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  • #49
    Originally posted by Weezy_KB24 View Post
    Religion is the worst thing ever.


    Its slavery.
    Not really..

    I'm a Christain..attend church regulary..follow Gods word as best I can even tho I slip up..

    And I live a pretty great life lol I don't feel like a slave

    Its people that make it into a slave mentality..not Gods fault

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    • #50
      Originally posted by Vocker View Post
      Jesus is not a god lol. Jesus didn't write the Bible lol.


      I can also say Big Bang theory and Evolution are stories that is made up by a couple of scientists that were smoking crack.

      Just like how any scifi movie is made up lol.



      Same shit, different toilet.
      no fucking shit.

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      • #51
        Originally posted by Vocker View Post
        Jesus is not a god lol. Jesus didn't write the Bible lol.


        I can also say Big Bang theory and Evolution are stories that is made up by a couple of scientists that were smoking crack.

        Just like how any scifi movie is made up lol.



        Same shit, different toilet.
        There are proofs for Big Bang Theory and the theory of evolution. Strong proofs.

        There are no proofs of any crap written in Bible. There is not a proof of Jesus being a son of God.

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        • #52
          What if there is another universe out there that has a planet similar to earth, with human beings and everything. Do you think they would be further advanced or would we be further advanced in technology?

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          • #53
            Originally posted by YoungTunechie View Post
            What if there is another universe out there that has a planet similar to earth, with human beings and everything. Do you think they would be further advanced or would we be further advanced in technology?
            We're probably more advanced than some while others are more advanced than us.

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            • #54
              Originally posted by YoungTunechie View Post
              What if there is another universe out there that has a planet similar to earth, with human beings and everything. Do you think they would be further advanced or would we be further advanced in technology?
              your theory is called a parallel universe, and yes its possible their could be many parallel universes where only a slight thing is altered, for example their could be a parallel universe where you are now reading this post but have 3 eyes etc..

              On topic of the video -

              Its probably sun rays penetrating the earths atmosphere creating a optical illusion, I didn't really watch all of the video or see anything in the 2 minutes I watched it, but their will be a logical reason for whatever is seen on the video.

              Edit - Re watched it, its probably just some crazy genius testing out some new technology.
              Last edited by Mr. Postman; 06-24-2013, 11:52 AM.

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              • #55
                Originally posted by Mr. Postman View Post
                your theory is called a parallel universe, and yes its possible their could be many parallel universes where only a slight thing is altered, for example their could be a parallel universe where you are now reading this post but have 3 eyes etc..

                On topic of the video -

                Its probably sun rays penetrating the earths atmosphere creating a optical illusion, I didn't really watch all of the video or see anything in the 2 minutes I watched it, but their will be a logical reason for whatever is seen on the video.

                Edit - Re watched it, its probably just some crazy genius testing out some new technology.


                That's crazy, and the government is probably able to replicate UFO'S and are testing them out?

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                • #56
                  No wonder you guys don't believe lol, you probably been misinformed. Lol, here I'll take the time to try to fix that. This whole "religion" thing got you guys confused.


                  Originally posted by Vocker View Post
                  Lol to what happened to this thread. Everybody thinks what they believe in is the truth and the facts

                  Believe in whatever you want to believe in. Either you believe their is a God that created this universe and there is an answer for everything that is happening, or your an atheist that thinks that the universe happened for a Big Bang and that humans are part of an evolution that went from becteria to monkeys to whatever.

                  What you should do tho, is keep it to yourself. If you think you are right then no one gives a fuck, it's not like anyone will change their opinion in the Internet coz someone told you so.

                  Illuminati, UFOs, demons, angels...that's all shit that none of us know if they exist or not. Why? Because we are all in a forums that is about a music aritst that talks about pussy a lot of the time, and because we enjoy music.

                  I don't give a fuck what you believe in. You can keep it to yourself, unless you are insecure and you feel like everybody have to think like you to make sure that its right.






                  Originally posted by WeezYIsCraaazY View Post
                  Religion is the worst, man. It creates such a slave morality it's not even funny.

