Cultural Sociologist Disses Lil Wayne! -The New Yorker Magazine

[AishThaks]

Orlando Patterson(historical and cultural sociologist) Disses Lil Wayne according to the FEBRUARY 9, 2015 Issue of The New Yorker Magazine.

The Matter of Black Lives - The New Yorker

One difference between the current era and Moynihan’s, or Du Bois’s, is that contemporary sociologists have a new potential culprit to blame for the disorder they see: hip-hop. The anthology includes a careful history of the genre by Wayne Marshall, an ethnomusicologist, who emphasizes its mutability. But Patterson, brave as ever, can’t resist wading into this culture war. In one exuberant passage, he compares MC Hammer to Nietzsche, uses an obscure remix verse to contend that hip-hop routinely celebrates “forced abortions,” and pronounces Lil Wayne “irredeemably vulgar” and “all too typical” of the genre’s devolution. And yet he is a conscientious enough social scientist to concede that there doesn’t seem to be decisive evidence for a “causal link” between violent lyrics and violent behavior. Writing in 1999, Anderson mentioned hip-hop only in passing, suggesting that it supported, and was supported by, “an ideology of alienation.” (He was nearly as critical of “popular love songs” and “television soap operas,” which he judged to nourish girls’ dreams of storybook romance. “When a girl is approached by a boy,” he wrote, “her faith in the dream clouds her view of the situation.”) Now hip-hop has achieved cultural hegemony, but Patterson doesn’t seem to have noticed that the genre has become markedly less pugnacious in recent years, thanks to non-thuggish stars like Drake, Nicki Minaj, Macklemore, Kendrick Lamar, and Iggy Azalea. The next wave of culturalist analyses will surely be able to explain how this music, too, is part of the problem.

[Lil wayne prezident]

this is latest lil Wayne news?

[KnockMeOut]

Lol what a cunt smh. The language wayne uses is "irredeemably vulgar" lmao, but so the fuck what?

Pompous wankers like this don't understand that nobody listens to Wayne and then actually goes and does the shit he talks about. I've never felt the urge to run up in a nigga's house and shoot his grandmother up. Wayne says himself he is not a role model and that if you need a role model you "shouldn't have been born". Why would you model yourself on anybody else? The attitude that Wayne gives off is that he is himself no matter what and fuck what anybody else thinks and that's what his fans get from him (at least I did). And that attitude can help a lot of people growing up truly become themselves, especially if they are in a situation that makes them feel worthless. This is why I will always love Wayne, even if he doesn't set out to do that.

[legendarytunechi]

please don't post negativity on this site.

thank you.

[AishThaks]

please don't post negativity on this site.

thank you.

lol where should i post this then, on Katy Perry forums?
Bra The New Yorker is a reputed Magazine & everybody buys it even in Canada & UK!

[Lucifer]

lol where should i post this then, on Katy Perry forums? Bra The New Yorker is a reputed Magazine & everybody buys it even in Canada & UK!

but its negative news friend

[nickiminajsitonmyface]

I see his point. Hip-Hop used to be a movement to uplift the black community and speak on social issues, people used to do it for fun or just to express themselves.

You have to admit we've come a long way from this,

to Lil Wayne being popular in the mainstream. There's this huge rumor made up a long while ago about how some top heads somewhere sometime got together and decided the course Hip-Hop would move. They didn't like how it was a potential building block for something great and wanted to corrupt it for reasons well you know how the story goes.

Why I think Kanye is the one of the last greats of our time. T.I. is gangster rap, so is Wayne and Ross. So is Jay-Z and 50 used to be as well.

[AishThaks]

but its negative news friend

Ok I'm sorry for that but I've only posted this news to get some answers like [MENTION=11868]KnockMeOut[/MENTION] posted & prove that these bitch ass haters are wrong about Weezy!! [MENTION=7792]Wisheezy[/MENTION] [MENTION=2]Danny M[/MENTION] bra take this thread down please...

[zTunechi-]

Didnt read what he wrote, but at the end of the day , its your duty as a parent to guard your children, if we blamed the world about how kids are growing up(even though its the unfortunate truth) you wouldnt be able to see forward in life. But in context to this post, how a kids been brought up would determine how they listen to hip hop and wayne, to every negative theres a positive.

[WeEeEeEzZzZyYy]

Didnt read what he wrote

yea me neither brah

[Wisheezy]

I'll just move it, still worthy of discussion

[AishThaks]

I'll just move it, still worthy of discussion

thanks!