FR3SH Take: Why 'Tha Carter IV' Failed (REVIEW)

[Mr Xclusive]

Re: FR3SH Take: Why 'Tha Carter IV' Failed (REVIEW)

Holy shit.

It goes: C2 > C1 > C4 > C3

Mixtapes: Da Drought 3 > Dedication 2 > No Ceilings > S4TW > Dedication 3. (Not counting the Sqad Up mixtapes)

C4 is not better than C3



thats for damn sure

[Wisheezy]

Re: FR3SH Take: Why 'Tha Carter IV' Failed (REVIEW)

C2 > C3 > C1 > C4

Carter 2 was Wayne at his most hungry and lyrical. He wanted to prove himself as the "Best Rapper Alive" and went hard to prove it. Carter 3 while had a weird structure definitely showed massive diversity yet content was at the very much heart of the album (Katrina issues and other personal issues) this helped him to really show passion in his lyrics and songs which is why C3 is actually a great album.

C4 isn't bad but it's far from great. It's everything we knew Wayne would produce..recycling lyrics and song structures. We've heard the same punchlines so much we know every song is almost predictable now. That's why C4 is Wayne's worst carter album to date. Note I don't think it's a bad album though.

[Chobs]

Re: FR3SH Take: Why 'Tha Carter IV' Failed (REVIEW)

C2 > C3 > C1 > C4

Carter 2 was Wayne at his most hungry and lyrical. He wanted to prove himself as the "Best Rapper Alive" and went hard to prove it. Carter 3 while had a weird structure definitely showed massive diversity yet content was at the very much heart of the album (Katrina issues and other personal issues) this helped him to really show passion in his lyrics and songs which is why C3 is actually a great album.

C4 isn't bad but it's far from great. It's everything we knew Wayne would produce..recycling lyrics and song structures. We've heard the same punchlines so much we know every song is almost predictable now. That's why C4 is Wayne's worst carter album to date. Note I don't think it's a bad album though.

c4>c1 anyday...

[Cli-City]

Re: FR3SH Take: Why 'Tha Carter IV' Failed (REVIEW)

C2 > C3 > C1 > C4

Carter 2 was Wayne at his most hungry and lyrical. He wanted to prove himself as the "Best Rapper Alive" and went hard to prove it. Carter 3 while had a weird structure definitely showed massive diversity yet content was at the very much heart of the album (Katrina issues and other personal issues) this helped him to really show passion in his lyrics and songs which is why C3 is actually a great album.

C4 isn't bad but it's far from great. It's everything we knew Wayne would produce..recycling lyrics and song structures. We've heard the same punchlines so much we know every song is almost predictable now. That's why C4 is Wayne's worst carter album to date. Note I don't think it's a bad album though.

your gonna write that on Lil Wayne HQ...Annes get em....lol.....I agree with this though....i have listened to this album from since I downloaded it...i bought 3 copies but I still cant get into it...I guess its the repetition in the verses...( I think its the predictability and it didnt have any dope concepts on it.....)

[Wisheezy]

Re: FR3SH Take: Why 'Tha Carter IV' Failed (REVIEW)

your gonna write that on Lil Wayne HQ...Annes get em....lol.....I agree with this though....i have listened to this album from since I downloaded it...i bought 3 copies but I still cant get into it...I guess its the repetition in the verses...( I think its the predictability and it didnt have any dope concepts on it.....)

Ha Anne's can get at me but they all know I'm a massive fan. I'm not hating just stating my honest opinion. I'm still a huge Wayne fan and probably always be. Just sometimes it's best to be open minded and not dick ride everything Wayne does because that's not a real fan. That's some bias love affair

[Cli-City]

Re: FR3SH Take: Why 'Tha Carter IV' Failed (REVIEW)

Ha Anne's can get at me but they all know I'm a massive fan. I'm not hating just stating my honest opinion. I'm still a huge Wayne fan and probably always be. Just sometimes it's best to be open minded and not dick ride everything Wayne does because that's not a real fan. That's some bias love affair

Well some people in here....Wayne can come out in a dress at a tour, and they gonna say.." Wayne is rich he can do what he wants..." its a brainwash to an extent...sorta like those idiot Jay Z fans that bought a copy of Tha Carter IV just to burn it...

