[OFFICIAL] Tha Carter V Discussion Thread

[Zodiac!]

no idea who kafka is but ok

worldwide known author who wanted his novels and stories to be destroyed before they got published when he died early. Hid closest friend who was tasked to do so, decided to release his catalogue and here we are. Sometimes an artist doesn't feel their art and don't realize it's brilliant.

[Settaz]

thats fine i like that you have a respectable approach to disagreeing boils down to how much you value the music and how much you value ur money i dont care to hear the "moral" aspect to this because we all have paid countless amounts of hours and time and money on weezy directly we are all die hard fans not just some people in it for trading and stealing and shit we dont even want to leak but sometimes it has to happen its just the way the eco system works id explain it but im not sure youd even care much to hear bout it we know people in this culture who have really great wayne songs who dont even giv ea fck bout wayne lol they just keep it to have something over other people we fans who just appreciate the art and as they say money talks



man pay up or shut up real talk





How about you stop paying thieves for music they had no part in creating. Wayne used to and still does occasionally gives out music to DJs for free you’ll get the music he wants to put out. Like he would’ve done with C3 had most of it not leaked.

if leaks didnt happen so much music would never be heard lol we are collectors we value art we collect the art u can argue and be an incel all you like reality is we all die hard fans we paid heaps to weezy in the form of merch, tickets and albums and streams and most of all our time

just because we buy and collect music on the low means nothing we are keeping this stored for a rainy day we all hard working people if you hate leaks so much simply dont listen to them reality is most of C3 sessions would never be heard with no leaks there is songs from C3 that are still not heard to this fckin day thats just the reality of the music industry leaks arent devastating no one loses only producers are the ones i feel sad for because its very hard to get placement with big rappers but even with those guys its not guarantee there music will ever drop in the first place so its stupid to assume the worst from leaks

its not like we taking food outta starving kids mouths our impact is a drop in a very big and vast ocean but yeah dont listen to leaks is all i gotta say if it dont align with ur psychology u can listen to the pre determined music that mack maine or cortez outlines for you

wayne makes 100s of songs a day also mind you he 90% probably dont even remember the songs lol[/QUOTE]

None of what you said justifies anything though. I don’t think you get that an artist doesn’t owe his or her fans anything, you don’t get decide what music comes out he does. Saying “Oh, without leaks we wouldn’t hear a lot of these songs”... So? It’s not up to you to decide that. We never got official releases for a lot of great songs that would have been released if not for C3 sessions too. So you can complain about how some of them you’d never have heard, but you don’t know that. What we do know is those leaks fucked up the original C3 and Wayne wasn’t happy about them.

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Tbh the part that upsets me the most with leaks is fans paying thieves for music they didn’t create. Listening to leaks doesn’t help those thieves. But putting money in their pocket is something that should never happen. Also, if leaks effect a release like they did C3 kind of upsets me because we didn’t get the original product that was intended. Even if a lot of people don’t hear the leaks, when the creator sees it’s been leaked they don’t want to officially release it anymore. Alex Tumay has said this about plenty of Thug’s songs that have been leaked that were really good songs that most of the general public will never hear because of leaks.

Artists used to, not so sure about now leak stuff intentionally and Wayne in particular has given out a lot of free music. I just don’t get the intentions behind paying some thief for music that’s not theirs.

[when_it_snow_im_on_top]

Do y'all think Tha Carter V will go double Platinum? I hope it does to solidify the series.

Tha Carter - 2x Platinum
Tha Carter II - 2x Platinum
Tha Carter III - 5x Platinum
Tha Carter IV - 2x Platinum
Tha Carter V - 1x Platinum

I don't know why no one is paying to get these certified in the RIAA system

[Mnjaro]

Do y'all think Tha Carter V will go double Platinum? I hope it does to solidify the series.

