Wayne Vs. Kanye

[CodeineSmith]

"I think that Wayne is the number one rapper in the world." - Kanye West, 2013.

[SerjTank]

Dark Fantasy was the GAOAT

[Caesar]

I like Wayne for his raps.
I like Kanye for his beats and creativity.

But ill always pick Wayne over Kanye just because ive been a long time fan, No hate to Kanye.

It's the same thing for me!

[IANAHB2]

I agree with OP on 2 tbh.

Carter II has only a couple of bad tracks; the rest of them are great songs.
Carter III is close to not being great if you ask me; some of the songs are mind blowing, but half of the album (Got Money, Comfortable, Phone Home, Mrs. Officer, Lollipop, La La) is average at best.

Wayne is great on his older albums, but there's not enough variety in them and they've dated pretty poorly.

This is true, i feel like i could put on a a few Kanye tracks and they would still not sound dated (Good life and stronger), but if i put on Wayne's Got Money and Lollipop they just sound abit meh in terms of subject matter

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If it's rock music, which it is, it's a rock album.

Sure, it's not a conventional one, but it's a rock album nonetheless.

Even if you class it as a rap album or simply 'music', it's very bad music.

Conventional, simple beats, generic, corny lyrics ("I loved her fancy underwear. I sat behind her every year")

You're seriously telling me if anyone but Wayne put that album out you'd call it dope?

I feel like this is always the case when it comes to a rebirth discussion, i personally think its an "okay" project, there are definately songs i still like (Runnin, Paradice and im so over you), but the CORNY songs like Knockout and Prom Queen made the album look so childish.
If someone else released a Rebirth they definately would gain a level of popularity and buzz, but it would only reach a Chief Keef Level of popularity

[youn9dreezy]

weezy is much better

[MORO551]

Wayne has better flow, better lyrics and overall is a better rapper

[Vocker]

Have you ever heard a rock album not created by Wayne?

Lyrically, stylistically, everything about that album was awful.

Kanye created a chutzpah masterpiece.

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To be honest, in post-modern criticism, Kanye is always gonna win: he is the auteur, the man who makes his music.

Wayne raps over a beat someone else made...

Lyrically tho?

I think Rebirth is the only Wayne album were he got meanings and shit on it lol

[WeezYIsCraaazY]

Lyrically tho?

I think Rebirth is the only Wayne album were he got meanings and shit on it lol

On a select few songs I agree, but most of it seems like Wayne trying to fit his music around what he understands to be rock.

The only way that album is great is if Wayne is being satirical about modern-day rock music.

[IANAHB2]

So are we all saying it goes like this:
Better rapper: Wayne
Better overall musical artist: Kanye
???

[IgetMoney]

In terms of experimental albums:
Rebirth>Yeezus
808's and Heartbreaks> IANAHB 1&2

In terms of music:
C3 album and sessions> Kanye's entire discography

[Tuneechi]

Lyrically tho?

I think Rebirth is the only Wayne album were he got meanings and shit on it lol

Lights Out - Everything
Tha Carter - I Miss My Dawgs
Tha Carter II - Shooter
Tha Carter III - Tie My Hands, Misunderstood
Tha Carter IV - President Carter, Mirror
IANAHB II - God Bless Amerika
Unreleased material/non album- dozens of songs

And that was only on top of my mind, c'mon man Kanye doesnt even write his shit

[WeezYIsCraaazY]

In terms of experimental albums:
Rebirth>Yeezus
808's and Heartbreaks> IANAHB 1&2

In terms of music:
C3 album and sessions> Kanye's entire discography

You do realise Rebirth is not an experimental album? It's a rapper making a pop rock album.

In terms of music (not rap):
MBDTF > Wayne's entire discography.