[Sidious]

Re: FR3SH Take: Why 'Tha Carter IV' Failed (REVIEW)

This album shits on C3...even with the punchline templates...honestly don't respect the opinion of anybody that disagrees....he's just flat out rapping better...the biggest difference now is that Wayne is at a different point in his career...C3 was a culmination of his epic run that started with C1 and brought him to the undisputed top of the game with the release of C3...while C4 was released at the peak of his backlash, because popularity breeds resentment and hate and people just getting tired of him...the same type lines people are obsessing over on C4 as being "OMG THIS IS THE WACKEST THING EVER" were all over Drought 3, and were getting heralded...Basically, it's an album full of "mixtape Wayne"...after Rebirth and the autotune era, he made the decision to put out an album focused on just him spitting..he did it, and i'm loving it

[Cli-City]

Re: FR3SH Take: Why 'Tha Carter IV' Failed (REVIEW)

This album shits on C3...even with the punchline templates...honestly don't respect the opinion of anybody that disagrees....he's just flat out rapping better...the biggest difference now is that Wayne is at a different point in his career...C3 was a culmination of his epic run that started with C1 and brought him to the undisputed top of the game with the release of C3...while C4 was released at the peak of his backlash, because popularity breeds resentment and hate and people just getting tired of him...the same type lines people are obsessing over on C4 as being "OMG THIS IS THE WACKEST THING EVER" were all over Drought 3, and were getting heralded...Basically, it's an album full of "mixtape Wayne"...after Rebirth and the autotune era, he made the decision to put out an album focused on just him spitting..he did it, and i'm loving it

Stop contradicting yourself....dude...(AND THAT STATEMENT COULDN'T BE THAT MORE WRONG)

Dipset Verse From Da Drought III plust his delivery was on point...

Yeah Imagine Waking Up Out Ya Sleep To Them Pistols Blastin
And If The Witness Is Dead There's No Trial
If You Didn't Know Then Hoe Well Ya Know Now
And I Don't Mean Basketball When I Say I Don't Know Yao
Money Money Money Money Boost My Mor-Al
Play With My Money Money Money O.K. Co-Ral
I Like A Bitch With A Apple Bottom Like Vokal
The Top Is At My Fingertips Like I Ain't Got No Nails
I Got Blood Brothers Bitch I Ain't Got Pals
I Make A Girl Get Low Like I Ain't Got No L's
I'm A Paper Chasin Dog Check My Toenails
And I Never Miss A Game, No Shaq O'neal
More Like Brett Favre Just Like Brett Favre
I Been Shot 2 Times Just Wipe That Off
But I Thank You For Putting Me Right Back Lord
And To You Father I Would Give My Life Back For It
That Knife That Sword That Gun That War
Make Ya So Called Soldiers Just Run Like Gore
Yeah Frank that is From San Francis And I Got More Banana Clips Then Chimpanzees
1o Addresses And I Dresses, Like I Thinks I'm The Mothafuckin Best There Is
And I'm About To Bubble And She Catch That Fizz And I'm Straight From Clayborne Nigga Just Ask Liz
Check Ya Neck There Aint A Crook Like This
From The City Where The Judge Throw The Book At Kids
Burna In School In My Bookbag Hid, Talk Stupid At Lunch And We Havin Ya Ribs
If You Are Not Home Then We Havin Ya Kids
And If You Can't Come Up With Half We'll Send You Half Of Ya Kid
Back To The Board, An Extravagant Crib, I'm On The Toilet Watchin Martin Just Laughin & shyt
Don't Know Why I Get High, But I Get High, I Get High Like Every Single Day
We Do Shit That Them Other Women Can't, Maryjane What Is It You've Done To Me
I Pop A Beat And Start Rollin And Then I Smoke It Like A Mothafuckin Stogie
Pete pye Wrote It, I Was Rappin To The (Ding-Ding-Ding ??) Fuck It
Get High Screw The World And that's That
I Need All My Funds Yeah, All My Money Baby
Black Diamonds And Pearls, Believe That
I May Bling Bling And My Chest Look Like A Mural
I'm Nuts, Just Call Me Squirrel
My Fetish Is The Girls, But The Women Not The Girls
Act Your Age Not Your Shoe Size Maybe We Can Do The Twril
I'll Be The Prince Of A Pearl tongue Earring In Her Pearl tongue
If She Come Let Her Girl Come, Give Her A Pill Give Her Girl One
Party time Excellent Yeah Wayne's World, Campbell's Soup On The Wrist Just Call Me Earl
Lil Ma Don't Shoot 'em Ya Heard, I Get High My Words Slur, I Start Callin 'em Mirl
Hey Mirl Light That Fur And I Know This Old But I'm Really Hot In Herre
I Went With The Phantom, My Niggas Copin Spurs
My Hands In The Pot, I'd Rather Eat And Stir
Its I Againt The World And I'm Strapped Yeah
I Bring All My Guns, Shoot Mothers, Fathers, Babies Damn
Black Hand Guns To Serve We Could See
But We Are So Blind To The Signs They Tryin To Lose The World
And We Will Walk Right Up With Our Guns Yup, Hand And Hand Yeah
We'll March Right After The Drum, But I Don't Need No Band Nicca Drought 3

