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    I am a more old school style wayne fan. for years I've been telling myself I can't get into Wayne's new style which has really been developing since D4 if you think about it. Finally, with D6 and D6R I hear that he's reached a lyrical level that's maybe in the universe of where he was operating 10-12 years ago. The beats are totally different now, and so is his flow, but now his bars are loaded with actual decent punchlines and cold ass fucking lines. Sure it all sounds goofy sometimes compared to DD3 or D2, but by that rationale so does most of hip hop in 2018.

    I guess what i'm saying is: since S4TW2 he's been more consistently good as a rapper. Now with the 35 crazy tracks that make up D6, I kind of buy this new style of his as good rap for the first time in a long time. I never liked D5 much, but go back and listen to bitch don't kill my vibe or new slaves... ech, the lyrics and flows are fucking rough. Just a bunch of half formed thoughts and unfunny jokes. Now he's vibing proper. He is following ideas for several lines to make larger points and punchlines.


    The litmus test for me was always: Would I introduce someone who's never heard Wayne with the track ______ ? 9.9 times out of 10 anything post prison was a no-no! Lots of these 35 though... XO Tour Life, 80s, Bank Account, For Nothing... that's good rap any way you look at it IMO. I feel like D6 in full is all the strengths of S4TW2, FWA and NC2 rolled into one, then taken to the next level. Good shit, Wayne.

    BUT... remember how during those IANAHB2 days so many of us tried telling ourselves it was dope? Denial is a strong thing. LOL. Hope we ain't doing that now! But nah, this is for real dope.

  • #2
    But IANAHB2 was cool.....

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    • #3
      Originally posted by no_tom&jerry View Post
      I am a more old school style wayne fan. for years I've been telling myself I can't get into Wayne's new style which has really been developing since D4 if you think about it. Finally, with D6 and D6R I hear that he's reached a lyrical level that's maybe in the universe of where he was operating 10-12 years ago. The beats are totally different now, and so is his flow, but now his bars are loaded with actual decent punchlines and cold ass fucking lines. Sure it all sounds goofy sometimes compared to DD3 or D2, but by that rationale so does most of hip hop in 2018.

      I guess what i'm saying is: since S4TW2 he's been more consistently good as a rapper. Now with the 35 crazy tracks that make up D6, I kind of buy this new style of his as good rap for the first time in a long time. I never liked D5 much, but go back and listen to bitch don't kill my vibe or new slaves... ech, the lyrics and flows are fucking rough. Just a bunch of half formed thoughts and unfunny jokes. Now he's vibing proper. He is following ideas for several lines to make larger points and punchlines.


      The litmus test for me was always: Would I introduce someone who's never heard Wayne with the track ______ ? 9.9 times out of 10 anything post prison was a no-no! Lots of these 35 though... XO Tour Life, 80s, Bank Account, For Nothing... that's good rap any way you look at it IMO. I feel like D6 in full is all the strengths of S4TW2, FWA and NC2 rolled into one, then taken to the next level. Good shit, Wayne.

      BUT... remember how during those IANAHB2 days so many of us tried telling ourselves it was dope? Denial is a strong thing. LOL. Hope we ain't doing that now! But nah, this is for real dope.

      I enjoyed and will always enjoy stuff off of D4, IANAHB2, and D5, but I also never put it near the level of the Suffix-No Ceilings era.

      I completely agree with your Litmus Test, but apply it more to what I see as a "classic" track. I'll still play songs from all eras if they catch me in the mood on shuffle, but the recent material is in the area of "CLASSIC"

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      • #4
        weezy really got better with time like fine wine

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        • #5
          D6 is very dope but did you not like FWA @no_tom&jerry

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lucifer View Post
            D6 is very dope but did you not like FWA @no_tom&jerry
            (Long long post alert, but a good read if you like an old head’s opinions. Lol)

            I thought FWA was 100% some of best shit. It has a very special place in my heart too.. that summer was amazing for me when it came out. I remember blasting on drive home from work every night in the warm summer evenings. Living Right was so dope at sunset (no homo). Such a great album.. real flashes of the Wayne I love from back in the day (but with a new twist).

            I would post his prison output I would rank as follows:

            1- Dedication 6/6R - no sequence or logic to the track list which is totally fine because it’s a dedication and they’re random ass fucking tapes lol, but it’s just bars bars bars. His best lyrics and most passionate rapping since 2009. First time I ever thought “I think Wayne has finally owned this new sound”.

            2- FWA - best album (not project) since C3 when it dropped. Great vibes. Great hooks. Beautiful production. Wayne in good form on all but one or two tracks. This was all about that slow, old school flow I love so much - which is interesting because it came along in his fast phase. Although the second half of S4TW2 had that similar old flow so maybe it was a continuation of that. Either way, I love FWA. It’s like C3 sobered up. Lol

            3- S4TW2 - immensely important project. It was the first time many of us felt hope again after those flashes of C5 greatness were lost. Most Wayne mixtapes feel totally random but this one actually felt more like an album than some of his actual albums!! Crazy. I wore this bitch out when it dropped. Great project overal.

