Who killed lil wayne sales career? A masterplan or mistake

[lilweezyfan]

It's Wayne's own fault.

He had a pretty loyal fanbase because he was at one point hands down the best rapper dead or alive.

We tolerated him going through the Trukfit phase,
we tolerated him going through the guitar phase,
we tolerated all the trashy features and songs.
because of the little hope that he would one day come back...

But after years of being trash, rapping about the same shit over and over again,
people have realized that Wayne is never going to be the same as he was
That's why his fanbase is fading, thats why his sales arent popping anymore.

It's also because of the terrible management and horrible promo.

[theBALLER_91]

exactly

wtf are you talking about man

[retro101]

whats your twitter name again?

[Clcrak]

It's Wayne's own fault.

He had a pretty loyal fanbase because he was at one point hands down the best rapper dead or alive.

We tolerated him going through the Trukfit phase,
we tolerated him going through the guitar phase,
we tolerated all the trashy features and songs.
because of the little hope that he would one day come back...

But after years of being trash, rapping about the same shit over and over again,
people have realized that Wayne is never going to be the same as he was
That's why his fanbase is fading, thats why his sales arent popping anymore.

It's also because of the terrible management and horrible promo.

its true hes not the same but to me wayne will always be great because he has the potential to snap at any moment See Street Chains

[iamusic]

the points you lay out are valid but it makes no sense why birdman would do this.thats stupid....


all in all it has been poor management not a master plan to de throne weezy

Timeless music or not

people were buying anything he put out
no worries
love me
rich as fuck
wouldve charted higher and blown up sooner if his label CASH MONEY backed him up and put that on iTunes sooner rather than giving it for free and then releasing it on iTunes
As we know CM/universal only has the rights to sell his music
Doesn't depend on wayne or his management

why wouldn't you release ur biggest selling artist music on time to the fans
people waited to buy Krazy start a fire even believe me but no where to be found on iTunes
and everything I said are facts

even Cortez or Mack Maine even tweeted about those songs coming soon on iTunes around that time after fans complained when it's dropping

I still ill believe if they dropped C5 at that time it wouldve sold more than 500k At least

[Clcrak]

Timeless music or not

people were buying anything he put out
no worries
love me
rich as fuck
wouldve charted higher and blown up sooner if his label CASH MONEY backed him up and put that on iTunes sooner rather than giving it for free and then releasing it on iTunes
As we know CM/universal only has the rights to sell his music
Doesn't depend on wayne or his management

why wouldn't you release ur biggest selling artist music on time to the fans
people waited to buy Krazy start a fire even believe me but no where to be found on iTunes
and everything I said are facts

even Cortez or Mack Maine even tweeted about those songs coming soon on iTunes around that time after fans complained when it's dropping

I still ill believe if they dropped C5 at that time it wouldve sold more than 500k At least

wayne dont even care if you buy his album you think he cares if you buy a single or even have the ability to? he calls his music bullshit and straight up said i dont care if you buy my album (ianahb2)

[iamusic]

wayne dont even care if you buy his album you think he cares if you buy a single or even have the ability to? he calls his music bullshit and straight up said i dont care if you buy my album (ianahb2)

That's what I am saying

his attitude at that time
he knew his album was bad n birdy/universal made it that way
u see who executive producers are
have u even considered that that's what CM wanted him to do

when he gave a Good album C5
they didn't release it

u know that LIVING RIGHT is from C5 and it's a great song (if u don't agree with this idk man what will make u agree that it's not his fault)

I agree with u he didn't give a fuck when IANAHB2 era but now he does

I believe he gonna comeback stronger than ever
as of now his image regarding music is so washed up n now that bitch Superhead said all those stuff just to get attention

last but not the least
when you in a contract
u are advised n made sure u don't say certain stuff that's why when wayne voiced his opinion on Twitter
that his creativity is a prisoner it went over people's head
Becoz we never heard wayne going against in a direct manner

he said C5 gonna be his last album
coz he don't want his legacy to be like that with bum ass albums(IANAHB2)