[Sidious]

Re: FR3SH Take: Why 'Tha Carter IV' Failed (REVIEW)

Stop contradicting yourself....dude...(AND THAT STATEMENT COULDN'T BE THAT MORE WRONG)

I'm not contradicting myself...and Nope...you're proving me right...take that verse then go into that thread with the "60 wackest lines from C4" and compare them to sh!t like

Play With My Money Money Money... O.K. Co-Ral (supadupa flow)

I Make A Girl Get Low Like I Ain't Got No L's

I Got More Banana Clips Then Chimpanzees

I'm Nuts, Just Call Me Squirrel


Guarantee if that verse was on C4, word for word, they'd be on that "60 wackest lines" list...and they're allllllllllllllllll over Drought 3...but it was "cool" to like Wayne then, but since then he's taken over the rap world and it's cool to hate him

[chippyr]

Re: FR3SH Take: Why 'Tha Carter IV' Failed (REVIEW)

I'm not contradicting myself...and Nope...you're proving me right...take that verse then go into that thread with the "60 wackest lines from C4" and compare them to sh!t like

Play With My Money Money Money... O.K. Co-Ral (supadupa flow)

I Make A Girl Get Low Like I Ain't Got No L's

I Got More Banana Clips Then Chimpanzees

I'm Nuts, Just Call Me Squirrel


Guarantee if that verse was on C4, word for word, they'd be on that "60 wackest lines" list...and they're allllllllllllllllll over Drought 3...but it was "cool" to like Wayne then, but since then he's taken over the rap world and it's cool to hate him

100% correct. Bravo!

[TyIquan]

Re: FR3SH Take: Why 'Tha Carter IV' Failed (REVIEW)

While I agree that Wayne had some whack ass punchlines back then(I've been saying this) that people seemed to overlook or even praise, it's kind of different now. Every bar back then wasn't a metaphor, and he rode the beat more.

Though I will say people are seeming to focus in on his once in a while recycled set ups and punchlines on CIV(he's always been a recycler, let's be real), but he has a bunch of not recycled stuff as well. It honestly feels like people are just focusing on the bad points of C4.

Honestly...I like CIV more than CIII.

CII(9.5)>CI(8.5)>=CIV(8.5)>=CIII(8~).

CIII wasn't whack by any means. But neither is CIV, IMO.

I actually know a Wayne hater that that listened to CIV and came around.

Oh, and that verse isn't his Dipset verse...

[SteadyMobbin]

Re: FR3SH Take: Why 'Tha Carter IV' Failed (REVIEW)

I'm not contradicting myself...and Nope...you're proving me right...take that verse then go into that thread with the "60 wackest lines from C4" and compare them to sh!t like

Play With My Money Money Money... O.K. Co-Ral (supadupa flow)

I Make A Girl Get Low Like I Ain't Got No L's

I Got More Banana Clips Then Chimpanzees

I'm Nuts, Just Call Me Squirrel


Guarantee if that verse was on C4, word for word, they'd be on that "60 wackest lines" list...and they're allllllllllllllllll over Drought 3...but it was "cool" to like Wayne then, but since then he's taken over the rap world and it's cool to hate him

Could not say it any better myself.

U cant compare any of these albums to eachother Tha Carter all the way up to Tha Carter IV shows the clear growth as an artist and if u expect wayne to be the same as he was on the others then your just bein unREAL.

He changed on everyone one of those albums, and hes done it again i believe C4 is a combination of all the carters in terms of hunger and creativity. he has once again proven that he can provide the best selection of beats. The production on C4 is so diffrent, and it all suits waynes CURRENT situation and energy. He can still rock a crowd, But I also think that C4 was a album that was rushed, but it doesnt mean it is bad in any way shape of form, weezy is a natural when it comes to putting classics together PRONTO. Not many artist do what waynes doing/does/done ok CIV has dropped but the material he has to come, you know its gonna be too much.

Weezy says 'Fuck the world' because thats what he thinks he dont giva fuka bout anyones opinions hes doing himself. if you dont like it do one

he has the right attitude