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so people who think about enslaving and killing people should be threated the same way like people who prefer peace ?

I don't quite see your logic sorry


y'all must be dumb as fuck.. literally dumb as fuck to write shit like that lol
I know that one should tolerance anothers opinion and stuff but I also don't respect dogshit so sorry
Gotta clean my eyes from the shit I read

I'm done posting in this thread.

[nickiminajsitonmyface]

I think the general point is that, look at the state of the world with these old religions. Where have they gotten us?

[Flame Beats]

There has to be consequences for negative actions. Also you defend Satan so much but little do you know he thinks your weak as eff and constantly trys to deceive you clearly it worked.




that would be dumb because Allah and God are the exact same being, Islam is merely a extension of Christianity.

Americans are dumb though...I've met these people.

[KidComet]

Did you hear about the fanatic Christians who burned qurans the other day and showed the prophet Muhammed as a demon?

did you hear about the Christians in India who slaughtered an entire Muslim village?

human life is considered as a sacred thing in islam and is constantly spoken about.

…if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.” [Al-Qur’an 5:32]

here is some more information on violence in islam have a read before you talk.

“Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.” [Al-Qur’an 2:190-191]



It is a well-known fact of Islamic history, that fighting against aggressors was prohibited during the first thirteen years of the Prophet’s mission. After Muslims migrated to Medina, the verses above were revealed to enable the community to fight in self-defense. The verses that follow clearly indicate Islam’s prohibition on aggression and inclination towards peace:


“But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.” [Al-Qur’an 2:192-193]


The verses above specifically refer to fighting against oppression and in defense of religious freedom as the Glorious Qur’an says:


“Let there be no compulsion in religion” [Al-Qur’an 2:256



oh yeah and where was that poor woman killed? in SUDAN literally a poverty stricken anarchy runned country all kinds of messed up shit happens there its not Islam it's poverty and lack of education.

The Quran even allows a Muslim man to marry a Christian or Jew! if we were so against other religions why would it be permissible to marry and commit to one?

Google search



"Christians Murder Muslims"


and look at how many articles on "Muslims murdering/slaughtering christians" come up instead,



The quaran, directly tells Muslims to murder people who dont believe, and evidently, they listen,


Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:2Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies(22:19)Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:2Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

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Where in the Bible does it say to kill people for not converting to Christianity?
Spanish Inquisition


Also why doesn't God kill Satan and send everyone to heaven? He created him, why not destroy him?

I never said the bible said that


And Even after answering that question you wont be satisfied with the answer,

http://www.gotquestions.org/God-vs-Satan.html

[nickiminajsitonmyface]

KC making sure he's up at 4:15 AM to recite Bible verses at the local church.

[Zimmie]

Google search



"Christians Murder Muslims"


and look at how many articles on "Muslims murdering/slaughtering christians" come up instead,



The quaran, directly tells Muslims to murder people who dont believe, and evidently, they listen,


Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:2Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies(22:19)Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:2Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

those aren't even real verses you dickhead search them up

and what exactly are the USA? there a representative for Christians and they have been bombing the shit out of Muslim countrys for years! they even gave Jews Muslim land just for the sake of it the Quran CLEARLY states to DEFEND not to WAGE war.

btw the KKK were a extremist Christian group have you forgotten?

verse (22.19)

Surat Al-Haj [22:19] - The Noble Qur'an - ?????? ??????

clearly discussing those who disbelieve and will be sent to hell EG. ATHEISTS
exactly the same has it is in the Bible!

verse (5.33)

Surat Al-Ma'idah [5:33] - The Noble Qur'an - ?????? ??????


clearly discussing DEFENCE the verse says if they attack we have the right to attack back just not in the nicest words VERY similar to the bible


Search each of those verses and you'll see that those don't even exist in the quran!

"neighbourhood" i can guarantee that word is not in the quran at all.

[KidComet]

those aren't even real verses you dickhead search them up

and what exactly are the USA? there a representative for Christians and they have been bombing the shit out of Muslim countrys for years! they even gave Jews Muslim land just for the sake of it the Quran CLEARLY states to DEFEND not to WAGE war.

btw the KKK were a extremist Christian group have you forgotten?

verse (22.19)

Surat Al-Haj [22:19] - The Noble Qur'an - ?????? ??????

clearly discussing those who disbelieve and will be sent to hell EG. ATHEISTS
exactly the same has it is in the Bible!

verse (5.33)

Surat Al-Ma'idah [5:33] - The Noble Qur'an - ?????? ??????


clearly discussing DEFENCE the verse says if they attack we have the right to attack back just not in the nicest words VERY similar to the bible


Search each of those verses and you'll see that those don't even exist in the quran!

