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Originally posted by Lil wayne prezident View Postok so what are u trying to say?
"its not the video game that makes them do it, its their parents who brought them the gammmme"
So I responded with that a negative video game, or anythign that promotes violence, and evil to people, isn't positive for their lives
but you guys read it as "EVERYONE WHO PLAYS THIS GAME WILL BECOME A MURDERER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Originally posted by KidComet View Post"You have to be a certain type of mentally fucked up to do some shit like that"
To do shit like what?
Rob a person? You think every crime committed was committed by a mentally fucked up person? Lol, nah homie, most of the time the person was influenced to do so.
The media is said to be the 4th branch of government, that is how influential it is in our DAILY lives.
You really think a person's past is nearly as influential as the daily influence they get from the media?
And by Media, i don't mean the news btw.
That bold part needs more elaboration please.
And i am saying that wouldn't these shooting, killings, and crimes be a good output to blame 1: Guns (our second amendment), which in fact would take our rights away. and 2: music and video games, a major pastime of a large amount of people, including me. If they can get people to believe that guns are bad, then why don't we just outlaw guns?
If we agree that video games cause killings, why dont we just outlaw the bad ones?
If buildings are being attacked by hostage airplanes, why dont we just add more "security" in our airports, and to everyones life?
Stuff like that, if i believed in such then that would be a good idea, would it not?
The guy that killed those 25 or so children in Connecticut children was mentally messed up, he was not normal, it was not a game, it was not music, it was not the media. He was just fucked up. He would burn shit into his dick and armpits...weird ass guy.
And lets not forget the prescription drugs he was on.
I listen to wayne, and i dont wanna drink lean, shits fucking horrible for you.Originally posted by dametri426nigga jay z lips are average sizeOriginally posted by WaynasiteHave you never practiced putting a condom on and masturbating with it on so that when that time comes you won't be a fail
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u cant blame nobody but the parents....
it aint the game fault
its yo mama and dem fault for lettin u smoke weed wen u 14 and 15
lettin u fuck in the house
lettin u skip and drop outta school
lettin u run the streets all night
leavin u in the house the whole weekend by yo self jus so she can go trick wit des niggaz
u cant never blame the game for shit lik dat.
video games and movies and music and all dat get it from the environment so if it wasnt stupid ass parents runnin around not teachin they kids shit, den it wouldn be a grand theft auto
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Originally posted by TinyPenisProductions View PostNo i am saying to see an animated image, and bring it into your own life, and do so to a living person. You gotta be mentally scared or "fucked".
And i am saying that wouldn't these shooting, killings, and crimes be a good output to blame 1: Guns (our second amendment), which in fact would take our rights away. and 2: music and video games, a major pastime of a large amount of people, including me. If they can get people to believe that guns are bad, then why don't we just outlaw guns?
If we agree that video games cause killings, why dont we just outlaw the bad ones?
If buildings are being attacked by hostage airplanes, why dont we just add more "security" in our airports, and to everyones life?
Stuff like that, if i believed in such then that would be a good idea, would it not?
The guy that killed those 25 or so children in Connecticut children was mentally messed up, he was not normal, it was not a game, it was not music, it was not the media. He was just fucked up. He would burn shit into his dick and armpits...weird ass guy.
And lets not forget the prescription drugs he was on.
I listen to wayne, and i dont wanna drink lean, shits fucking horrible for you.
Damn dude, your not really getting what Im saying man, Your thinking of ONLY killing, of ONLY shooting people,
All im saying is negative influence leads to negative actions,
Thats all I said, I didn;t say anything about this game or video games causes people to shoot schools and stuff.
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Originally posted by KidComet View PostDamn dude, your not really getting what Im saying man, Your thinking of ONLY killing, of ONLY shooting people,
All im saying is negative influence leads to negative actions,
Thats all I said, I didn;t say anything about this game or video games causes people to shoot schools and stuff.Originally posted by dametri426nigga jay z lips are average sizeOriginally posted by WaynasiteHave you never practiced putting a condom on and masturbating with it on so that when that time comes you won't be a fail
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Originally posted by TinyPenisProductions View PostNo no no, i dont think that you think that, i am putting everything into somewhat of a proportion that way you can realize the negative people do negative things. Games are just games, and music is just music.
