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  • #85
    Originally posted by WeezySVK View Post
    Yeah that quote is nice but...In czech republic theres a muslim comunity thats trying to make the muslim law Sharia legall, that when a women is disloyal she will be stoned to death. Thats ok according to the Quran.

    Many experts also say that Europe can turn into an Islam continent in the next 20 years.
    ..
    Im not against muslims in Europe, but if they want to live here they should accept our culture, so no fully covered women and not build mosques everywhere...

    In some arabic countries if a christian comunity would try to build a church they would get killed but in Germany and other European countries are starting to be more mosques than churches...
    can you prove that it's ok according to the Quran? have you even read the Quran?

    honestly, i don't know about muslims outside arabic countries. why no fully covered women tho? they can wear whatever they want to, they aren't harming anyone.

    didn't you read what i just posted? muslims cannot kill an innocent human being, it's against our religion, and i'm sure they wouldn't get killed, because muslims do the same in european countries.

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    • #86
      [MENTION=87133]legendarytunechi[/MENTION] what do you think about the video of the Swedish politicians speech?

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      • #87
        Originally posted by MORO551 View Post
        Aight I admit the pic was a bit hateful & not really facts, but still because of immigrants(most from Islam countries)there are now areas in Sweden (&other countries where there are a lot of muslim immigrants) which native Swedes are really scared to go to, because of all the crime that happens in those areas with a lot of muslim immigrants. Ironically, the immigrants left their home countries for safer countries and are now actively trying to turn the countries they moved in unsafe.


        @legendarytunechi @Lil_zimmie
        he said foreigners, not islam, and honestly i don't believe this bullshit, my uncles live in sweden peacefully without doing any harm, and they don't say anything about this, but maybe there are terrorists there, and trying to ruin the country, just like they are trying to ruin arabic countries too.. i have said it before, they claim to be muslims.

        and i'm not saying all muslims are good, yes we have bad people just like every religion, like are you telling me all christians are good? how many muslims have christians killed? millions!! but you can't judge an entire religion by a group, just like we don't judge christianity by those people who are killing muslims and bombing arabic countries.

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        • #88
          Originally posted by WeezySVK View Post
          lol Fuck this shit im moving to Australia shoutout @Theonlydjorkaeff
          Come on over bro. Best country in the world!

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          • #89
            Originally posted by legendarytunechi View Post
            can you prove that it's ok according to the Quran? have you even read the Quran?

            honestly, i don't know about muslims outside arabic countries. why no fully covered women tho? they can wear whatever they want to, they aren't harming anyone.

            didn't you read what i just posted? muslims cannot kill an innocent human being, it's against our religion, and i'm sure they wouldn't get killed, because muslims do the same in european countries.
            I honestly havent read the Quran, just saw a bit from it sometimes on the net or so...

            As christians, muslims are also divided into more "radical" or less - hope you get what im sayin didnt find a better way to say it... so I guess not every muslim agrees with the sharia law

            Yeah the covered women are ok I guess, if they wear the hijab but seeing those totally fully covered in black and you can see only their eyes its just weird in Europe imo and I see no point in it ...

            I just hope that one day all religions can live together in peace
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            • #90
              Originally posted by legendarytunechi View Post
              he said foreigners, not islam, and honestly i don't believe this bullshit, my uncles live in sweden peacefully without doing any harm, and they don't say anything about this, but maybe there are terrorists there, and trying to ruin the country, just like they are trying to ruin arabic countries too.. i have said it before, they claim to be muslims.

              and i'm not saying all muslims are good, yes we have bad people just like every religion, like are you telling me all christians are good? how many muslims have christians killed? millions!! but you can't judge an entire religion by a group, just like we don't judge christianity by those people who are killing muslims and bombing arabic countries.
              the foreigners are almost all from islamic & 3rd world countries

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              • #91
                Originally posted by WeezySVK View Post
                I honestly havent read the Quran, just saw a bit from it sometimes on the net or so...