"neighbourhood" i can guarantee that word is not in the quran at all.

These are real verses, must be a different translation, the quaran tells muslims to kill people who dont convert to islam, in direct words.


And thw Quaran may say to defend not to wage war, but it also says to kill people who dont convert to islam, its halfway peaceful to trick and decieve and then the other half is full of violence promotion



And if you think the KKK were actual Christians, bible believing, God-fearing, Chrisitans, then I don't know what to tell you really.
Thats the same with the westbrook baptist church people, claiming to be chrisitians but then spreading hate,
Your not a christian, if your spreading hate, saying God hates Fags, God hates ni**ers, i dont care what they label themselves as a group, Chrisitanity doesnt tell them to do that whatsoever,

however, the quaran directly tells muslims to murder and kill



The USA is the representative for Christians? Really? Man...
The USA has been trying to kick God outta this country little by little systematically for years



Im not even sure why you are defending the islam religion so much, These people have been running around for years killing people in the name of their religion, even till today.



As for those verse once again, I googled them, and they do come up, so i dnt know why u say they are fake fore

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KC making sure he's up at 4:15 AM to recite Bible verses at the local church.

Got harness the power that you have yet to find

[Flame Beats]

These are real verses, must be a different translation, the quaran tells muslims to kill people who dont convert to islam, in direct words.


And thw Quaran may say to defend not to wage war, but it also says to kill people who dont convert to islam, its halfway peaceful to trick and decieve and then the other half is full of violence promotion



And if you think the KKK were actual Christians, bible believing, God-fearing, Chrisitans, then I don't know what to tell you really.
Thats the same with the westbrook baptist church people, claiming to be chrisitians but then spreading hate,
Your not a christian, if your spreading hate, saying God hates Fags, God hates ni**ers, i dont care what they label themselves as a group, Chrisitanity doesnt tell them to do that whatsoever,

however, the quaran directly tells muslims to murder and kill



The USA is the representative for Christians? Really? Man...
The USA has been trying to kick God outta this country little by little systematically for years



Im not even sure why you are defending the islam religion so much, These people have been running around for years killing people in the name of their religion, even till today.



As for those verse once again, I googled them, and they do come up, so i dnt know why u say they are fake fore

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Got harness the power that you have yet to find

Then these Muslims fall into that same group with KKK and WBC.

A poorly translated version of their scripture or bad interpretation.

[KidComet]

Then these Muslims fall into that same group with KKK and WBC.

A poorly translated version of their scripture or bad interpretation.

There is no bad intepretation when it comes to the KK or WBC, they do it because they are on Satans side and want to make christians look bad,

[nickiminajsitonmyface]

God is 100% right and Satan is 100% wrong and evil, no matter what.

[Zimmie]

These are real verses, must be a different translation, the quaran tells muslims to kill people who dont convert to islam, in direct words.


And thw Quaran may say to defend not to wage war, but it also says to kill people who dont convert to islam, its halfway peaceful to trick and decieve and then the other half is full of violence promotion



And if you think the KKK were actual Christians, bible believing, God-fearing, Chrisitans, then I don't know what to tell you really.
Thats the same with the westbrook baptist church people, claiming to be chrisitians but then spreading hate,
Your not a christian, if your spreading hate, saying God hates Fags, God hates ni**ers, i dont care what they label themselves as a group, Chrisitanity doesnt tell them to do that whatsoever,

however, the quaran directly tells muslims to murder and kill



The USA is the representative for Christians? Really? Man...
The USA has been trying to kick God outta this country little by little systematically for years



Im not even sure why you are defending the islam religion so much, These people have been running around for years killing people in the name of their religion, even till today.



