Willy Wonka

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Re: Willy Wonka

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[superman2]

Re: Willy Wonka

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It passed my exceptions because me personally i didn't put no exception for this track, if it was a C4 track then i would but it was sick nonetheless

And whoever said Gudda outshined weezy on this track is crazy, compare the lyrics and overall delivery.

I said it but if you actually read what I said you'll see why I said it. Gudda's delivery and lyrics have improved greatly and this song showed it. Wayne did Wayne, there was no difference to him, it's what you expected from Wayne. Gudda wasn't expected to do this well on the track yet he did so in my opinion he outshined Wayne. When I listen through it I notice Wayne as usual just murdering the track but I notice Gudda more because he's got a lot better.

Thats dumb, so because wayne never dissapoints Gudda impresses you more for having an average verse ?

SMH this website full of idiots..

How is it dumb? I noticed Gudda's improvement a lot more than Wayne's verse. I'm not just gonna dick ride on Wayne cause he murdered the track. Yeah Gudda's verse wasn't as good as Wayne but compared to other stuff he's done it was a vast improvement, that's why Gudda impressed me more. Wayne is expected to do what he did, Gudda was a lot better than people thought. I think it's better that Gudda showed improvement than Wayne doing what he always does but that's MY opinion whether you like it or not.

Its dumb cuz you can just say Gudda improved period. You dont have to say he outshined wayne cuz that makes you sound dumb

Not with lines like "put niggas to sleep like a downer" . Its not dickriding..its just facts.

No there is no "facts" involved, it's your opinion and I have mine and I've stated it. There is a lot of hard dick riding from people like you because you can't accept that I think Gudda was better because he showed massive improvement. Wayne did nothing new or nothing special for his ability, Gudda did, that's my whole point. I'd rather hear someone like Gudda get a lot better in 5 songs each time getting better than hearing Wayne do what he does everytime in 5 songs, but hey that's just because I'd like to see some other artists reach their potential than Wayne run the game non stop. Wayne has been consistant but hasn't varied himself in months now, why is because he hasn't had any serious competition, people like Gudda get better and start testing Wayne then Wayne pushes himself to get better. But obviously people don't understand that simple concept.[/quote:3uoxl4kf]Dumb sh1t once again.

Wayne is the most versatile rapper in the game with his flow. Its not even a matter of opinion. Sure its nice to see Gudda get better but get better at what ? Doing his best Lil Wayne immitation ? He did good, but outshine wayne at doing an average immitatation of wayne ? cmon.

Should wayne be punished for being so good at what he does ? I mean, wtf are you getting at ?

[hotboy04mad]

Re: Willy Wonka

Can anybody put the lyrics up...n me personally i think gudda did him same as them demolition freestyles....gudda got off his verses so under rated cuz wayne bodied them freestyles same as this ...but lyrics plz someone

[Twiggz]

Re: Willy Wonka

Can anybody put the lyrics up...n me personally i think gudda did him same as them demolition freestyles....gudda got off his verses so under rated cuz wayne bodied them freestyles same as this ...but lyrics plz someone

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[JrockHQ]

Re: Willy Wonka

[quote=superman2][quote=IgnoranceIsBliss]

It passed my exceptions because me personally i didn't put no exception for this track, if it was a C4 track then i would but it was sick nonetheless

And whoever said Gudda outshined weezy on this track is crazy, compare the lyrics and overall delivery.

I said it but if you actually read what I said you'll see why I said it. Gudda's delivery and lyrics have improved greatly and this song showed it. Wayne did Wayne, there was no difference to him, it's what you expected from Wayne. Gudda wasn't expected to do this well on the track yet he did so in my opinion he outshined Wayne. When I listen through it I notice Wayne as usual just murdering the track but I notice Gudda more because he's got a lot better.

Thats dumb, so because wayne never dissapoints Gudda impresses you more for having an average verse ?

SMH this website full of idiots..

How is it dumb? I noticed Gudda's improvement a lot more than Wayne's verse. I'm not just gonna dick ride on Wayne cause he murdered the track. Yeah Gudda's verse wasn't as good as Wayne but compared to other stuff he's done it was a vast improvement, that's why Gudda impressed me more. Wayne is expected to do what he did, Gudda was a lot better than people thought. I think it's better that Gudda showed improvement than Wayne doing what he always does but that's MY opinion whether you like it or not.

Its dumb cuz you can just say Gudda improved period. You dont have to say he outshined wayne cuz that makes you sound dumb

Not with lines like "put niggas to sleep like a downer" . Its not dickriding..its just facts.