Okay music is just music, music has no influence on peoples minds, music doesnt change peoples attitudes, people don't listen to music to "turn up"
People don't listen to music to get into the mood,
Music has absoulety no efffect on the brain
lol come on bro.
Oh you listen to wayne and dont do syrup? Congrazt bro, clap for you
Do you live in the hood or a nice neighboorhood?
Do you know what its like for a kid to grow up without a dad and look up to a rapper as a role model, and to hear him rap about selling crack to get to the position where he is today,
do you know what its like to live in a 1 bedroom apartment with roaches running everywhere, and not knowing how to make ends meet, and have no idea about how to make a decent dollar,
but these rappers say they sold crack and they made it out the hood and now their in a mansion, let me try that, see if that works, it must work right?
boom jailed for 5 years, government collects 20,000 per 4 years he's in jail, boom
this ish has been happening for the pastt 20 years manLast edited by KidComet; 09-20-2013, 07:54 PM.
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Originally posted by KidComet View PostOkay music is just music, music has no influence on peoples minds, music doesnt change peoples attitudes, people don't listen to music to "turn up"
People don't listen to music to get into the mood,
Music has absoulety no efffect on the brain
lol come on bro.
Oh you listen to wayne and do do syrup? Congrazt bro, clap for you
Do you live in the hood or a nice neighboorhood?
Do you know what its like for a kid to grow up without a dad and look up to a rapper as a role model, and to hear him rap about selling crack to get to the position where he is today,
do you know what its like to live in a 1 bedroom apartment with roaches running everywhere, and not knowing how to make ends meet, and have no idea about how to make a decent dollar,
but these rappers say they sold crack and they made it out the hood and now their in a mansion, let me try that, see if that works, it must work right?
boom jailed for 5 years, government collects 20,000 per 4 years he's in jail, boom
this ish has been happening for the pastt 20 years man
I don't drink lean tho, i just said that. Or is that just a typo? anyway...
This might be confusing so imma try to like code this with italics and underlines:
Neither, i live in the middle of nowhere but lets just say nice neighborhood. James Holmes almost had a doctorate and lived in a nice apartment.
Fathers fault it changes and alters the poor kids life drastically, the person that did that scared and made the kid live worse. IT is still the kids fault if he lives a negative way, but not near as much as the fathers.
The person that lives in the apartment is living a negative life already, but lets say that the person lives in a middle class family that gets to eat 3 meals a day. And listens to some wayne, plays some gta, etc.. Will he act the same? No. Because he is not surround by negativity, so he will not act negatively.
I'm not disagreeing that music affects people, but it depends on who the person is they will be affected by anything...and anything. Music and Video Games, violence, guns, just the easy output. But drugs and parents are the real problems.Originally posted by dametri426nigga jay z lips are average sizeOriginally posted by WaynasiteHave you never practiced putting a condom on and masturbating with it on so that when that time comes you won't be a fail
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Originally posted by TinyPenisProductions View PostNah music affects you, but it wont make you do the crazy shit that we are talking about.
I don't drink lean tho, i just said that. Or is that just a typo? anyway...
This might be confusing so imma try to like code this with italics and underlines:
Neither, i live in the middle of nowhere but lets just say nice neighborhood. James Holmes almost had a doctorate and lived in a nice apartment.
Fathers fault it changes and alters the poor kids life drastically, the person that did that scared and made the kid live worse. IT is still the kids fault if he lives a negative way, but not near as much as the fathers.
The person that lives in the apartment is living a negative life already, but lets say that the person lives in a middle class family that gets to eat 3 meals a day. And listens to some wayne, plays some gta, etc.. Will he act the same? No. Because he is not surround by negativity, so he will not act negatively.
I'm not disagreeing that music affects people, but it depends on who the person is they will be affected by anything...and anything. Music and Video Games, violence, guns, just the easy output. But drugs and parents are the real problems.