As for those verse once again, I googled them, and they do come up, so i dnt know why u say they are fake fore

I'm a Muslim and i know for a FACT those verses are not in the Quran it is just propaganda from misguided people you claim to be all enlightened and know your stuff about the news and religions and all and you really buy to the fact that Muslims kill everyone? WTF is that bullshit if soldiers came into your country and dig out your soil for greed and money then rape your women and then try to change your way of life wouldn't you wage war using guerilla tactics especially if your countries armies are corrupt as f and have no stability? the media then flips thiss over and shows the lunatics that unfortunately have to represent my religion who to put it into perspective are the red necks of the Islamic religion! I'm a Muslim and i have NOTHING against Christian people neither have any of my ancestors.

You cant give me one verse in the Quran that explicitly says to go out and murder people directly you say you google this you google that then SEND me your sources because there misleading and wrong i've studied the Quran and have visited Mosques and have heard the imam speak and i KNOW neither he or the Quran say to 'Murder the infidels!' and all that trash its false,misguided,misunderstood propaganda!

here this is what we Muslims have to deal with constantly

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What we don't have the right to defend ourselves? i mean shit man you really have a horrible perception on the Islamic religion and its sad as f because i welcome and respect all philosophy's of life Christian,Jewish,Buddhist,Atheism you name it!

Look ill tell you now a real Muslim doesn't go out and bomb buildings and force there beliefs on others don't make such a disgusting generalisation the Quran states to defend both your honour and that of a fellow Muslim and family member and to then live in peace with god in your life it explicitly states that it is Haram eg. ILLEGAL and WRONG to murder or take the life of another human we even have restrictions on how we kill animals!

unfortunately we have horrible people representing us and i don't blame your perception! but please do not hold such a negative generalisation!

to quote Immortal Technique

"Read for yourself instead of asking the government why"

READ for yourself instead of looking at misguided translations!

[KidComet]

I'm a Muslim and i know for a FACT those verses are not in the Quran it is just propaganda from misguided people you claim to be all enlightened and know your stuff about the news and religions and all and you really buy to the fact that Muslims kill everyone? WTF is that bullshit if soldiers came into your country and dig out your soil for greed and money then rape your women and then try to change your way of life wouldn't you wage war using guerilla tactics especially if your countries armies are corrupt as f and have no stability? the media then flips thiss over and shows the lunatics that unfortunately have to represent my religion who to put it into perspective are the red necks of the Islamic religion! I'm a Muslim and i have NOTHING against Christian people neither have any of my ancestors.

You cant give me one verse in the Quran that explicitly says to go out and murder people directly you say you google this you google that then SEND me your sources because there misleading and wrong i've studied the Quran and have visited Mosques and have heard the imam speak and i KNOW neither he or the Quran say to 'Murder the infidels!' and all that trash its false,misguided,misunderstood propaganda!

here this is what we Muslims have to deal with constantly

*WARNING SENSITIVE MATERIAL MAY BE DISTURBING TO SOME*

SPOILER









What we don't have the right to defend ourselves? i mean shit man you really have a horrible perception on the Islamic religion and its sad as f because i welcome and respect all philosophy's of life Christian,Jewish,Buddhist,Atheism you name it!

Look ill tell you now a real Muslim doesn't go out and bomb buildings and force there beliefs on others don't make such a disgusting generalisation the Quran states to defend both your honour and that of a fellow Muslim and family member and to then live in peace with god in your life it explicitly states that it is Haram eg. ILLEGAL and WRONG to murder or take the life of another human we even have restrictions on how we kill animals!

unfortunately we have horrible people representing us and i don't blame your perception! but please do not hold such a negative generalisation!

to quote Immortal Technique

"Read for yourself instead of asking the government why"

READ for yourself instead of looking at misguided translations!

Calm down Calm down,

I didn;t know you needed me to baby feed you the links for you at all, I thought you were a man capable of doing his own research, I suppose not.


Anyone can take a stance on a certain subject and make themselves look to be the victim in the circumstances like your doing, but the truth remains the truth based on the evidence given,

You say, "Are we not suppose to fight back??"


Exactly, you don;t fight back.

Fire can't fight fire, u make it worse

If islam was such a peaceful religion, why doesn't it teach you to turn the other cheek, like the bible does.
The bible teaches to love your enemies, to turn the other cheek, if you live by the sword, you die by the sword (Yes lil wayne got that from the bible)

You don't hear about Chrisitans blowing up and behading people, and killing women for not converting to Christianity,

Sudan judge sentences Christian woman to death for apostasy