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Originally posted by Mbminas View Postahahah you must be joking right? from the beginning serbians were shouting kill kill the albanians all the time... since the beginning of the anthem they were shouting? and im albanian tho but im not a asshole to be arguing for politics bcuz they have destroyed our life but it seems u are blind enough. It was nothing staged by albanian association everybody knows the dude who did it...but u listen to ur country media what can i expect...and it has to do too much with religion since you are a christian how can u call other ppl cunt and do like this on the pitch? exactly a true christian...
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and its not only vs albania
What they were shouting about kill, kill the albanians, is offesive, but Albanian players called our players offensive names as well, and Albanian fans shout bad about Serbia at lots of matches that are sometimes even completely irrelevant to Serbia..
I am not arguing about politics. Fact is Serbs hate Albanians, and Albanians hate Serbs. Me, personally, I have no bad opinion about Albanians, I know there are good and there are bad people in every country. So I am not blind at all.
Yeah, everyone knows the dude who did it, and it was not staged but it was planed. He planed to do that even before the match started, Albanian side didn't want to finish the match, they entered the game with thoughts of ending it as soon as possible.. And they did it. I don't give a shit about my country media, they are all sellouts and retards, I watched the game live and I know what I've seen.
No one ever said that if you are Christian you can't call people cunts and do bad stuff on pitch, that's not even relevant to religion, it's about how those hooligans were raised as kids, not about being christian..
And that video you show from England match is just plain stupid. That bitch Rose was provoking from 1st minute, and that dude who first started fight Ninkovic is like Balotelli of Serbian football, mentally wise, he fights every match..Plus those were players, and they are young, you can't compare this and that, because our players did nothing wrong against Albania, and Albanian players did. And I can find videos like that where hooligans are doing similar shit in EVERY country. Turkey, Greece, Albania, England, France, Italy.. It's part of football, you are making it seem like Serbia is only one doing that and like we are worst country to play football in..
Do you even know that Albanian hooligans attacked Greek minority in Serbia after the match?
Do you even know that Albanian hooligans (400-500 of them) stood in front of normal neighbourhood in Serbia and yelled: "Die Serbs!" for 30 minutes in front of all kids and old people who live there until black car stopped and gave them sign to move along? (Happened moments before the match)
You don't.
After UEFA gives final decision about this incident you will see that you were wrong, Serbia should get consequences for bad security (even tho you just can't stop people from shouting whatever they want, and you can't stop them from entering pitch..even at World Cup people jumped the fence all the time).., but Albania should and will suffer much, much bigger consequences..
And what the fuck is up with Albanians celebrating after the match in the streets of Albania, Kosovo, Montenegro? What the fuck were they celebrating? That they ruined football match? That they once again provoked Serbs and made us look bad even tho we aren't? I guess that's for celebration..
Originally posted by dletender View PostYeah Albanians provoked, but your fans just overreacted. Throwing things and hitting players with chairs and so on is not acceptable at all
Our player just wanted to put the flag down and give it to ref, and then Albanian player steals it and attacks our player and then runs with flag that has The Great Albania territory on it.. It's a fuckin' terrorist flag, and he protected it like it was his family! WTF?!
And then our fans just reacted too fast and with testosterones that high you can't stop it, they just wanted to protect our players, and our players even stopped lots of fans from fighting Albanians, they protected them..
And then, when everything cooled off, Albanian players decided to run through tunnel??! How stupid is that?
Whatever dude, I just hope UEFA won't be biased.. for all I know and like Platini said, instead of that flag, it could have been a bomb on that drone, and what the fuck would yall think then?Last edited by MarkoMaxX; 10-18-2014, 10:07 PM.
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Originally posted by MarkoMaxX View PostIt's not, but it's our mentality, you have to understand how much hate there is between Serbia and Albania, and trust me these players were aiming for that to happen..
Our player just wanted to put the flag down and give it to ref, and then Albanian player steals it and attacks our player and then runs with flag that has The Great Albania territory on it.. It's a fuckin' terrorist flag, and he protected it like it was his family! WTF?!
And then our fans just reacted too fast and with testosterones that high you can't stop it, they just wanted to protect our players, and our players even stopped lots of fans from fighting Albanians, they protected them..
And then, when everything cooled off, Albanian players decided to run through tunnel??! How stupid is that?
Whatever dude, I just hope UEFA won't be biased.. for all I know and like Platini said, instead of that flag, it could have been a bomb on that drone, and what the fuck would yall think then?
Estonia?Russia relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Here is the video what happend in our capital in 2007, when russians started riots.
And once there was a huge fight between russian football fans and estonians, but attacking players isn't just right in my opinions, you gotta control ur emotions.