Tha Carter - 2x Platinum
Tha Carter II - 2x Platinum
Tha Carter III - 5x Platinum
Tha Carter IV - 2x Platinum
Tha Carter V - 1x Platinum

I don't know why no one is paying to get these certified in the RIAA system

don't think so tbh, not for a whileeee anyway, and thought C4 would have been more than 2x only interesting

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None of what you said justifies anything though. I don’t think you get that an artist doesn’t owe his or her fans anything, you don’t get decide what music comes out he does. Saying “Oh, without leaks we wouldn’t hear a lot of these songs”... So? It’s not up to you to decide that. We never got official releases for a lot of great songs that would have been released if not for C3 sessions too. So you can complain about how some of them you’d never have heard, but you don’t know that. What we do know is those leaks fucked up the original C3 and Wayne wasn’t happy about them.

we also know that those leaks helped him gain a shit ton of fans and helped make C3 as big and legendary as it was and gave wayne his superstar status, there are pros and cons to leaks.

[ym9191]

don't think so tbh, not for a whileeee anyway, and thought C4 would have been more than 2x only interesting

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we also know that those leaks helped him gain a shit ton of fans and helped make C3 as big and legendary as it was and gave wayne his superstar status, there are pros and cons to leaks.

One night only should've Def been on c3 leaked or not

[Mnjaro]

One night only should've Def been on c3 leaked or not

[when_it_snow_im_on_top]

don't think so tbh, not for a whileeee anyway, and thought C4 would have been more than 2x only interesting
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It is possible Tha Carter IV is higher but I haven't seen anything on it.

[Settaz]

don't think so tbh, not for a whileeee anyway, and thought C4 would have been more than 2x only interesting

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we also know that those leaks helped him gain a shit ton of fans and helped make C3 as big and legendary as it was and gave wayne his superstar status, there are pros and cons to leaks.

Wayne's team hasn't updated any of his albums to go with the new streaming rules, so it's probably more than 2x plat at this point. Just off singles it adds another mil making it at least 3x platinum.

Idk what's up with his team they haven't officially certified C5 or any of the singles from it either.


As for the leaks, they did help with sells but lowered the quality. I don't think that's an appropriate trade off if you're a fan of the artist. Wayne would've done big numbers regardless and was gaining momentum from his tapes.

[Mnjaro]

Wayne's team hasn't updated any of his albums to go with the new streaming rules, so it's probably more than 2x plat at this point. Just off singles it adds another mil making it at least 3x platinum.

Idk what's up with his team they haven't officially certified C5 or any of the singles from it either.


As for the leaks, they did help with sells but lowered the quality. I don't think that's an appropriate trade off if you're a fan of the artist. Wayne would've done big numbers regardless and was gaining momentum from his tapes.

i thought someone posted a photo of the CV plaque with platinum on it, and people were wondering why the cash money logo was on it i swear its somewhere.

and again depends on how you see it, little dip in quality sure (more a subjective measure but i know what you're saying in regards to the C3 sessions), but more sales means more money off sales and singles, more exposure to the masses which leads to more ticket sales if you go on tour for the album, again leaks are a double edged sword, good and bad, but I don't think you're wrong at all it's your opinion and i respect it

[Settaz]

i thought someone posted a photo of the CV plaque with platinum on it, and people were wondering why the cash money logo was on it i swear its somewhere.

and again depends on how you see it, little dip in quality sure (more a subjective measure but i know what you're saying in regards to the C3 sessions), but more sales means more money off sales and singles, more exposure to the masses which leads to more ticket sales if you go on tour for the album, again leaks are a double edged sword, good and bad, but I don't think you're wrong at all it's your opinion and i respect it

That plaque is fake. You can see if it's officially certified on the RIAA website.

[Mnjaro]

That plaque is fake. You can see if it's officially certified on the RIAA website.

ahh fair enough thank you for clarifying

[when_it_snow_im_on_top]

Wayne's team hasn't updated any of his albums to go with the new streaming rules, so it's probably more than 2x plat at this point. Just off singles it adds another mil making it at least 3x platinum.
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They need to update his shit now that he is free the last update certification was believe me.....