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  • #49
    Re: j cole. wayne. emotions. the genderization and racialization of strength. lol.

    Originally posted by mode View Post
    while that maybe could almostbe true right now.
    if were judging strictly off carter four and cole world.

    but cole is nowhere nearr the lyricist wayne was in his prime.

    waynes rhymes at 22 > coles career

    i think its overlooked how young wayne was when he made the carter two.
    look at the pedestrian level of rapping from the dudes that age now.
    and compare it to what happened on carter two. and it isnt even closee.
    I've Never Argued This.

    I've Stated Countless Times That Wayne's Prime Is Nye-On Untouchable.

    But, That's The Past. His Props Were Handed To Him.
    Now, He Needs To Release Good Music In Order To Be Good In My Eyes.

    He Isn't. Cole Is.
    Cole Much Better (As Of Right Now).





    Just How I Feel About The Situation.

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    • #50
      Re: j cole. wayne. emotions. the genderization and racialization of strength. lol.

      Originally posted by WeezYIsCraaazY View Post
      I've Never Argued This.

      I've Stated Countless Times That Wayne's Prime Is Nye-On Untouchable.

      But, That's The Past. His Props Were Handed To Him.
      Now, He Needs To Release Good Music In Order To Be Good In My Eyes.

      He Isn't. Cole Is.
      Cole Much Better (As Of Right Now).





      Just How I Feel About The Situation.
      im with that.
      i feel like waynes ceiling.
      is still higher than most rappers.
      but hes needs to start reaching for it again.

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      • #51
        Re: j cole. wayne. emotions. the genderization and racialization of strength. lol.

        wayne's ceiling is the sky

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        • #52
          Re: j cole. wayne. emotions. the genderization and racialization of strength. lol.

          Originally posted by mode View Post
          im with that.
          i feel like waynes ceiling.
          is still higher than most rappers.
          but hes needs to start reaching for it again.
          Yeah, I Just Don't Know What Happened To Him.


          Couldn't Of Been Prison. I Mean, Just Listen To His Light Up Remix.

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          • #53
            Re: j cole. wayne. emotions. the genderization and racialization of strength. lol.

            Originally posted by StreetsBeGoinHam View Post
            wayne's ceiling is the sky
            he has no ceiling

            yeah bad joke zzz

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            • #54
              Re: j cole. wayne. emotions. the genderization and racialization of strength. lol.

              well sky is unlimitless if u dont have a aircraft

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              • #55
                Re: j cole. wayne. emotions. the genderization and racialization of strength. lol.

                Originally posted by StreetsBeGoinHam View Post
                well sky is unlimitless if u dont have a aircraft
                Good Trampolines Cost Nothing.

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                • #56
                  Re: j cole. wayne. emotions. the genderization and racialization of strength. lol.

                  Originally posted by WeezYIsCraaazY View Post
                  Yeah, I Just Don't Know What Happened To Him.


                  Couldn't Of Been Prison. I Mean, Just Listen To His Light Up Remix.
                  he's just too comfy. too many people gobble up whatever he puts out. everyone in YM is a yes man and his sales are still high, so im sure in his opinion he's still putting out quality music. he needs someone to push him, thats why im looking forward to I Cant Feel My Face

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                  • #57
                    Re: j cole. wayne. emotions. the genderization and racialization of strength. lol.

                    Originally posted by WeezYIsCraaazY View Post
                    Yeah, I Just Don't Know What Happened To Him.


                    Couldn't Of Been Prison. I Mean, Just Listen To His Light Up Remix.
                    yeahh. i dont believe its that either.
                    im convinced carter four is mostly old material.

                    the styles dont add up.
                    he hadnt been really using the supa dupa flow.
                    all that much in the features preceding the album.
                    and especially after the album. the c4 is laced with them.
                    that'd only make sense if that style was hitting when it was recorded.
                    and the way he uses it on the album is really basic.
                    compared to how he delivers those lines now.

                    "eat these rappers; anthony hopkins; see that vneck thats polo"

                    he doesnt let hashtag or whatever just hang there.
                    on some ooo look how clever i am shit.
                    he just keeps running with it.
                    you dont see that on c4.
                    so im inclined to believe its when.
                    he just started using it.

                    look at me now was record for c4.
                    and look at how he rapped on that.
                    way more style and technique.
                    than anything on c4.
                    and that was recorded afterwards.
                    im on one was supposed to be c4.

                    idk. everything after and before c4 with the supadupa flow was more refined.

                    it has to be old. but then its like wheres all the music hes been recording?

                    o.O


                    whats crazy tho.
                    is how all the songs he jumped on.
                    for other artist. effectively worked as singles for him.
                    ymcmb is smart as shit. dont pay the producers for the beat.
                    jump on it. and wayne is his own marketing machine.
                    its damn near free promotional music. that he gets paid for.
                    without having to pay for top notch production.
                    Last edited by mode; 10-15-2011, 08:48 PM.

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                    • #58
                      Re: j cole. wayne. emotions. the genderization and racialization of strength. lol.

                      Originally posted by mode View Post
                      whats crazy tho.
                      is how all the songs he jumped on.
                      for other artist. effectively worked as singles for him.
                      ymcmb is smart as shit. dont pay the producers for the beat.
                      jump on it. and wayne is his own marketing machine.
                      its damn near free promotional music. that he gets paid for.
                      without having to pay for top notch production.
                      this^^

                      not that they were gonna pay for the beats anyways

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                      • #59
                        Re: j cole. wayne. emotions. the genderization and racialization of strength. lol.

                        so many stupid ass people comparing cole to wayne


                        if this was real life yall would be slapped by me personally


                        comparing a niggas 1st album to another niggas 9th album ...what in the fuck is that shit?

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                        • #60
                          Re: j cole. wayne. emotions. the genderization and racialization of strength. lol.

                          Originally posted by Mr Xclusive View Post
                          so many stupid ass people comparing cole to wayne


                          if this was real life yall would be slapped by me personally


                          comparing a niggas 1st album to another niggas 9th album ...what in the fuck is that shit?

                          a. i liked it better when you were ignoring my post.

                          b. for the most part this wasnt a comparison about them as rappers.
                          but about the perspective that comes out in the music.
                          its something of an outline of the emotional texture of their work.

                          i think thats fair game.
                          if you can think about each album.
                          as a stand alone piece outside of a time frame.

                          c. with cole. its almost unfair to say he only has one album.
                          since hes had a continuing theme throughout all of his releases.
                          and i think ive seen the same snapshot over and over again
                          but thats not to say he cant grow from there.

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