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  • #13
    Originally posted by Fireman View Post
    I'm sure they thought it be a smash radio hit. And they were dead fucking wrong. This is the kind of shit that needs to stay in the vault not all that heat like Kidnap Cupid or World On My Shoulders and all that.
    Everyone was trashing Christina's singing
    Don't get too high to look over blessings

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    • #14
      They were trying too hard to get another 'Lollipop' and to try and reunite Christina Milian's music career

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      • #15
        Start a fire was definitely supposed to be on C5, hence its inclusion on Part 1 of the track list. Granted, it wasn't official or anything, but I always noticed that they did take that trash Krazy off C5. So maybe that was a promo single, like Off Day.

        I always viewed Start a Fire as the final nail in the coffin before C5 got shelved. If you subscribe to the fake beef theory I've been pushing since 2014, it makes sense. Start a fire was the most try-hard "hit" I ever heard. It was so over the top. But there was no soul at all. (the beat wasn't bad)

        Anyway, I think that was the moment they bailed out of the original C5 plan. Believe me was a street single, I guess, but that basically fell flat. Krazy was put out as the A Milli, 6'7 type lyrical freestyle single, but it wasn't even in the same universe as those two tracks. That bombed too. Ditto Grindin, Gotti... In the end they used what they probably felt would be a massive single: Start a fire. That failed too.

        I think that was the moment they realized Wayne's name might not be as relevant as it was in 2011. They correctly concluded that the odds of a rapper regaining relevance by pummeling the public with so-so singles was not going to work, so their best bet was to cut their losses and focus on LEGACY work; make C5 the new Detox, but actually put it out to massive sales.

        Blah blah blah

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        • #16
          Originally posted by no_tom&jerry View Post
          Start a fire was definitely supposed to be on C5, hence its inclusion on Part 1 of the track list. Granted, it wasn't official or anything, but I always noticed that they did take that trash Krazy off C5. So maybe that was a promo single, like Off Day.

          I always viewed Start a Fire as the final nail in the coffin before C5 got shelved. If you subscribe to the fake beef theory I've been pushing since 2014, it makes sense. Start a fire was the most try-hard "hit" I ever heard. It was so over the top. But there was no soul at all. (the beat wasn't bad)

          Anyway, I think that was the moment they bailed out of the original C5 plan. Believe me was a street single, I guess, but that basically fell flat. Krazy was put out as the A Milli, 6'7 type lyrical freestyle single, but it wasn't even in the same universe as those two tracks. That bombed too. Ditto Grindin, Gotti... In the end they used what they probably felt would be a massive single: Start a fire. That failed too.

          I think that was the moment they realized Wayne's name might not be as relevant as it was in 2011. They correctly concluded that the odds of a rapper regaining relevance by pummeling the public with so-so singles was not going to work, so their best bet was to cut their losses and focus on LEGACY work; make C5 the new Detox, but actually put it out to massive sales.

          Blah blah blah
          Nah this aint it. Believe Me was bigger than you think it was on bilboard for half of 2014. It was almost as big as Uproar....

          Off day, krazy, grindin, gotti, start a fire were just promo singles they arnt suppose to sell or chart well and they arnt sent to radio etc.

          But did we hear the same album?
          Don't get too high to look over blessings

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          • #17
            Originally posted by when_it_snow_im_on_top View Post
            nah it was just a promo single like gotti, grindin and krazy

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            he cheated on her tho but drunk in love was rlly good from sftw2
            drunk in love was wack bruh
            worst song on the tape by far

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            • #18
              Originally posted by back on my bullish*t View Post
              drunk in love was wack bruh
              worst song on the tape by far
              nah every song was great
              Don't get too high to look over blessings

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              • #19
                Originally posted by Sukapushi View Post
                Goodness gracious, great wall of China.
                fire

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