No there is no "facts" involved, it's your opinion and I have mine and I've stated it. There is a lot of hard dick riding from people like you because you can't accept that I think Gudda was better because he showed massive improvement. Wayne did nothing new or nothing special for his ability, Gudda did, that's my whole point. I'd rather hear someone like Gudda get a lot better in 5 songs each time getting better than hearing Wayne do what he does everytime in 5 songs, but hey that's just because I'd like to see some other artists reach their potential than Wayne run the game non stop. Wayne has been consistant but hasn't varied himself in months now, why is because he hasn't had any serious competition, people like Gudda get better and start testing Wayne then Wayne pushes himself to get better. But obviously people don't understand that simple concept.[/quote:1322yv49]Dumb sh1t once again.

Wayne is the most versatile rapper in the game with his flow. Its not even a matter of opinion. Sure its nice to see Gudda get better but get better at what ? Doing his best Lil Wayne immitation ? He did good, but outshine wayne at doing an average immitatation of wayne ? cmon.

Should wayne be punished for being so good at what he does ? I mean, wtf are you getting at ?[/quote:1322yv49]

Co-Sign superman, some people on this site are just

[IgnoranceIsBliss]

Re: Willy Wonka

@Superman - Wayne is most definately not the most versitile in terms of his flow, people like Tech N9ne would eat Wayne alive when it comes to flow. Wayne's flow changes slightly from song to song depending on the beat but there is no real varience to it. Gudda has obviously got better lyrically and delivery wise and that's a fresh change. I never said Wayne should be punished but he should push himself a lot more than he has been doing lately and I'm trying to say people like Gudda are pushing themselves, Wayne just isn't pushing himself enough to improve.

[JrockHQ]

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@Superman - Wayne is most definately not the most versitile in terms of his flow, people like Tech N9ne would eat Wayne alive when it comes to flow. Wayne's flow changes slightly from song to song depending on the beat but there is no real varience to it. Gudda has obviously got better lyrically and delivery wise and that's a fresh change. I never said Wayne should be punished but he should push himself a lot more than he has been doing lately and I'm trying to say people like Gudda are pushing themselves, Wayne just isn't pushing himself enough to improve.

Have You ever thought maybe it's because wayne is saving all his lyrical ammunition and determination for Tha Carter 4 that's why he said he wasn't going all out on for No Ceilings, Rebirth, etc..? You cannot push yourself to the max in every song definitely if your putting out 3-4 songs a week and sometimes daily. Stop trying to expect so much from wayne all the time and take what you get because mixtapes and features are meant to be punchline filled, quick finish and albums the opposite. Either way hes still killing all rappers.

[IgnoranceIsBliss]

Re: Willy Wonka

@Superman - Wayne is most definately not the most versitile in terms of his flow, people like Tech N9ne would eat Wayne alive when it comes to flow. Wayne's flow changes slightly from song to song depending on the beat but there is no real varience to it. Gudda has obviously got better lyrically and delivery wise and that's a fresh change. I never said Wayne should be punished but he should push himself a lot more than he has been doing lately and I'm trying to say people like Gudda are pushing themselves, Wayne just isn't pushing himself enough to improve.

Have You ever thought maybe it's because wayne is saving all his lyrical ammunition and determination for Tha Carter 4 that's why he said he wasn't going all out on for No Ceilings, Rebirth, etc..? You cannot push yourself to the max in every song definitely if your putting out 3-4 songs a week and sometimes daily. Stop trying to expect so much from wayne all the time and take what you get because mixtapes and features are meant to be punchline filled, quick finish and albums the opposite. Either way hes still killing all rappers.

He put more into Rebirth in my opinion, it was more emotionally driven. I'm not expecting so much from him all the time, I'm saying from what has come out from No Ceilings to now (minus a few tracks) he hasn't pushed himself enough to stay at the top. I enjoy what has come out featuring Wayne or by Wayne but I don't see that he's trying to elevate himself further. But no-where is there a damn manual saying how mixtapes, features and albums are supposed to be. Wayne is a metaphor, similie and punchline rapper, others aren't, that's how it is. What I'm trying to get at is other rappers will claim the top spot in rap if Wayne doesn't push himself more and more really soon. There is some good upcoming artists who will bite at Wayne's ankles in no time.

[prezidential]

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Have You ever thought maybe it's because wayne is saving all his lyrical ammunition and determination for Tha Carter 4 that's why he said he wasn't going all out on for No Ceilings, Rebirth, etc..?

When did he say that?

[iGot5onit]

Re: Willy Wonka

Have You ever thought maybe it's because wayne is saving all his lyrical ammunition and determination for Tha Carter 4 that's why he said he wasn't going all out on for No Ceilings, Rebirth, etc..?

When did he say that?

he said he didn't go all out for no ceilings on Nino Brown Pt2 and for Rebirth it was an experimental album so of course it wasn't his best work.

[MrWavez]

Re: Willy Wonka

wayne hasnt been claiming the best rapper alive stuff in a minute.....smh cuz of jay z wack ass

[superman2]

Re: Willy Wonka

wayne hasnt been claiming the best rapper alive stuff in a minute.....smh cuz of jay z wack ass

Im the best to ever do it mothafukka I know it no ceilings gotdammit now the fukkin sky showin ugh