                  Look at the numbers who have killed in the name of religion. Then look at those who killed in the name of atheist. Then there's the fact that the older religious bunch didn't even believe in evolution; until of course science proved them wrong.

                  "Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of 10 things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these 10 things he has a special place full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry for ever and ever until the end of time...but he loves you."

                  "Faith: not wanting to know what is true."

                  "I cannot believe in a God who wants to be praised all the time."

                  "If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."

                  "Thank god I'm an atheist."








                  Originally posted by Vocker View Post
                  Nah. Not just religious people. Even atheism is full of ignorant people and extreme people.

                  There is Atheists make fun of anybody that believe in a God. A lot of schools now don't allow you to speak about God and all they teach them is the Big Bang theory and Evolution and if the kid asks the teacher about God he will treat him like an ignorant bastard and so the kids are also forced to believe in one thing or they end up in the category of being ignorant. Isn't that what "Religion" in the eyes of the people is?

                  They believe is what "scientists" says even when they says its a "theory". Just like how people believed in what Jesus used to say.

                  They say show us pictures and videos of God. Will show pictures and videos of the Big Bang theory.

                  They say that Religion starts fights. But even in music people fight and get mad at each other.

                  Syria is getting destroyed not because of different religions, nah it's about other shit.

                  It's all the same shit just a different toilet.

                  What we should do tho, is believe in whatever we want to believe in. Whatever it is. Just let it to yourself, and make sure that no one gives a fuck what you think.

                  That's all.




                  Originally posted by WeezYIsCraaazY View Post
                  Like I said, I don't think it's good to encourage something that encourages a slave morality. In religion, you are restricted by the doctrines passed down through the centuries--as if any prophet could have envisioned what the world would be like today.

                  I'm not talking about the Big Bang, but even if I was, there's far more evidence to suggest there was one than there is to suggest there is a god (note I'm not captalising "his" name thus not giving "him" the praise he asks for).

                  People can believe what they want to believe; I personally think living in a Darwinian society would be a bad thing, but that doesn't mean the facts shouldn't prevail. (I'm sure you'd look at somewhat strangely if they said they believe in Joe Pesci. But believing in Joe Pesci is no different than believing in god. I could pray to either of them, and neither of my requests would be fulfilled.)

                  And when I said people kill in the name of religion, I'm saying people kill in the name of religion. There's a difference between an atheist killer (Hitler, Stalin) and one who kills in the name of atheism (I can't think of a single person).





                  Side note: I just realised that the 10 commandments is such a genius move. I mean, it could all be condensed down to 3 or 4 commandments, but that's not frightening. The big bad 10, however, really makes people nervous.







                  Originally posted by Weezy_KB24 View Post
                  Religion is the worst thing ever.


                  Its slavery.





                  I agree Religion IS the worst. Religion wasnt created by God tho man. Religion was created by man.
                  The way to be right with God in every religion is by earning your way. It is based on works, not grace. Christianity is different from every religion in this aspect: all other religions (including Mormonism, Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism) state that you must earn the right to be reconciled with God.


                  Religion is man trying to reach up to God. The message of Christianity is God reaching down to man. Religion is about what man has to DO to be right with God. Christianity is about what God has already DONE to provide us the opportunity to be right with Him.
                  Religion says you must EARN your salvation by doing good deeds or certain acts and not doing evil. (Thats where the "Slavery" part comes in"
                  Christianity says all we need to do is BELIEVE that Christ has already paid the price for the evil we have done. Christianity says we are all evil (filled with sin) and there is nothing we can do to earn the right to be saved. Christianity says that God (in the form of Jesus Christ) stepped into our place and paid the awful price that had to be paid for us. He gave us the freegift of salvation if we choose to believe in Jesus.

                  This is the difference between religion and TRUE Christianity. There is no checklist or list of rules that you must follow. It is ALL about your relationships, vertical and horizontal. There is no rhetoric or rituals that have to be practiced. Believe that Jesus Christ came to earth and died for your sins, accept his FREE GIFT, let God help you to love Him and love others. That’s it! It is so simple it sounds stupid, and it would be if there was no real POWER here.