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Originally posted by MarkoMaxX View PostI am not joking. Those dudes who were shouting at anthem are idiots. But do you think Albanian fans aren't going to shout at our anthem when we play in Albania??
What they were shouting about kill, kill the albanians, is offesive, but Albanian players called our players offensive names as well, and Albanian fans shout bad about Serbia at lots of matches that are sometimes even completely irrelevant to Serbia..
I am not arguing about politics. Fact is Serbs hate Albanians, and Albanians hate Serbs. Me, personally, I have no bad opinion about Albanians, I know there are good and there are bad people in every country. So I am not blind at all.
Yeah, everyone knows the dude who did it, and it was not staged but it was planed. He planed to do that even before the match started, Albanian side didn't want to finish the match, they entered the game with thoughts of ending it as soon as possible.. And they did it. I don't give a shit about my country media, they are all sellouts and retards, I watched the game live and I know what I've seen.
No one ever said that if you are Christian you can't call people cunts and do bad stuff on pitch, that's not even relevant to religion, it's about how those hooligans were raised as kids, not about being christian..
And that video you show from England match is just plain stupid. That bitch Rose was provoking from 1st minute, and that dude who first started fight Ninkovic is like Balotelli of Serbian football, mentally wise, he fights every match..Plus those were players, and they are young, you can't compare this and that, because our players did nothing wrong against Albania, and Albanian players did. And I can find videos like that where hooligans are doing similar shit in EVERY country. Turkey, Greece, Albania, England, France, Italy.. It's part of football, you are making it seem like Serbia is only one doing that and like we are worst country to play football in..
Do you even know that Albanian hooligans attacked Greek minority in Serbia after the match?
Do you even know that Albanian hooligans (400-500 of them) stood in front of normal neighbourhood in Serbia and yelled: "Die Serbs!" for 30 minutes in front of all kids and old people who live there until black car stopped and gave them sign to move along? (Happened moments before the match)
You don't.
After UEFA gives final decision about this incident you will see that you were wrong, Serbia should get consequences for bad security (even tho you just can't stop people from shouting whatever they want, and you can't stop them from entering pitch..even at World Cup people jumped the fence all the time).., but Albania should and will suffer much, much bigger consequences..
And what the fuck is up with Albanians celebrating after the match in the streets of Albania, Kosovo, Montenegro? What the fuck were they celebrating? That they ruined football match? That they once again provoked Serbs and made us look bad even tho we aren't? I guess that's for celebration..
It's not, but it's our mentality, you have to understand how much hate there is between Serbia and Albania, and trust me these players were aiming for that to happen..
Our player just wanted to put the flag down and give it to ref, and then Albanian player steals it and attacks our player and then runs with flag that has The Great Albania territory on it.. It's a fuckin' terrorist flag, and he protected it like it was his family! WTF?!
And then our fans just reacted too fast and with testosterones that high you can't stop it, they just wanted to protect our players, and our players even stopped lots of fans from fighting Albanians, they protected them..
And then, when everything cooled off, Albanian players decided to run through tunnel??! How stupid is that?
Whatever dude, I just hope UEFA won't be biased.. for all I know and like Platini said, instead of that flag, it could have been a bomb on that drone, and what the fuck would yall think then?
Also albanian players didnt hit any of serbian players they just went to take the flag but then fans entered the pitch , even stewards was attacking the players and how can u play football when 30k ppl shout that want you dead? think about it....
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Originally posted by dletender View PostYeah bro i understand that, same thing is between Russia and Estonia, we was once occupied by these fckers.
Estonia?Russia relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Here is the video what happend in our capital in 2007, when russians started riots.
And once there was a huge fight between russian football fans and estonians, but attacking players isn't just right in my opinions, you gotta control ur emotions.
Originally posted by Mbminas View PostEven in the pitch was Ivan Bogdanov the one who burned albanian flag vs italy in october 2010 , he was banned for 5 years but as you can see he was there...also the player had no rights to take the flag down , there are stewards for this job...Also why the fuck should serbian fans burn NATO flag since they just went there to watch the match?
Also albanian players didnt hit any of serbian players they just went to take the flag but then fans entered the pitch , even stewards was attacking the players and how can u play football when 30k ppl shout that want you dead? think about it....
Player had no right to take the flag down? Are you fucking retarded mate? It's terrorist flag, no stewards were coming, flag was beneath him, he had all rights to take the flag down and allow for match to continue, when flares and some objects get thrown on pitch, in 90% of cases PLAYERS take object and put it outside of pitch.. When there are 2 balls on pitch, should players wait for stewards do come and take 2nd ball off the pitch, no they always take the 2nd ball out themselves, this shit is same, he wanted to play the match as soon as possible.
