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Disclaimer: These contain theories, so don't quote this thread as fact. Some of it is fact, some is theories based on facts.
With all this Wayne shit going on right now I though it would be good to finally highlight the criminal activity behind Cash Money and specifically Bryan "Baby/Birdman/Beatrice/Stunna" Williams. I would also point out that this is entirely researched based, I was never aware of this stuff, nor am I old enough for this to really occur during my time.
I am only going to highlight their criminal behaviour, I will try to not give too much of a history lesson.
Cash Money started off as a independent label back in 1991. They named their label after The Cash Money Brothers from New Jack City, interestingly enough, the apartment complex in the movie is called The Carter.
CM, before Universal bought them out for $30 million, was originally funded by Baby and Slim's half brother Terrence Williams, who is now serving a life sentece in jail for being a heroin kingpin and conspiracy to commit murder.
Cash Money Records Co-Founder Terrance 'Gangsta' Williams Snitched For Lesser Sentence!!!
Terrence was part of a dope dealing group called the Hot Boys, all other members of that group have been murdered. It's also good to note that Baby's first album was under B32 and called "I Need a Bag of Dope". Here's an entire song about doing heroin from the album.
Murders of Artists on The Label, Murders Committed by Artists on Label, and Associated Deaths with Cash Money
- After several releases on CM, Pimp Daddy is murdered in 1994 after his final release on his contract
- Kilo G is shot and killed in 1997, 2 years after his final release in 1995
- Yella Boy was rumored to have killed Mystikal's sister back in 1997 (Mystikal made a song called Murderer directed towards Yella Boy shortly after her death). Keep in mind this was during Cash Money's and No Limit's beef (Mystikal was No Limit back then). Baby is rumored to have ordered the hit and has bragged about it on songs back then.
- Yella Boy (from UNLV) is murdered in 1997 after his final release with Cash Money on his contract in 1996. He is rumored to have run up on Baby and Slim with a strap asking for unpaid royalties and shot up Baby's truck.
- Lil Elt shoots and kills a man named Colon Cains, Terrence snitches on him later in 2008, but Lil Elt is found not guilty by New Orleans 60 Day murder rule. Baby is rumored to have ordered the hit. Terrence would only know about this murder through his dealings with Cash Money.
- Shortly after collaborating with former Cash Money artist Juvenile in 2003 and producing a #1 hit record, Soulja Slim is found murdered in the 9th ward. A suspect named Garelle Smith is found and charged, but no witnesses are found and charges are later dropped. Smith is later murdered in 2011 (it is noted that the 60 Day Rule was banished around this time frame). This is probably unrelated to Cash Money, I'd just thought I should put it in.
-Lil Derrick/Bulletproof (a former Hotboy with Wayne, BG, Turk, and Juve) left the label early on, even before the Hotboys ever released any albums. It is good to note that Lil Derrick is Baby and Slim's nephew. In 2003, he releases a joint album with Kayotic under Undisputed records. The album has several features from former Cash Money artists Turk and BG, and has a large buzz in New Orleans. Soon after, Lil Derrick and the CEO of Undisputed records are murdered.
- Magnolia Shorty, a former Cash Money artist is found shot and killed in 2010, her boyfriend is found dead months later.
Heroin Dependancy
Both Turk and BG were addicted to heroin in the 90's. BG, Turk, and Wayne were all signed at extremely young ages by Baby (13, I think 14, and 11) before they even made a name for themselves. It is rumored that Wayne snorted heroin too in the 90's.
Here he talks about snorting stuff that's white. He has no clue what drug it is, he says he just did it.
Check 4:53
Allthough never confirmed by any members of the group, it is very well possible that Baby was supplying the heroin from his half-brother. Baby has admitted that the last time he touched a K was in 04.
Turk Revisits Birdman's "Ruthless" Business; Compares Heroin Battle To Ray Charles' | Rappers Talk Hip Hop Beef & Old School Hip Hop | HipHopDX
Molestation Allegations and Overall Suspect Behaviour
Wayne, Turk, and BG have all admitted to openly kissing Baby on the mouth, several times then they were young. There are tons of pictures and videos online showing this.