                  Religion says "If I obey God will love me" "If you stop drinking, sleeping aroudnd blah blah blah then God will love you" "Then you'll go to heaven" NOOOOOWHEREEEEE EVERRR HAS GOD SAIDD THAT AT ALLL

                  THAT is religion man. Chrisitanity, is so simple man i dnt even know why they call it a "religion" nowadays but, NONE of us are good enough for God, and never will be at all.

                  God loves us bro regardless of how much we sin, regardless of what we do, nothing can make him love us more or less.


                  Imagine a dad go to his daugheter right, and giving a list and saying, only if you follow this list, I will love you. Nahhhh lol thats not how God works at all bruh, its simple, God loves us already , he gave a list of commandments,

                  And If you read the 10 Commandments you will notice that they are all about relationships. They are either about improving our relationship with God or with other people. So the law can be summed up in love; love for God and love for others. It was never intended to be a list of rules that can be relegated to a checklist or mathematical formula. We are talking about love

                  Ya feel me ? I would replied sooner but I was kinda busy lol



                  Originally posted by Vocker View Post
                  ^ Same shit just different toilet.

                  You want to prove you are right, he wants to prove he is right. Both look at each others like ignorants. Believe there is more proof in what you believe.

                  Forced to study about Evolution and Big Bang or you are ignorant is also taken as slavery tbh lol.

                  It's not about religion, it's the people.

                  Guns aren't the reason why someone died.
                  I dont want to be proven right, And I dont look at anyone as "ignorant" at all. Im just trying to spread love and God, thats all im doing. I dont have to be proven right, i dont have proof for them to see that God is real, I dont have it. I'm living proof right here that God is real, yall saw the way I was before bruh, posting porn and all that, but look at me now, God changed my heart, that what he does when u accept him, it doesnt happen overnight tho, its a daily struggle.





                  Originally posted by Weezy_KB24 View Post
                  religious people are worshipping the sun UOENO.

                  Look into how Jesus was made up like all the other gods. The bible mostly stole a bunch of shit from older gods anyways. All the same stuff, different time.

                  Can you show me some evidence of the bible stealing from other "gods".? I just wanna see where your coming from. Im not aruging or nothing.



                  Originally posted by MarkoMaxX View Post
                  Damn, I love watching these videos. I'm fascinated with extraterrestrials.
                  This is some powerful thing right here. I once witnessed an UFO and it was awesome.. It light up the sky and it was blue and very fast.. Too bad I was alone and with no camera..

                  And these are not demons or angels, but you can call them whatever you like.. There are extraterrestrials, from other galaxies.. I'm sure that we are not alone in this world and that the Earth was visited by extraterrestrials in past, present and will be visited in future.

                  Yes bro, they are fallen angels disguised as demons, they are indeed trying to devieve the world into thinking they are aliens.


                  Originally posted by Vision Blurred View Post
                  What kind of evil things did illuminati do to the world? (srs question)

                  What if these old men used their wealth to save the world?
                  I mean its a secret organisation, right? you wouldn't now the stuff they do behidn the scenes
                  Maybe they're like a force of people to protect the worlds population from all kinds of crazy things
                  that would cause chaos and riots if it went public

                  How do you know its not better this way ?

                  and no dont tell me about them spreading satanism and stuff,
                  because that is up to people and their god-given free will and thinking

                  what did they actually DO to the WORLD that is so horrible in your opinion


                  Well illuminati basically manipulate the world broski. If they are here to protect us, why be so secrective? If they aren't here to harm us, why hide? I don't know many organizations that are doing good and positive things for the world who try to hide themselves away from the world, as if they are some modern day robin hood, steal from rich give to the poor type thing lol.

                  But horrible stuff they do to the world? Well, they manipulate it bruh, all to bring out their one world government system and religion, and all to get us to worship the antichrist, thats their MAIN agenda. All these small acts are just steps leading to the bigger ordeal.
                  They attack us thru entrainment, thru symbols. Theres a quote that says

                  "Signs And symbols rule the world, not rules and laws"
                  To a child, signs and symbols emerge in the consciousness prior to an understanding of governing rules. Children see the world in deeply symbolic terms. We teach children through signs and symbols, red means hot, blue means cold, an arrow means to go this way or that, etc.