                As christians, muslims are also divided into more "radical" or less - hope you get what im sayin didnt find a better way to say it... so I guess not every muslim agrees with the sharia law

                Yeah the covered women are ok I guess, if they wear the hijab but seeing those totally fully covered in black and you can see only their eyes its just weird in Europe imo and I see no point in it ...

                I just hope that one day all religions can live together in peace
                then how do you know it's true? maybe some people are just tryna ruin it or something?

                and yeah i kinda agree, it's unnecessary to cover your entire body with black and show only your eyes, it's not even in the quran

                i hope so too man

                Originally posted by MORO551 View Post
                the foreigners are almost all from islamic & 3rd world countries
                aight mate, i guess this argument is getting pointless. believe whatever you wanna believe.

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                • #92
                  Shits fucked up.

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                  • #93
                    I think dressing like a $5 slut is worse than fully covering your body because of a religious denomination. Sloppy bitches, spreading diseases. Look at how many people in the U.S. alone have some sort of an STD, and they still go out and drink and fuck. Just one little example. And those people are suffering as a result, whether it'd be HIV or Herpes what have you. All because they couldn't control a little sexual tension, contributing again to the suffering of the human race.

                    So we are on the eve of being so divided. What stands to represent the "perfect" human being. I think it has absolutely nothing to do with how you dress or anything superficial such as that. I think it has to do with your views on the world and its culture and how you act amongst society.

                    These extremists who carried out these acts obviously held some sort of hostility towards the U.S. and the culture of us, coupled with a pride with Islam.

                    If we had a bunch of people who understood each other instead of hated, we would live in peace and harmony.

                    Look at it like an equation of some sort. If we keep keeping on with the ways of life right now and the current trends, we will always be suffering. But if we take radical actions and stand up, we can fix what is and has been broken for a long time.
                    Last edited by nickiminajsitonmyface; 01-09-2015, 08:00 PM.
                    המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים

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                    • #94
                      Originally posted by MORO551 View Post
                      Aight I admit the pic was a bit hateful & not really facts, but still because of immigrants(most from Islam countries)there are now areas in Sweden (&other countries where there are a lot of muslim immigrants) which native Swedes are really scared to go to, because of all the crime that happens in those areas with a lot of muslim immigrants. Ironically, the immigrants left their home countries for safer countries and are now actively trying to turn the countries they moved in unsafe.


                      @legendarytunechi @Lil_zimmie

                      yeah no doubt immigrants are normally not accustomed to the lifestyle that goes on in different countries that's nothing new so of course crime rates will soar. It's even happening here in Australia in my own neighborhood for that matter or whatever the thing is a lot of people come from Islamic countries and abandon there former ways of life in there former countries in favor for a drugs/alcohol/party lifestyle in an attempt to fit in.... i knew a Afghan guy here where i live who legit didn't show up for his exams cause he thought it was 'cool' these people are low on education in a weird foreign country they are bound to do stupid shit to fit in. I cant speak for Sweden since i don't live there but i have heard of the surge in crime and the development of lower class parts due to immigrants but that has nothing to do with the religion. No, it has to do with just poor education and a desperation to fit in if a war wasn't raging out there in the Middle East scattering these guys globally we wouldn't have a issue really there ways of life are different to ours and we need to accept that. Once i believe America gave some arms to the Iraq army ( i think it was that country no %100) and once they left occupation in a few parts the Islamic groups were put back in power BY THE PEOPLE. It's obvious the people living there dont care if they are in charge so why should we? why does America bomb innocent kids to enforce what they see as a ideal way of life? They paint islamic countries as full of hairy idiots who cant do anything except sit around and pray THAT IS NOT TRUE women are being treated as they are there atm ONLY BECAUSE OF THE WAR NOT BECAUSE IT SAYS IT IN THE QURAN women need to be covered head to toe and not let outside BECAUSE AMERICAN SOLDERS MAY MURDER THEM OR RAPE THEM IT SAYS TO PROTECT AND WALK WOMEN WHEN THEY ARE ALONE OUTSIDE WHICH IN WESTERN CULTURE IS GENERALLY SEEN AS A "gentlemanly act" HOWEVER if a person of islam does it its suddenly "OPPRESSION".