Wayne has also publicly stated that when he was young that Baby forced prostitutes to fuck him/ give him dome. Wayne was also raped at 11 years old.
Earlier this year Lil Chuckee created a stir when reports came out that he was molested by Birdman when he first signed, although later the statement was told to be false.
Bryan "Birdman" Williams Charged With Molesting Underage Rapper?
Now I think that the heroin use, the molestation allegations, and Baby signing these young artists all the time with relatively no names have a huge connection. You only do heroin if you are seriously fucked in the head from something or someone. My theory is that Wayne, BG, and Turk all started doing heroin in the 90's because they were all molested by Birdman. Juvenile never did heroin, but he had a name outside of CM when he was signed and he was a lot older than the other three artists at the time too.
I can list all the artists leaving Cash Money over money/promo issues, but it's basically their entire roster from day one. I don't think there was ever an artist on Cash Money that didn't have issues like that with Baby and Slim.
The point is that Cash Money management, especially Baby, is corrupted and evil as fuck. Wayne should have left back in 04 when he had the chance and Baby should have been put away for the first murder that he ordered. He is probably responsible for more than 10 murders, he has probably molested more than 3 of his own artists when they first signed as kids, and has fucked over literally hundreds of artists on his own label for the same bullshit.
Dude has diplomatic immunity too, just in case he gets caught up again in this shady shit
TLDR: Baby should be in jail by now, but New Orleans 60 Day murder rule was so fucked back then that shit like this can happen in New Orleans and nothing can be done about it.
Please, these are theories. Don't get mad at me if only a small part of this is true.
Sources:
http://gcpress.com/bounce/bounce_timeline.html
Cash Money Records: The Birth of a Dynasty (Part 2)
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/origi...il-elt.240131/
Cash Money Records Co-Founder Terrance 'Gangsta' Williams Snitched For Lesser Sentence!!!
The story of the no limit/cash money beef - The Ill Community
Cash Money Records - The Independent Years (1991-199
at the Amoeblog
Disclaimer: These contain theories, so don't quote this thread as fact. Some of it is fact, some is theories based on facts.
With all this Wayne shit going on right now I though it would be good to finally highlight the criminal activity behind Cash Money and specifically Bryan "Baby/Birdman/Beatrice/Stunna" Williams. I would also point out that this is entirely researched based, I was never aware of this stuff, nor am I old enough for this to really occur during my time.
I am only going to highlight their criminal behaviour, I will try to not give too much of a history lesson.
Cash Money started off as a independent label back in 1991. They named their label after The Cash Money Brothers from New Jack City, interestingly enough, the apartment complex in the movie is called The Carter.
CM, before Universal bought them out for $30 million, was originally funded by Baby and Slim's half brother Terrence Williams, who is now serving a life sentece in jail for being a heroin kingpin and conspiracy to commit murder.
Cash Money Records Co-Founder Terrance 'Gangsta' Williams Snitched For Lesser Sentence!!!
Terrence was part of a dope dealing group called the Hot Boys, all other members of that group have been murdered. It's also good to note that Baby's first album was under B32 and called "I Need a Bag of Dope". Here's an entire song about doing heroin from the album.
Murders of Artists on The Label, Murders Committed by Artists on Label, and Associated Deaths with Cash Money
- After several releases on CM, Pimp Daddy is murdered in 1994 after his final release on his contract
- Kilo G is shot and killed in 1997, 2 years after his final release in 1995
- Yella Boy was rumored to have killed Mystikal's sister back in 1997 (Mystikal made a song called Murderer directed towards Yella Boy shortly after her death). Keep in mind this was during Cash Money's and No Limit's beef (Mystikal was No Limit back then). Baby is rumored to have ordered the hit and has bragged about it on songs back then.
- Yella Boy (from UNLV) is murdered in 1997 after his final release with Cash Money on his contract in 1996. He is rumored to have run up on Baby and Slim with a strap asking for unpaid royalties and shot up Baby's truck.