[Clcrak]

That's what I am saying

his attitude at that time
he knew his album was bad n birdy/universal made it that way
u see who executive producers are
have u even considered that that's what CM wanted him to do

when he gave a Good album C5
they didn't release it

u know that LIVING RIGHT is from C5 and it's a great song (if u don't agree with this idk man what will make u agree that it's not his fault)

I agree with u he didn't give a fuck when IANAHB2 era but now he does

I believe he gonna comeback stronger than ever
as of now his image regarding music is so washed up n now that bitch Superhead said all those stuff just to get attention

last but not the least
when you in a contract
u are advised n made sure u don't say certain stuff that's why when wayne voiced his opinion on Twitter
that his creativity is a prisoner it went over people's head
Becoz we never heard wayne going against in a direct manner

he said C5 gonna be his last album
coz he don't want his legacy to be like that with bum ass albums(IANAHB2)

again good points especially the twitter/contract part. I agree Living Right is a very good song and I was aware it was a C5 song because Wiz Khalifa is my favorite artist so I seen him talking about his C5 verse over a year ago.


I believe C5 will be amazing but when I look back at all of the C5 "singles" they are good but are not on any level of previous Wayne big songs/singles. Fans were so blinded when they dropped because everyone was hungry for the final Carter espcially after all the delays. Some saw it right from the beginning but long time fans like you and I presume were just ready for whatever was dropped. Like I said they were good but Weezy is capable of great

[back on my bullish*t]

whats your twitter name again?

who you talking to??

[Im Raw Dawg]

drop the skater that raps shit. drop the autotune too everybody on it now


he not a poser but some look at him like that
quit posting vids about it and shit we not fans of that wayne its a hobby not knockin that

stop dressing like a clown like matching shirt wit the matching pants outfits and those fuckin top hats.

he still wear fire stuff.

wayne fanbase is fine people still gon check for him.

lot of wayne slander is wave riding and off base look at karrine.. she said fwa didnt trend and nobody cared she wasnt accurate at all. she just didnt care thats fine just dnt make a statement like you speaking for the masses

twitter search a wayne verse this yr and watch how many " that was wayne best verse in a while " tweets you see.. people sheep wayne been consistent as fuck since 2014 wit fire.

stop the negative attention and press
and stop gettin in confrontations and losing his cool and dye his hair back regular he'll be fine. raps fans fickle as fuck

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That's what I am saying

his attitude at that time
he knew his album was bad n birdy/universal made it that way
u see who executive producers are
have u even considered that that's what CM wanted him to do

when he gave a Good album C5
they didn't release it

u know that LIVING RIGHT is from C5 and it's a great song (if u don't agree with this idk man what will make u agree that it's not his fault)

I agree with u he didn't give a fuck when IANAHB2 era but now he does

I believe he gonna comeback stronger than ever
as of now his image regarding music is so washed up n now that bitch Superhead said all those stuff just to get attention

last but not the least
when you in a contract
u are advised n made sure u don't say certain stuff that's why when wayne voiced his opinion on Twitter
that his creativity is a prisoner it went over people's head
Becoz we never heard wayne going against in a direct manner

he said C5 gonna be his last album
coz he don't want his legacy to be like that with bum ass albums(IANAHB2)

it was too long.. drop romance,beat the shit,wowzers, hot revolver, hello,and lay it down outside of those its very solid to me.