                  All those illuminti symbols may not seem like nothing, most people don't see them as anything, and as someone speaks up about it, "oh lil wayne has an all seeing eye on his shirt " they become some crazy conspiracist theorist.
                  But yes, they get into our conscious minds, we become use to seeing them, and before we know it, we're wearing them also. My friend said he wen't to newyork, and he walked by soooo many teenage Kids rocking satanic symbols, even seen a lot of buisness using satanic symbols as their business logo. Again, you may not see em as a big deal, its just a shirt. But it's only gonna get worst, and worst and worst, until people just start rocking full pledge demonic 666 and "hail satan" and then it will still be "just a shirt" etc.

                  But to answer you question, what has the illuminati did to the world? Basically Manipulate it. Keep in mind the illuminati etc, they be using satanic powers and what not, conjuring demons all that kinda of stuff. Believe it if you want, doesnt really matter. Illuminati has just became a joke now, the word anyways. I wouldnt expect you to believe me.


                  Originally posted by Vocker View Post
                  Jesus is not a god lol. Jesus didn't write the Bible lol.


                  I can also say Big Bang theory and Evolution are stories that is made up by a couple of scientists that were smoking crack.

                  Just like how any scifi movie is made up lol.



                  Same shit, different toilet.

                  See, I don't know where you get that from. Jesus is not a god? Jesus IS God bro lol. Its called the trintity, God, Jesus and the holy spirit.
                  God in 3 forms.



                  Originally posted by MarkoMaxX View Post
                  There are proofs for Big Bang Theory and the theory of evolution. Strong proofs.

                  There are no proofs of any crap written in Bible. There is not a proof of Jesus being a son of God.
                  Where are the strong proofs? Where are the strong proofs that this world came from NOTHING.

                  How can SOMETHIGN come from NOTHIGN. is it nor easier to believe that SOMETHIGN made SOMETHING else?

                  so one day, a big boom happen and where all here? cme on bruh.




                  Originally posted by YoungTunechie View Post
                  What if there is another universe out there that has a planet similar to earth, with human beings and everything. Do you think they would be further advanced or would we be further advanced in technology?
                  You could go on and on about your wonders of the universe, no one knows.

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                  • #57
                    Originally posted by KidComet View Post
                    Where are the strong proofs? Where are the strong proofs that this world came from NOTHING.

                    How can SOMETHIGN come from NOTHIGN. is it nor easier to believe that SOMETHIGN made SOMETHING else?

                    so one day, a big boom happen and where all here? cme on bruh.
                    It's not about whats easier to believe, it's about what is correct and truth. If you are believing in everything that is easy to believe then you are honestly blind.

                    Big Bang Theory never says that something came from nothing.
                    It says that something came from something.
                    The Big Bang is the beggining of this universe. And it was created from something. That something could be another universe or just a tiny little speck of very dense energy from which all the energy/matter of this universe arose.
                    Nothing does not exist in our world.
                    But lets say it does.

                    Who created God? Was he created from nothing? How can God be created from nothing?


                    Science has the answers, you just need to look for them.

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                    • #58
                      People are still fighting?
                      Originally posted by Shake
                      Why so negative all the time???

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                      • #59
                        Originally posted by MarkoMaxX View Post
                        It's not about whats easier to believe, it's about what is correct and truth. If you are believing in everything that is easy to believe then you are honestly blind.

                        Big Bang Theory never says that something came from nothing.
                        It says that something came from something.
                        The Big Bang is the beggining of this universe. And it was created from something. That something could be another universe or just a tiny little speck of very dense energy from which all the energy/matter of this universe arose.
                        Nothing does not exist in our world.
                        But lets say it does.

                        Who created God? Was he created from nothing? How can God be created from nothing?


