The Official Carter IV Speculation Thread

[Cli-City]

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Why do u guys seem like ur tired of Wayne? Im probly wrong it just seems like it lol.Like or your doubting him or something? Not tryin to start an argument, just wonderin lol

Because he keeps fucking up....and we are tired of defending half ass attempts at rapping....We know him well enough (See: Dedication 2 and Drought 3 and Carter 2)....to know that he can rhyme better than he can this year.....IANAHB was ass and those records were slated to be on Tha Carter IV....so becuase he hasnt been the best for about 2 years now we just want him to stop messing around and spit some deep shit that will be looked at as classic material....Everyone is doubting his raps because they seem watered down and repetitive...and face it if your a true fan of hip hop you want to see wayne back in form....and you can also admit that he been on some bullshit the past two years..or so..................I think he needs some guidance from some of the bigger heads in music..say a kanye or a nas that aint gonna ride his jock even when his verse aint all that...he needs to listen to the streets and blogs and see what they want...and everybody says they want wayne to rap like wayne...Before he use to spazz now all he does is use like in every other line.....I still like Wayne alot but im not deaf....so i have to admit right now he needs to start rapping good againt...he needs to get hungry....

[WaynesWorld2441]

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Iknow I dont.
But they probabkly do cos of IANAHB

Yea true. But IANAHB wasnt THAT bad like it wasnt weezy's best but he was rushing his music before he went to jail. Plus the ones that mack maine said was supposed tobe on tha carter IV (Right Above It, Bill Gates, Hold Up) were actually pretty good so i know weezy still has "it". His new music will be good i believe..

[JrockHQ]

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Why do u guys seem like ur tired of Wayne? Im probly wrong it just seems like it lol.Like or your doubting him or something? Not tryin to start an argument, just wonderin lol

Nah your right, Been noticing that myself.

[snoon13]

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anyone got that link? :p

[beto.]

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Because he keeps fucking up....and we are tired of defending half ass attempts at rapping....We know him well enough (See: Dedication 2 and Drought 3 and Carter 2)....to know that he can rhyme better than he can this year.....IANAHB was ass and those records were slated to be on Tha Carter IV....so becuase he hasnt been the best for about 2 years now we just want him to stop messing around and spit some deep shit that will be looked at as classic material....Everyone is doubting his raps because they seem watered down and repetitive...and face it if your a true fan of hip hop you want to see wayne back in form....and you can also admit that he been on some bullshit the past two years..or so..................I think he needs some guidance from some of the bigger heads in music..say a kanye or a nas that aint gonna ride his jock even when his verse aint all that...he needs to listen to the streets and blogs and see what they want...and everybody says they want wayne to rap like wayne...Before he use to spazz now all he does is use like in every other line.....I still like Wayne alot but im not deaf....so i have to admit right now he needs to start rapping good againt...he needs to get hungry....

co fucking sign

[WaynesWorld2441]

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Because he keeps fucking up....and we are tired of defending half ass attempts at rapping....We know him well enough (See: Dedication 2 and Drought 3 and Carter 2)....to know that he can rhyme better than he can this year.....IANAHB was ass and those records were slated to be on Tha Carter IV....so becuase he hasnt been the best for about 2 years now we just want him to stop messing around and spit some deep shit that will be looked at as classic material....Everyone is doubting his raps because they seem watered down and repetitive...and face it if your a true fan of hip hop you want to see wayne back in form....and you can also admit that he been on some bullshit the past two years..or so..................I think he needs some guidance from some of the bigger heads in music..say a kanye or a nas that aint gonna ride his jock even when his verse aint all that...he needs to listen to the streets and blogs and see what they want...and everybody says they want wayne to rap like wayne...Before he use to spazz now all he does is use like in every other line.....I still like Wayne alot but im not deaf....so i have to admit right now he needs to start rapping good againt...he needs to get hungry....