[mode]

hmm.. this is an interesting topic, probably a lot of layers to it. interesting numbers too, how they fell off from one year to the next. i think the other side to it is how wayne doesnt generate as much interest online either. sure he gets downloads, but if youre ever lookin at views and shares on wayne articles theyre usually significantly lower than other trending artist..

clearly its been bad business up at the top.. but i also think its a mismanagement of content, and a tendency to go low brow more often that not. we'll leave dedication 5 out of it since that was about a pure a mixtape as there could be, and im starting to feel like it might be the last.. at least up until dedication 6.

but sorry 4 the wait 2.. had the potential for interesting media.. there were good songs on there, original or otherwise, that deserved creative direction, and not just the shoddy wayne in a studio treatment. the selection too is weird.. why make a video for coco and not no type? which of those two would carry further, which is more of a reminder of vintage wayne?

hollyweezy had the potential to be very entertaining.. but nope, more of the same lackluster direction and production..


then theres the fact that waynes approach to music is pretty outdated. everyone is producing free albms w original music, and its gotten to the point where they almost look down on freestyles over other songs.. especially from a critical standpoint, its like that creativity isnt as worthy as original music, which i think is bullshit..

enter fwa, maybe necessary, but a mismanaged release on tidal.. that likely gained him nothing. the talk about how the album was released distracted the audience from the quality of the release.. and while theres a few big songs on there.. theres no content along with it..


wayne is a premier artist, and his management would like us to think hes a premier artist.. but they handle his output and creativity like hes still a mixtape rapper in 2004..

theres no reason why wayne and kanye shouldn be in the same category when were talking about music, but kanye treats his brand like hes apple or nike, and waynes people work like they arent even thinking about it..

why hasnt wayne been on the breakfast club? why hasnt wayne been on sway?


they want a premier hiphop elite artist.. but seems like they treat him like hes too infallible to make the rounds that keep the hiphop people interested.. think the last thing that wayne did that mattered culturally was the zulu nation thing..

smh its just a lot of missed opportunities.. this lilweezyana fest could be a good thing.. but its definitely gotta pick up from there..

[Im Raw Dawg]

hmm.. this is an interesting topic, probably a lot of layers to it. interesting numbers too, how they fell off from one year to the next. i think the other side to it is how wayne doesnt generate as much interest online either. sure he gets downloads, but if youre ever lookin at views and shares on wayne articles theyre usually significantly lower than other trending artist..

clearly its been bad business up at the top.. but i also think its a mismanagement of content, and a tendency to go low brow more often that not. we'll leave dedication 5 out of it since that was about a pure a mixtape as there could be, and im starting to feel like it might be the last.. at least up until dedication 6.

but sorry 4 the wait 2.. had the potential for interesting media.. there were good songs on there, original or otherwise, that deserved creative direction, and not just the shoddy wayne in a studio treatment. the selection too is weird.. why make a video for coco and not no type? which of those two would carry further, which is more of a reminder of vintage wayne?

hollyweezy had the potential to be very entertaining.. but nope, more of the same lackluster direction and production..


then theres the fact that waynes approach to music is pretty outdated. everyone is producing free albms w original music, and its gotten to the point where they almost look down on freestyles over other songs.. especially from a critical standpoint, its like that creativity isnt as worthy as original music, which i think is bullshit..

enter fwa, maybe necessary, but a mismanaged release on tidal.. that likely gained him nothing. the talk about how the album was released distracted the audience from the quality of the release.. and while theres a few big songs on there.. theres no content along with it..


wayne is a premier artist, and his management would like us to think hes a premier artist.. but they handle his output and creativity like hes still a mixtape rapper in 2004..

theres no reason why wayne and kanye shouldn be in the same category when were talking about music, but kanye treats his brand like hes apple or nike, and waynes people work like they arent even thinking about it..

why hasnt wayne been on the breakfast club? why hasnt wayne been on sway?


they want a premier hiphop elite artist.. but seems like they treat him like hes too infallible to make the rounds that keep the hiphop people interested.. think the last thing that wayne did that mattered culturally was the zulu nation thing..

smh its just a lot of missed opportunities.. this lilweezyana fest could be a good thing.. but its definitely gotta pick up from there..

wayne dont do interviews i seen once on twitter somebody sad waynes not the easiest person to get in contact with .and he is looked at on kanye level. you right tez is horrible he needs to go