the art of falling off

[Tunechi Lionches]

Why can't people around here just accept Wayne sucks nowadays ? Whenever someone says Wayne fell of y'all start calling him a hater. Wayne will never make songs like Cry out,dear summer,misunderstood,hustler musik,etc
Sure,he released "No worries" and "Bitches love me" wich were okay songs,but his older songs sounded different,he had passion back then,nowadays he just does it for the money. Also those fancy beats are just annoying, all I hear is bangers.

Maybe because they don't feel that way. Not sure if you're aware but there is a such thing as an opinion.

I personally still enjoy Wayne's music

[Leaff]

I want to preface this by stating that I am not a troll or an instigator; I am a true fan with a genuine concern for the path wayne has taken and I just want to air some of these grievances and see what other people think. i'm not looking to get flamed or anything. just want honest opinions. Ok here goes:

It's so weird how in interviews nowadays Wayne says things like "I killed that shit" in reference to his new songs and he seems so convinced that his raps are still amazing, but they really are not. I keep an open mind, but the fact of the matter is when I listen to new wayne I feel like I'm a dumbass kid or something, like it's almost embarrassing to stand behind it like "this is good shit", because i know in my heart that, despite a few nice punchlines, it's basically just crap lol... but when i throw on his older, better stuff I feel like I'm listening to a legend; like biggie or pac or whoever u consider your legends. He was taking the game to such new heights it's not even funny. He struck gold and then lost it all... it's a fucking tragedy really.

I mean, he obviously knows he's not the best rapper alive anymore, because he doesn't even claim that anymore, but i always wonder: how does he even think he's good AT ALL?! Can he not hear himself with those corny ass pussy lines and the weak one-liners? He's always been erratic with his rhymes, but now he sounds like a crackhead who can't control whatever retarded thoughts enter his head lol. Don't the people in his camp have the balls to tell him "yo you fell off, hang it up now tune"... seems like everyone always just kisses his ass. here are the things that i have decided are wrong:

1- modern hip hop beats have changed, which in turn affects weezy's flow. his rhyming style is more suited to slower beats where he can really give punch and personality to each and every line he says. now i don't mean c4 slow (intro, blunt blowin, etc), i mean slow as in a milli, 3 peat, fly in/out, tha mobb, etc. come to think of it though, wayne used to kill ANY tempo beat; slow, fast, medium, anything. i'm just saying these weird beats these days don't help.

2- syrrrrrp and weed. weezy himself has stated that weed and syrup is the combination - the key to success. when he gave that shit up he lost his magic powers. i hate to say it too, because it's unfair to expect this man to risk his life just to entertain us... he's just not as good without it.

3- complacency. he has gotten complacent and lazy in his current superstar role as mogul, mentor, skater, celebrity, etc. he used to eat, sleep and breathe rap and now it's like he doesn't care. is he just doing it for the money? probably. you can tell there really isn't much love there anymore. he sounds like he's phoning it in.

Lil Wayne could have been so much more. I curse that damn prison sentence... maybe it saved his life though, who knows? He had changed hip hop into this unreal art form and then he got cut down in his prime and it was never the same again. WTF. I feel let down as a fan, no matter how much i try to fool myself into liking these new songs. i have a simple test: listen to a new weezy song, then to see if you reeeeally reeeally like it just throw on one single minute of ANY 2007-2008 song... and see how you feel then.

Lol how much times did we have this thread?

Only 2 things whch separate him from being the best again.

1. His passion for rap
2. His weed

Thats it. The reason why he gave us 117(yes i counted) HOT fuckin features in 2008 was because he loved rap, now his passion is skateboarding. His weed made him creative whether you like to admit it or not. He quit syrup before recording No Ceilings so we know Syrup isnt a need.

Hes making a comeback in 2013 though.

[XTaCiDe]

I agree with TC in every aspect. Thank you for typing it out.

[GeorgiaBoyTool]

Lol how much times did we have this thread?

Only 2 things whch separate him from being the best again.

1. His passion for rap
2. His weed

Thats it. The reason why he gave us 117(yes i counted) HOT fuckin features in 2008 was because he loved rap, now his passion is skateboarding. His weed made him creative whether you like to admit it or not. He quit syrup before recording No Ceilings so we know Syrup isnt a need.

Hes making a comeback in 2013 though.

Been telling people those 2 points for the longest, it is possible to lose passion for something you've been doing most of of your life, I think Wayne has conquered all of his personal goals in the game and now he's just riding the rest of his contract out.

[youngben]

10characterbs

[ThaWeezy]

did you write all of that or did you copy it from lilwaynehaters.com ?

That doesn't remotely sound like a hater's opinion. No need to be butthurt just cause he's pointing out facts.

[Mars Martian]

This is just the truth and nothing but the truth.

[YM Salute]

Honestly speaking this was a good read. I came to appreciate some/most of his newer songs because like someone said times change so people usually change with it to stay current I guess.

Idk if yall know but look up the song "Syllables" with Eminem, 50, Jay-Z, and Dr. Dre. The beginning was the voice of a manager I guess saying "It is not about lyrics anymore, it's about a hot beat and a catchy hook". And then Eminem raps this:

"If we gotta dumb down our styles and ABC it
Then so be it, cause nowadays these kids, sheesh
Don't give a shit about lyrics"


And that's some true shit sadly. Seems that it wasn't the artists choice to change the rap game or their styles to adapt which it seems like Wayne's done, it's because what's popular is basically usually what Wayne's rapping about or what his current style is. But yeah it's Wayne bruh, ever since after prison you'll never know what to expect from him. Who knows, maybe one day he'll snap and realize that he needs to sound like he used to sound or flow like he used to flow.

He won't go back until he gets back heavy on weed and if HE wants to. Even if people tell him he's falling off.. yall know Wayne's attitude. He prolly won't make a change unless he himself wants to and nobody else telling him will do a thing 2bh.

[Steveee]

Watch tht video with nicki minaj outside the studio.. he says tht he feels like his shit isnt that good anymore but his ppl tell him it is. But he defenitly lost that love for rap which you cant blame him for.. hes put out so much material. everything gets old after awhile

[Black00]

Watch tht video with nicki minaj outside the studio.. he says tht he feels like his shit isnt that good anymore but his ppl tell him it is. But he defenitly lost that love for rap which you cant blame him for.. hes put out so much material. everything gets old after awhile

i think that's the problem...tez or birdman dickriding weezy...i hope we dint have yes men but people who actually could bring him back. or maybe persuade him to take a break. why put out bullshit like "my homies still"? just concetrate in skateboarding for a while dude...and when the passion is back , well come back wayne , like shady did.

[GeorgiaBoyTool]

i think that's the problem...tez or birdman dickriding weezy...i hope we dint have yes men but people who actually could bring him back. or maybe persuade him to take a break. why put out bullshit like "my homies still"? just concetrate in skateboarding for a while dude...and when the passion is back , well come back wayne , like shady did.

Passion doesn't just come back, if Wayne doesn't wanna make lyrical songs anymore than he's not point blank, Wayne accomplished what he wanted in tha game, and could care less about his legacy because he has already proven he's the best, and people still don't appreciate what he has done for the game.

[Mnjaro]

Watch tht video with nicki minaj outside the studio.. he says tht he feels like his shit isnt that good anymore but his ppl tell him it is. But he defenitly lost that love for rap which you cant blame him for.. hes put out so much material. everything gets old after awhile

what video is this? he actually says he feels hes not good anymore?