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Originally posted by no_tom&jerry View PostAin’t trying to ruin the party for anyone else. Just pissed off because I was expecting something different. I’m not 16, I’m old asf. This sounds is fine for other artists but Wayne I hold to a higher standard. This is basically NC2 The Album. I wouldn’t say it’s objectively BAD (like IANAHB2) it’s just definitely not my cup of tea. Just sounds lazy.
I’m sure I’ll end up appreciating it for what it is. I just wanted more than that for this project. But tbh I should’ve seen it coming given his post-C5 features & shit.
Just pick your least favorite song from C5 and now imagine the new album sounded like an extension of THAT style. That’s Problems and Funeral for me. All good tho.
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Originally posted by mania983 View PostOh, stop complainin, just listen to Carter 2 or DD3
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Originally posted by no_tom&jerry View Post“Problems”, the weakest most mumbly song on C5, showed up at the party with 25 of his boys.
Wtf
This is a snap judgment I admit. I can appreciate the lyricism overall, but WTF. This NC2 auto tune flow is what we been waiting for all this time? My opinions could change over time but right now I’ma say this shit on record:
This actually is the funeral of Wayne for me, because the style most of us old Wayne heads love is officially dead and gone.
There’s enough shit out there sounding like this. Well at least we got C5, which definitely dabbled in new flows, but he did it well balanced and kept the whole project tight and exciting.
From what I’m hearing he is literally mumbling his ass through every track with that slack jaw fucking garbage flow.
complete delusion he just changed his voice SLIGHTLY and dustheads losing they mind yall couldnt handle him going hard with that new school inspiration like that
#FREEVELVET
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Originally posted by no_tom&jerry View PostAin’t trying to ruin the party for anyone else. Just pissed off because I was expecting something different. I’m not 16, I’m old asf. This sounds is fine for other artists but Wayne I hold to a higher standard. This is basically NC2 The Album. I wouldn’t say it’s objectively BAD (like IANAHB2) it’s just definitely not my cup of tea. Just sounds lazy.
I’m sure I’ll end up appreciating it for what it is. I just wanted more than that for this project. But tbh I should’ve seen it coming given his post-C5 features & shit.
Just pick your least favorite song from C5 and now imagine the new album sounded like an extension of THAT style. That’s Problems and Funeral for me. All good tho.
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Originally posted by ceb420 View PostNah you just nostalgic. Musically this shit is light years ahead of anything he did before and he still has the lyrics, rhyme schemes, and flows. Try to be happy man lol
lmaooooooooooooooooooooo cant even comprehend how to respond to this. if you seriously think that this is "lightyears" ahead of anything he did in the past you aren't even conscious.
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Originally posted by no_tom&jerry View PostAin’t trying to ruin the party for anyone else. Just pissed off because I was expecting something different. I’m not 16, I’m old asf.
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Originally posted by lilwayne-carter View Postlets all respect everyone's opinions on here
Because everyone has one, you know, just like everyone has . . . . . . .
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Originally posted by Lucifer View Postwayne is just trying to keep up with this new gen. if you sound like old wayne in 2020 you aint going to sell anything at all. its just how it is
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Yeah I totally appreciate Wayne experimenting with new styles as long as he’s got dope lyrics to go with it. Here he obviously does most of the time. This is very much like D6/6R and NC2 combined. And those were mixtapes built around current beats (duh) so clearly Funeral is based on modern music.
C5 was more like a further distillation of that style with all the fat cut off. The rhyming was very deliberate and muscular on C5. He knew the stakes were high. Also notice how few dick and pussy and “goons” lines there are on C5.
D6 was the breakthrough. Go back and read my old posts to hear my thoughts on the D6’s which has always been the same. That was the tape where he finally managed to nail the newer flow but with truly great lyrics. Then C5 he took that even further by quality control.
C5 also had a mixed bag of most Wayne styles to date. Not all. Most.
If D6/6R is the companion piece to C5, then NC2 is the companion to Funeral.
The funny thing is that I would fucking love Funeral if i knew nothing about Wayne and his history. But that ain’t the way it is. Expectations are a bitch.
But that don’t make this a terrible work like IANAHB2 or an uninspired drag like C4 (sorry it’s true). He definitely feeling what he’s doing and he’s got bars —- unfortunately this style just irritates me knowing what he can do.
The beats Wayne chooses often really determine how he raps — way more than most rappers actually. He’s chameleonic. I’ve also always said that Wayne never struck me as the type of person or artist who would want to make music he didn’t feel passionate about. He’s too much of a genius. Imagine you had to read 5th grade level books for the rest of your life? That’s probably how Wayne sees all his old styles he perfected. He seems to love whatever is popular, despite his opposing claims. He wants desperately to keep busy; to keep having fun and challenging himself. In 2 or 3 years this current flow will be exhausted. He will want nothing to do with it.
Wayne is the expert rapper for hire. He likes to jump on every new style and show that he can do it better than everyone else doing it. Think back. Every phase of his career it was true.
And of you really want to blow your mind think about this: the sound of Wayne NOT trying something new was the sound of C4. Bored. Phoning it in (on most tracks)Last edited by no_tom&jerry; 01-31-2020, 10:37 PM.
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