Carter or something like that. Most tracks on C3 and C4 sound like they were well thought out. Im not feeling that for any of waynes tracks this year. Theyre just songs i can listen to for a few weeks cuz thats the only new material out...but most of us are still listening to C3 and C2 and Go DJ, Fireman, etc, even after all these years. I dont think anyone is gonna listen to "Take Kare" or "Believe Me" 5 years from now on. If you look at GKMD, there was a theme to not just each individual song, but to the whole album itself. As a result, it was prob the best album that year. And as for sales, Wayne needs a club superhit like Lollipop or Got Money or How to Love. And tbh, waynes not at that level right now, i have to admit, where people are gonna listen to him even if he has a track with a Chief Keef-like verse. He needs a superstar, justin bieber, bruno, someone like that to make a single before C5. I honestly dont think Mirror would have 300,000,000 views on youtube if Bruno wasnt in it. So for publicity, i think he needs a song like that that can reach out to a much wider audience rather than to just hiphopheads
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Originally posted by PatsMK12 View PostTbh none of the singles, even Gotti, are imo worthy of being C5. They just look rushed. Like Waynes just taking anybeat and jumping on it with out any clear direction. Gotti had a theme, sure, but it wasn't on the level of a Dr. Carter or something like that. Most tracks on C3 and C4 sound like they were well thought out. Im not feeling that for any of waynes tracks this year. Theyre just songs i can listen to for a few weeks cuz thats the only new material out...but most of us are still listening to C3 and C2 and Go DJ, Fireman, etc, even after all these years. I dont think anyone is gonna listen to "Take Kare" or "Believe Me" 5 years from now on. If you look at GKMD, there was a theme to not just each individual song, but to the whole album itself. As a result, it was prob the best album that year. And as for sales, Wayne needs a club superhit like Lollipop or Got Money or How to Love. And tbh, waynes not at that level right now, i have to admit, where people are gonna listen to him even if he has a track with a Chief Keef-like verse. He needs a superstar, justin bieber, bruno, someone like that to make a single before C5. I honestly dont think Mirror would have 300,000,000 views on youtube if Bruno wasnt in it. So for publicity, i think he needs a song like that that can reach out to a much wider audience rather than to just hiphopheadsI could sell Sweet and Low to Sugar Ray Leonard!!!
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Originally posted by PatsMK12 View PostTbh none of the singles, even Gotti, are imo worthy of being C5. They just look rushed. Like Waynes just taking anybeat and jumping on it with out any clear direction. Gotti had a theme, sure, but it wasn't on the level of a Dr. Carter or something like that. Most tracks on C3 and C4 sound like they were well thought out. Im not feeling that for any of waynes tracks this year. Theyre just songs i can listen to for a few weeks cuz thats the only new material out...but most of us are still listening to C3 and C2 and Go DJ, Fireman, etc, even after all these years. I dont think anyone is gonna listen to "Take Kare" or "Believe Me" 5 years from now on. If you look at GKMD, there was a theme to not just each individual song, but to the whole album itself. As a result, it was prob the best album that year. And as for sales, Wayne needs a club superhit like Lollipop or Got Money or How to Love. And tbh, waynes not at that level right now, i have to admit, where people are gonna listen to him even if he has a track with a Chief Keef-like verse. He needs a superstar, justin bieber, bruno, someone like that to make a single before C5. I honestly dont think Mirror would have 300,000,000 views on youtube if Bruno wasnt in it. So for publicity, i think he needs a song like that that can reach out to a much wider audience rather than to just hiphopheadsrepetition is the father of learning
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Originally posted by KnockMeOut View PostAnybody that even comes close to suggesting that Lil Wayne "needs" a child like Justin beiber deserves a crucifixion tbh.
Have you forgotten who this is? Ffs
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People who didnt even know who Wayne was listened to Mirror simply because Bruno was on it, and it spread to large numbers of people. Is that not beneficial for sales?
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Originally posted by PatsMK12 View PostWhat im saying is that if wayne was on a track with someone with the popularity of JB (and i didnt just say justin beiber)...then that song would be a superhit even if it sucks. And i was saying that from a business perspective. Songs like that would reach out to a broader audience. Do I want Wayne and Justin bieber together? Hell no. But, given Wayne's demise recently in terms of popularity/reputation, all of america just wont buy his album anymore, UNLESS, he does a mainstream hit with someone like that.
I didn't buy or listen to IANAHB2 until months after it came out and I'm a massive Wayne fan. It's only when I heard about C5 that I started coming back on these forums and shit.
I don't get why people on here keep speaking as if Wayne isn't a huge fucking superstar, and a star maker at that.
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