- Lil Elt shoots and kills a man named Colon Cains, Terrence snitches on him later in 2008, but Lil Elt is found not guilty by New Orleans 60 Day murder rule. Baby is rumored to have ordered the hit. Terrence would only know about this murder through his dealings with Cash Money.
- Shortly after collaborating with former Cash Money artist Juvenile in 2003 and producing a #1 hit record, Soulja Slim is found murdered in the 9th ward. A suspect named Garelle Smith is found and charged, but no witnesses are found and charges are later dropped. Smith is later murdered in 2011 (it is noted that the 60 Day Rule was banished around this time frame). This is probably unrelated to Cash Money, I'd just thought I should put it in.
-Lil Derrick/Bulletproof (a former Hotboy with Wayne, BG, Turk, and Juve) left the label early on, even before the Hotboys ever released any albums. It is good to note that Lil Derrick is Baby and Slim's nephew. In 2003, he releases a joint album with Kayotic under Undisputed records. The album has several features from former Cash Money artists Turk and BG, and has a large buzz in New Orleans. Soon after, Lil Derrick and the CEO of Undisputed records are murdered.
- Magnolia Shorty, a former Cash Money artist is found shot and killed in 2010, her boyfriend is found dead months later.
Heroin Dependancy
Both Turk and BG were addicted to heroin in the 90's. BG, Turk, and Wayne were all signed at extremely young ages by Baby (13, I think 14, and 11) before they even made a name for themselves. It is rumored that Wayne snorted heroin too in the 90's.
Here he talks about snorting stuff that's white. He has no clue what drug it is, he says he just did it.
Check 4:53
Allthough never confirmed by any members of the group, it is very well possible that Baby was supplying the heroin from his half-brother. Baby has admitted that the last time he touched a K was in 04.
Turk Revisits Birdman's "Ruthless" Business; Compares Heroin Battle To Ray Charles' | Rappers Talk Hip Hop Beef & Old School Hip Hop | HipHopDX
Molestation Allegations and Overall Suspect Behaviour
Wayne, Turk, and BG have all admitted to openly kissing Baby on the mouth, several times then they were young. There are tons of pictures and videos online showing this.
Wayne has also publicly stated that when he was young that Baby forced prostitutes to fuck him/ give him dome. Wayne was also raped at 11 years old.
Earlier this year Lil Chuckee created a stir when reports came out that he was molested by Birdman when he first signed, although later the statement was told to be false.
Bryan "Birdman" Williams Charged With Molesting Underage Rapper?
Now I think that the heroin use, the molestation allegations, and Baby signing these young artists all the time with relatively no names have a huge connection. You only do heroin if you are seriously fucked in the head from something or someone. My theory is that Wayne, BG, and Turk all started doing heroin in the 90's because they were all molested by Birdman. Juvenile never did heroin, but he had a name outside of CM when he was signed and he was a lot older than the other three artists at the time too.
I can list all the artists leaving Cash Money over money/promo issues, but it's basically their entire roster from day one. I don't think there was ever an artist on Cash Money that didn't have issues like that with Baby and Slim.
The point is that Cash Money management, especially Baby, is corrupted and evil as fuck. Wayne should have left back in 04 when he had the chance and Baby should have been put away for the first murder that he ordered. He is probably responsible for more than 10 murders, he has probably molested more than 3 of his own artists when they first signed as kids, and has fucked over literally hundreds of artists on his own label for the same bullshit.
Dude has diplomatic immunity too, just in case he gets caught up again in this shady shit
TLDR: Baby should be in jail by now, but New Orleans 60 Day murder rule was so fucked back then that shit like this can happen in New Orleans and nothing can be done about it.
Please, these are theories. Don't get mad at me if only a small part of this is true.
Sources:
http://gcpress.com/bounce/bounce_timeline.html
Cash Money Records: The Birth of a Dynasty (Part 2)
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/origi...il-elt.240131/
Cash Money Records Co-Founder Terrance 'Gangsta' Williams Snitched For Lesser Sentence!!!
The story of the no limit/cash money beef - The Ill Community
Cash Money Records - The Independent Years (1991-199
at the Amoeblog
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