If wayne offered you a sip from his cup, you know you wouldnt be strong enough to say no though.
You say drugs are the real problems.... but who promotes these drugs to society? Rappers. Lol come on man
Molly wasnt even popping off until it started getting promoted through music,and how many overdosed on that lol.
Negative music does effect people to an extent, Im not saying, if YOU(tinypenisproduction) jam wayne,your gonna become sometype of killer or sometype of drug addict.
But society shows man, that the higher percantage of society imulate the BEHAVIOR they see on the screen, or hear in the songs.
Watching violent movies, playing violent games that promote drugs, sex, violence,
Listening to music that promote drug abuse, sex, womizing, violence,
All of that stuff, definitely 100% dont do anything positive for us...
So if its not positive... what is it.?
Heres an article about the subject its kinda long, so ill put it in the a spoiler, you can read it if you want i would like to see ur response to it though
SPOILERTeenagers listen to an average of nearly 2.5 hours of music per day. Guess what they’re hearing about?
One in three popular songs contains explicit references to drug or alcohol use, according to a new report in The Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine. That means kids are receiving about 35 references to substance abuse for every hour of music they listen to, the authors determined.
While songs about drugs and excess are nothing new, the issue is getting more attention because so many children now have regular access to music out of the earshot of parents. Nearly 9 out of 10 adolescents and teens have an MP3 player or a compact disc player in their bedrooms.
Studies have long shown that media messages have a pronounced impact on childhood risk behaviors. Exposure to images of smoking in movies influences a child’s risk for picking up the habit. Alcohol use in movies and promotions is also linked to actual alcohol use.
Researchers from the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine studied the 279 most popular songs from 2005, based on reports from Billboard magazine, which tracks popular music. Whether a song contained a reference to drugs or alcohol varied by genre. Only 9 percent of pop songs had lyrics relating to drugs or alcohol. The number jumped to 14 percent for rock songs, 20 percent for R&B and hip-hop songs, 36 percent for country songs and 77 percent for rap songs.
Notably, smoking references aren’t that common in music today, with only 3 percent of the songs portraying tobacco use. About 14 percent of songs spoke of marijuana use, 24 percent depicted alcohol use, and another 12 percent included reference to other substances. About 4 percent of the songs contained “anti” drug and alcohol messages.
The study authors noted that music represents a pervasive source of exposure to positive images of substance use. The average adolescent is exposed to approximately 84 references to explicit substance use per day and 591 references per week, or 30,732 references per year. The average adolescent listening only to pop would be exposed to 5 references per day, whereas the average adolescent who listens just to rap would be exposed to 251 references per day.
Whether any of this matters remains an open question. While the impact of exposure to images of smoking and alcohol in film has been well documented, less is known about the effect of music on childhood risk behaviors.
Although music lacks the visual element of film, adolescent exposure to music is much more frequent, accounting for an average of 16 hours each week for music compared with about 6 hours each week for movie images, according to the study authors. But frequency of exposure is not the only factor. Unlike visual media, music is a powerful social force that also taps into an individual’s personal identity, memories and mood.
“Music is well-known to connect deeply with adolescents and to influence identity development, perhaps more than any other entertainment medium,” said the study authors.
and heres a poll asking debate.org is a pretyy popular site
http://www.debate.org/opinions/does-...ce-on-children
more than half agree
you may be blind by the love you have for music to actually see the evil that it does to society, if this was 1 year ago, and someone came on this forum saying music is negative, hell i would disagree too, but Jesus replaced the love I had for music, and I wouldnt trade it for anythingLast edited by KidComet; 09-20-2013, 08:26 PM.
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Originally posted by KidComet View PostYeah that was a typo my bad, I meant to say "dont do lean"
If wayne offered you a sip from his cup, you know you wouldnt be strong enough to say no though.
You say drugs are the real problems.... but who promotes these drugs to society? Rappers. Lol come on man
Molly wasnt even popping off until it started getting promoted through music,and how many overdosed on that lol.