Why should Serbian fans burn NATO flag? For millions of reason, like they fucking bombarded shit out of us for no reason of their concern???
You fuckin' biased as hell dude..
And Albanian players pushed and hit our player who had the flag, check the video again please.
And Albanian players had no right to take the flag from his hands, they provoked the attack, intentionally.
But whatever, it's not like I'm gonna change your mind, you obviously have secret hate toward Serbs, and you obviously ignored all of the facts I told you, and you just can't accept the fact that Albanians are to blame for this and that they are sometimes really, really bad nation.
I'll repeat again:
Do you even know that Albanian hooligans attacked Greek minority in Serbia after the match?
Do you even know that Albanian hooligans (400-500 of them) stood in front of normal neighbourhood in Serbia and yelled: "Die Serbs!" for 30 minutes in front of all kids and old people who live there until black car stopped and gave them sign to move along? (Happened moments before the match)
Why did you ignore this?
It's just a shame that first match wasn't played in Albania, then you would see true face of Albanians, and you would see what kind of things their fans would sing against Serbs..
But match will be played there as well, and you will see that it's just stupid to only blame Serbs and lift Albanians like they are so, so innocent.
Completely changed opinion about your tbh.. I never expected of you to be so blind and biased and ignore the facts.. But alright..
Like people say, time will tell.. and it will tell the truth..
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Originally posted by MarkoMaxX View PostIt isn't right I agree of course, but it's just mentality..
True, but Bogdanov has connections.. I hate that dude, but he has connections and they allowed him on stadium..
Player had no right to take the flag down? Are you fucking retarded mate? It's terrorist flag, no stewards were coming, flag was beneath him, he had all rights to take the flag down and allow for match to continue, when flares and some objects get thrown on pitch, in 90% of cases PLAYERS take object and put it outside of pitch.. When there are 2 balls on pitch, should players wait for stewards do come and take 2nd ball off the pitch, no they always take the 2nd ball out themselves, this shit is same, he wanted to play the match as soon as possible.
Why should Serbian fans burn NATO flag? For millions of reason, like they fucking bombarded shit out of us for no reason of their concern???
You fuckin' biased as hell dude..
And Albanian players pushed and hit our player who had the flag, check the video again please.
And Albanian players had no right to take the flag from his hands, they provoked the attack, intentionally.
But whatever, it's not like I'm gonna change your mind, you obviously have secret hate toward Serbs, and you obviously ignored all of the facts I told you, and you just can't accept the fact that Albanians are to blame for this and that they are sometimes really, really bad nation.
I'll repeat again:
Do you even know that Albanian hooligans attacked Greek minority in Serbia after the match?
Do you even know that Albanian hooligans (400-500 of them) stood in front of normal neighbourhood in Serbia and yelled: "Die Serbs!" for 30 minutes in front of all kids and old people who live there until black car stopped and gave them sign to move along? (Happened moments before the match)
Why did you ignore this?
It's just a shame that first match wasn't played in Albania, then you would see true face of Albanians, and you would see what kind of things their fans would sing against Serbs..
But match will be played there as well, and you will see that it's just stupid to only blame Serbs and lift Albanians like they are so, so innocent.
Completely changed opinion about your tbh.. I never expected of you to be so blind and biased and ignore the facts.. But alright..
Like people say, time will tell.. and it will tell the truth..
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Originally posted by Mbminas View Postim off really.. i wont even bother to read this , im here for Lil Wayne and not you argue with you.My only country is earth, since there are ppl like you there will be always hate with these countries.
I'm here for Lil Wayne as well, but this is general thread, and we can talk about anything here.
I don't get what kind of human you think I am?
I already said, I do not hate Albania, I do not hate any country, I hate bad people and of course there are bad people and people doing bad actions in every single country.
I never said Serbian fans were not wrong, they were, they should have never entered the pitch and attack the players, that's very wrong.
What I did see from you is that you put all the blame on Serbs and none of the blame to Albanians, and that is pretty wrong in this case.
If you are telling me to be realistic and not blind, I expect the same from you, and I'm sorry but I didn't see that from this argument.
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Originally posted by MarkoMaxX View PostI would like you to read it, since it's about respect, I took my time and wrote what I thought and I'd expect from you to at least acknowledge it by reading it.
I'm here for Lil Wayne as well, but this is general thread, and we can talk about anything here.
I don't get what kind of human you think I am?
I already said, I do not hate Albania, I do not hate any country, I hate bad people and of course there are bad people and people doing bad actions in every single country.