                      a lot of whats happening it being spun in circles there are many MANY towns in the middle east who live normal happy lives they dont show that to you because they need this war to continue this made America TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS they only show you potato recorded footage of buildings being blown up and shit but you know whats not spoken about that needs some attention English immigrants who have moved to say Bali/Thailand who marry young women and pretty much use them? why doesn't that get spoken about......

                      Anyway in regards to this shooting its absolutely horrifying and saddening and i pray that all the families recover in time and are allowed to mourn in peace these sick fanatic criminals shouldn't be aloud on our planet and our streets holding guns like they are play things the world is not a toy-box its temporary and needs to be appreciated not constantly destroyed.

                      The Islamic religion is not perfect no where near it it has contradictions and flaws just like everything and anything else but it is a belief and common people around us shouldn't be attacked for there beliefs of misleading direction people should be aloud to make there own minds via EDUCATION.

                      anyway peace to all you guys and i hope we can all pull through and i hope the world can one day be a beautiful peaceful place.

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                      Originally posted by WeezySVK View Post
                      I honestly havent read the Quran, just saw a bit from it sometimes on the net or so...

                      As christians, muslims are also divided into more "radical" or less - hope you get what im sayin didnt find a better way to say it... so I guess not every muslim agrees with the sharia law

                      Yeah the covered women are ok I guess, if they wear the hijab but seeing those totally fully covered in black and you can see only their eyes its just weird in Europe imo and I see no point in it ...

                      I just hope that one day all religions can live together in peace
                      the covered part is a choice i have a sister who has chosen to not wear one whilst i have many other cousins/auntys who have and some who haven't i know of no one being FORCED to wear it.

                      I think these ladies should be aloud to chose whatever they want to wear i mean come on if girls can wear crop tops and really shitty clothes THATS THERE CHOICE and there aloud to so should these women and they shouldn't be discriminated over it!




                      #FREEVELVET

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                      • #95
                        Originally posted by Lil_zimmie View Post
                        the covered part is a choice i have a sister who has chosen to not wear one whilst i have many other cousins/auntys who have and some who haven't i know of no one being FORCED to wear it.

                        I think these ladies should be aloud to chose whatever they want to wear i mean come on if girls can wear crop tops and really shitty clothes THATS THERE CHOICE and there aloud to so should these women and they shouldn't be discriminated over it!
                        Im not discriminating them, I have read now some articles bout it and some women say that they wear it in arabic countries of fears of beating up and cause its a sign of the male dominated society

                        Therefor I see no point in wearing it in Western countries, and I dont think the women who wear it all the time in any weather feel comfortable in it...
                        ...

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                        • #96
                          Originally posted by WeezySVK View Post
                          Im not discriminating them, I have read now some articles bout it and some women say that they wear it in arabic countries of fears of beating up and cause its a sign of the male dominated society

                          Therefor I see no point in wearing it in Western countries, and I dont think the women who wear it all the time in any weather feel comfortable in it...
                          some (so not all) women wear it because of fear in arabic countries, but still your asking yourself why would a woman wear it in europe. YOU dont find it right. well thats simple, They the ones who do cover themselves up do find it right and normal. IN europe the women dont have the fear like in some arab countries where they make the women wear the cover up wheter they want it or not. so that means in europe the ones who do cover theirselves do it out theirselves.
                          Let everyone do what they want and desire right? we dont have to find it the right thing or normal, but obviously they do find it normal and so they keep wearing it.
                          Hope i can make my point clear. its harder in english aha..
                          im muslim too btw.
                          "I can see God when I'm Squinting"

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