Yea i get what ur sayin. but this is how i look at it. Wayne is more into making music now rather than hardcore rapping. For example, back in carter II he was straight rapping and stuff like raw rapping but now with rebirth and some of IANAHB he is more into making better music which is what makes him great. Thats just how i view it. However i agree with wat ur saying whichi is basically that if he started that raw rapping again then he would sell more and most of his fan base would like it better. But hes gonna do what he wants cuz he has the money and the fame. but i think hes gonna go back to raw rappin

[tha_chronic]

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I just want Wayne to go back to C3, C2, C1, DD3, D2 style ..is that so much to ask ? lol he was on a whole different level then ..Look I like songs from Rebirth they were aight especially for an experimental album but IANAHB is not "best rapper alive" material ..it was meant to be C4 and it's really not the best :S ..I want the shit he was on man ..2008 is not really when he totally fell off but 2009 end of post Rebirth is when it went downhill ..I was hoping prison would bring the hunger back but it seems like it's not ..Dudes you don't even know how badly I want Wayne to come back harder than ever, i'm just skeptical. I will never stop liking Wayne but I will definitely be a little disappointed as a fan.

It can't be too much too ask too have the lyrical depth he's used to having. I don't even mind the sex, money, drugs, cars talk ..he used to lyrically put shit like that across intelligently and humorously .. now it feels not so funny and a bit weak. He used to put together rhymes much better as well ..I don't know man ..I used to be left in a daze when I listened to a Wayne song thats all..

[wolverinebball11]

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I just want Wayne to go back to C3, C2, C1, DD3, D2 style ..is that so much to ask ? lol he was on a whole different level then ..Look I like songs from Rebirth they were aight especially for an experimental album but IANAHB is not "best rapper alive" material ..it was meant to be C4 and it's really not the best :S ..I want the shit he was on man ..2008 is not really when he totally fell off but 2009 end of post Rebirth is when it went downhill ..I was hoping prison would bring the hunger back but it seems like it's not ..Dudes you don't even know how badly I want Wayne to come back harder than ever, i'm just skeptical. I will never stop liking Wayne but I will definitely be a little disappointed as a fan.

How would you know if it has or not?

[tha_chronic]

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How would you know if it has or not?

I guess your right, I don't know but Fire Flame Remix was good but it didn't really sound hungry, it just sounded like a more in depth version of IANAHB verses..and this "supposed" verse from 6'7" is sounding the same...I know it could be fake but you have to admit it does sound like something Wayne would say nowadays.

[WaynesWorld2441]

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"[QUOTE=tha_chronic;335640]I just want Wayne to go back to C3, C2, C1, DD3, D2 style ..is that so much to ask ? lol he was on a whole different level then ..Look I like songs from Rebirth they were aight especially for an experimental album but IANAHB is not "best rapper alive" material ..it was meant to be C4 and it's really not the best :S ..I want the shit he was on man ..2008 is not really when he totally fell off but 2009 end of post Rebirth is when it went downhill ..I was hoping prison would bring the hunger back but it seems like it's not ..Dudes you don't even know how badly I want Wayne to come back harder than ever, i'm just skeptical. I will never stop liking Wayne but I will definitely be a little disappointed as a fan. "
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I think hes gonna get that hunger back. fire flame was hot and hes working hard in the studio. just cuz he isnt releasing music doesnt really mean anything. just wait till he releases stuff. i dont think its going to dissapoint. but i think no ceilings was really good imo and was his raw rapping again.but thats just me

[JrockHQ]

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^ Wayne fire flame verses sounded more determined and focus & whoever believes that was 6'7 lyrics are...

[wolverinebball11]

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I guess your right, I don't know but Fire Flame Remix was good but it didn't really sound hungry, it just sounded like a more in depth version of IANAHB verses..and this "supposed" verse from 6'7" is sounding the same...I know it could be fake but you have to admit it does sound like something Wayne would say nowadays.

I personally don't think that verse is real, but if it is that's not a very good verse... We've only heard like 2 1/2 verses since he got out, so I'm withholding judgment until we get at least 1 full song.