I never said Serbian fans were not wrong, they were, they should have never entered the pitch and attack the players, that's very wrong.
What I did see from you is that you put all the blame on Serbs and none of the blame to Albanians, and that is pretty wrong in this case.
If you are telling me to be realistic and not blind, I expect the same from you, and I'm sorry but I didn't see that from this argument.
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Originally posted by Mbminas View PostI didnt say that drone was a good move , but Serbians fans were the worse ive even seen. There was no respect about the football players. Football players has nothing to do with what happened to Serbia by NATO, they are just selected to play for their country , the problem with humans is that they do not forgive and after they expect to be forgiven by god. Fans should had been more civilized. UEFA should had avoid this game but they are corrupted as fuck and they are a part of this , they want ppl to be in fight and to hate each other. Idk if you believe in God or not but this was all planned to happen...I would recommend you to read Albert Pikes Book he was a Freemason but his book has things that sound very interesting. I think that book would help to understand whats behind all. So i dont bother with politics, i just care about my family , my friends ,the good humans and the girl i like and Weezy ofc lol. Also i wasnt blaming Serbians in general but the crowd that were on the stadium. Never said Serbia is a shitty country or serbian ppl are "Cunts" just didnt like their behavior and some Internet Comments they were writing as example: " Greece and Serbia are Orthodox brothers , together we will fuck Albania..." What kind of Orthodox is this? Im an orthdox but dont write shit like this....since i claim to be orthodox i should chase peace...not war.
You don't believe me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix_6d0GlO6Q , https://in.news.yahoo.com/15-pitch-i...100556139.html
Same shit..different country..
But I agree with you, fans should have been more civilized, but as you can see, it's a problem every country has. And it's about people, not country, not religion.
I agree that UEFA should have never paired Albania and Serbia, and it was just a huge mistake, and now EU commissioner is forcing some Albanian politician Rama to visit Serbia for diplomatic matters, like they really want something bad to happen.. I don't even get them..
About respect, you mentioned fans should respect opposing players, I agree, but once fans see that away players don't respect home players, or vice-versa, they think it's alright to not respect them, they think like kids.
And once they saw Albanian player steal flag and push our player, they found it right to jump in and fight, which is stupid, but it's mentality and it's huge tension between these countries and people, and it was a conflict that was CERTAIN to happen, which is why UEFA should have not allowed this match to be played and which is why Serbian Football Association disallowed Albanian fans to come to game.Last edited by MarkoMaxX; 10-19-2014, 10:34 AM.
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Originally posted by MarkoMaxX View PostWorst you ever seen? Mate we aren't worst, people are like that in every country..
You don't believe me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix_6d0GlO6Q , https://in.news.yahoo.com/15-pitch-i...100556139.html
Same shit..different country..
But I agree with you, fans should have been more civilized, but as you can see, it's a problem every country has. And it's about people, not country, not religion.
I agree that UEFA should have never paired Albania and Serbia, and it was just a huge mistake, and now EU commissioner is forcing some Albanian politician Rama to visit Serbia for diplomatic matters, like they really want something bad to happen.. I don't even get them..
About respect, you mentioned fans should respect opposing players, I agree, but once fans see that away players don't respect home players, or vice-versa, they think it's alright to not respect them, they think like kids.
And once they saw Albanian player steal flag and push our player, they found it right to jump in and fight, which is stupid, but it's mentality and it's huge tension between these countries and people, and it was a conflict that was CERTAIN to happen, which is why UEFA should have not allowed this match to be played and which is why Serbian Football Association disallowed Albanian fans to come to game.
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Originally posted by Mbminas View PostIm not saying that Serbian fans are the worse in the world but from what i've seen.Im saying that cuz i only watch Premier League and nothing like that happens there.Neighbor countries should be like brothers and not fighting for any land..But as stupid beings we are, we kill eachother for unnecessarily things. The only winners are the politicians cuz they steal everything but we dont even notice bcuz we are blind enough to see the truth
I agree, and politicians today steal, and they don't even hide it, but people still don't notice and are blind.
And I hate when shit like this happens cuz it just gives material to shitty media to make a global story about how Serbia is bad, once again..and we are really not..
Our league is weak with only 2-3 teams that are kinda strong..and our FA is very poor, and there is so much mafia involved and politics, and I hate that and it's shame for all those great footballers that come from our country, and despite all those problems we are still a great sports nation (2nd in FIBA World Cup -basketball, almost always world champions in waterpolo, always good in volleyball, football players U21 just beat Spain selection U21 - with Isco, Morata and other fantastic players)..and it's a huge shame that all that gets forgotten very, very fast, as soon as shit like this happens..
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