                        Science has the answers, you just need to look for them.
                        The thing is I NEVER believed in God tho, so its not like I was easily tricked into it or something like that. I hated GOd and Church. My mom would always force me into church, and going to youth groups, I would see all these kids worhipping God, jumping up and singing, i was like wth is that? Those guys are lame. It took nearly 7 years for me to go thru a change one night where I had to literally cry out to God, I didnt even know wth I was getting myself into,



                        God has no creator, cause God is God.
                        Now don't lose me here.

                        A common argument from atheists and skeptics is that if all things need a cause, then God must also need a cause. The conclusion is that if God needed a cause, then God is not God (and if God is not God, then of course there is no God). This is a slightly more sophisticated form of the basic question “Who made God?” Everyone knows that something does not come from nothing. So, if God is a “something,” then He must have a cause, right?

                        The question is tricky cuz it sneaks in the false assumption that God came from somewhere and then asks where that might be. The answer is that the question does not even make sense. It is like asking, “What does blue smell like?” Blue is not in the category of things that have a smell, so the question itself is flawed. In the same way, God is not in the category of things that are created or caused. God is uncaused and uncreated man... He simply exists.


                        How do we know this? We know that from nothing, nothing comes. So, if there were ever a time when there was absolutely nothing in existence, then nothing would have ever come into existence. But things do exist. Therefore, since there could never have been absolutely nothing, something had to have always been in existence. That ever-existing thing is what we call God. God is the uncaused Being that caused everything else to come into existence. God is the uncreated Creator who created the universe and everything in it.


                        Believe it or not. Its really up to you, but to say that this world became like this because some other universe's energy's dust exploded and created the world or whatever?
                        Is it not easier to believe that there was a God that created this universe?

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                        Originally posted by Vocker View Post
                        People are still fighting?
                        No one is fighting?
                        Last edited by KidComet; 06-25-2013, 07:09 AM.

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                        • #60
                          Originally posted by KidComet View Post
                          The thing is I NEVER believed in God tho, so its not like I was easily tricked into it or something like that. I hated GOd and Church. My mom would always force me into church, and going to youth groups, I would see all these kids worhipping God, jumping up and singing, i was like wth is that? Those guys are lame. It took nearly 7 years for me to go thru a change one night where I had to literally cry out to God, I didnt even know wth I was getting myself into,



                          God has no creator, cause God is God.
                          Now don't lose me here.

                          A common argument from atheists and skeptics is that if all things need a cause, then God must also need a cause. The conclusion is that if God needed a cause, then God is not God (and if God is not God, then of course there is no God). This is a slightly more sophisticated form of the basic question “Who made God?” Everyone knows that something does not come from nothing. So, if God is a “something,” then He must have a cause, right?

                          The question is tricky cuz it sneaks in the false assumption that God came from somewhere and then asks where that might be. The answer is that the question does not even make sense. It is like asking, “What does blue smell like?” Blue is not in the category of things that have a smell, so the question itself is flawed. In the same way, God is not in the category of things that are created or caused. God is uncaused and uncreated man... He simply exists.


                          How do we know this? We know that from nothing, nothing comes. So, if there were ever a time when there was absolutely nothing in existence, then nothing would have ever come into existence. But things do exist. Therefore, since there could never have been absolutely nothing, something had to have always been in existence. That ever-existing thing is what we call God. God is the uncaused Being that caused everything else to come into existence. God is the uncreated Creator who created the universe and everything in it.


                          Believe it or not. Its really up to you, but to say that this world became like this because some other universe's energy's dust exploded and created the world or whatever?
                          Is it not easier to believe that there was a God that created this universe?

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                          No one is fighting?
                          Very nice.

                          That tiny particle can also be named God.
                          You can name it however you want.
                          But that tiny particle did not explode. Big Bang doesn't mean explosion. It emerged and grew overtime and is still growing each and every second. We are still in the Big Bang procces. Don't underestimate the power of energy.


                          It's obvious that we have different views.
                          I respect yours and you showed that you are familiar with your subject and you know what you are talking about.
                          Just like I do.

                          Originally posted by Vocker View Post
                          People are still fighting?
                          It's not a fight. It's just an healthy argument.

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