Negative music does effect people to an extent, Im not saying, if YOU(tinypenisproduction) jam wayne,your gonna become sometype of killer or sometype of drug addict.
But society shows man, that the higher percantage of society imulate the BEHAVIOR they see on the screen, or hear in the songs.
Watching violent movies, playing violent games that promote drugs, sex, violence,
Listening to music that promote drug abuse, sex, womizing, violence,
All of that stuff, definitely 100% dont do anything positive for us...
So if its not positive... what is it.?
Heres an article about the subject its kinda long, so ill put it in the a spoiler, you can read it if you want i would like to see ur response to it though
SPOILERTeenagers listen to an average of nearly 2.5 hours of music per day. Guess what they’re hearing about?
One in three popular songs contains explicit references to drug or alcohol use, according to a new report in The Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine. That means kids are receiving about 35 references to substance abuse for every hour of music they listen to, the authors determined.
While songs about drugs and excess are nothing new, the issue is getting more attention because so many children now have regular access to music out of the earshot of parents. Nearly 9 out of 10 adolescents and teens have an MP3 player or a compact disc player in their bedrooms.
Studies have long shown that media messages have a pronounced impact on childhood risk behaviors. Exposure to images of smoking in movies influences a child’s risk for picking up the habit. Alcohol use in movies and promotions is also linked to actual alcohol use.
Researchers from the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine studied the 279 most popular songs from 2005, based on reports from Billboard magazine, which tracks popular music. Whether a song contained a reference to drugs or alcohol varied by genre. Only 9 percent of pop songs had lyrics relating to drugs or alcohol. The number jumped to 14 percent for rock songs, 20 percent for R&B and hip-hop songs, 36 percent for country songs and 77 percent for rap songs.
Notably, smoking references aren’t that common in music today, with only 3 percent of the songs portraying tobacco use. About 14 percent of songs spoke of marijuana use, 24 percent depicted alcohol use, and another 12 percent included reference to other substances. About 4 percent of the songs contained “anti” drug and alcohol messages.
The study authors noted that music represents a pervasive source of exposure to positive images of substance use. The average adolescent is exposed to approximately 84 references to explicit substance use per day and 591 references per week, or 30,732 references per year. The average adolescent listening only to pop would be exposed to 5 references per day, whereas the average adolescent who listens just to rap would be exposed to 251 references per day.
Whether any of this matters remains an open question. While the impact of exposure to images of smoking and alcohol in film has been well documented, less is known about the effect of music on childhood risk behaviors.
Although music lacks the visual element of film, adolescent exposure to music is much more frequent, accounting for an average of 16 hours each week for music compared with about 6 hours each week for movie images, according to the study authors. But frequency of exposure is not the only factor. Unlike visual media, music is a powerful social force that also taps into an individual’s personal identity, memories and mood.
“Music is well-known to connect deeply with adolescents and to influence identity development, perhaps more than any other entertainment medium,” said the study authors.
and heres a poll asking debate.org is a pretyy popular site
Does modern rap and pop music have a negative influence on children? | Debate.org
more than half agree
you may be blind by the love you have for music to actually see the evil that it does to society, if this was 1 year ago, and someone came on this forum saying music is negative, hell i would disagree too, but Jesus replaced the love I had for music, and I wouldnt trade it for anything
Im not talking about drugs such as crack, meth, or heroin. I'm talking prescription anti depressants and psychotics.
If you are so far into "conspiracies" Then do some research on prescription drugs, and see how a large amount of people(prolly more than 50%) that does mass killings (extreme) and lower acts of violence were in fact on prescription drugs.
And i would disagree, music has helped me. For sure. Call me Sportz but it helps me in school, it gives me stuff to do, and look because of music i am having an intelligent conversation about bigger matters.
Oh and the article, i read it all. But i don't like reading articles because of the biased they have, even if it is informative. So i wont make any judgment upon that.Originally posted by dametri426nigga jay z lips are average sizeOriginally posted by WaynasiteHave you never practiced putting a condom on and masturbating with it on so that when that time comes you won't be a fail
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