            4- S4TW - the only post project which holds the distinction of sounding officially like “the old days”. This tape’s DNA can be traced to the classics like DD3, D2, C3, NC... not on that level but definitely solid and the very very very last of its kind. It was a little bit like an island itself too, because it was sandwiched between two much, much worse projects: IANAHB (part 1) and C4.

            5- NC2 - ugh. This one was not a good one for me. This was way too long with way too much misused auto tune. Funny, D6 is almost like a correction of NC2: similar flows but he got the lyrics better on D6 with less auto tune, harder bars, and the project was smartly divided into two volumes to make it more digestible (and desirable). NC2 was like an early blueprint for what D6 would nail perfectly. But there were definitely some nice highlights that showed Wayne was working his ass off in the stu’!

            6- D4 - people think i am crazy but I’ve always enjoyed D4 more than D5. For me, D5 had higher highs (fuckin problems, cream, type of way, you song) but the lows were rough as fuck. And it was mostly lows. D5 was not the most inspired project. Once again overly long and not enough substance. D4 on the other hand was three things: (1) a breath of fresh air after the boring passionless C4, (2) a batshit crazy exercise in overreaching to prove relevancy.. which kind of worked, (3) a lyrical shitshow, overflowing with disgusting amateurish “single entendre” sex lines but just as many hilarious, clever, classic Wayne one liners.. if you could catch ‘em fast enough. D4 was also mixed and mastered poorly, only furthering its infamous legacy as the black sheep of the D series. I don’t throw on D4 much but it’s always fun when I do. Stupid shit, but fun.

            7- D5 (see D4 review)

            8- C4 - boring flow, the first sign there was a problem brewing. The fall off point from which we are still recovering. Few decent tracks but it was like a ghost of Wayne stood in for him. 6’7, mega man and a couple others were dope but overall a poor excuse for a
            Weezy album, let alone a Carter installment.

            9- IANAHB2 - rock bottom. I don’t know if this was a joke or something but it was a disaster. Don’t need to elaborate. If you know, you know.

            I think that covers it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by no_tom&jerry View Post
              (long long post alert, but a good read if you like an old head’s opinions. Lol)

              i thought fwa was 100% some of best shit. It has a very special place in my heart too.. That summer was amazing for me when it came out. I remember blasting on drive home from work every night in the warm summer evenings. Living right was so dope at sunset (no homo). Such a great album.. Real flashes of the wayne i love from back in the day (but with a new twist).

              I would post his prison output i would rank as follows:

              1- dedication 6/6r - no sequence or logic to the track list which is totally fine because it’s a dedication and they’re random ass fucking tapes lol, but it’s just bars bars bars. His best lyrics and most passionate rapping since 2009. First time i ever thought “i think wayne has finally owned this new sound”.

              2- fwa - best album (not project) since c3 when it dropped. Great vibes. Great hooks. Beautiful production. Wayne in good form on all but one or two tracks. This was all about that slow, old school flow i love so much - which is interesting because it came along in his fast phase. Although the second half of s4tw2 had that similar old flow so maybe it was a continuation of that. Either way, i love fwa. It’s like c3 sobered up. Lol

              3- s4tw2 - immensely important project. It was the first time many of us felt hope again after those flashes of c5 greatness were lost. Most wayne mixtapes feel totally random but this one actually felt more like an album than some of his actual albums!! Crazy. I wore this bitch out when it dropped. Great project overal.

              4- s4tw - the only post project which holds the distinction of sounding officially like “the old days”. This tape’s dna can be traced to the classics like dd3, d2, c3, nc... Not on that level but definitely solid and the very very very last of its kind. It was a little bit like an island itself too, because it was sandwiched between two much, much worse projects: Ianahb (part 1) and c4.

              5- nc2 - ugh. This one was not a good one for me. This was way too long with way too much misused auto tune. Funny, d6 is almost like a correction of nc2: Similar flows but he got the lyrics better on d6 with less auto tune, harder bars, and the project was smartly divided into two volumes to make it more digestible (and desirable). Nc2 was like an early blueprint for what d6 would nail perfectly. But there were definitely some nice highlights that showed wayne was working his ass off in the stu’!

              6- d4 - people think i am crazy but i’ve always enjoyed d4 more than d5. For me, d5 had higher highs (fuckin problems, cream, type of way, you song) but the lows were rough as fuck. And it was mostly lows. D5 was not the most inspired project. Once again overly long and not enough substance. D4 on the other hand was three things: (1) a breath of fresh air after the boring passionless c4, (2) a batshit crazy exercise in overreaching to prove relevancy.. Which kind of worked, (3) a lyrical shitshow, overflowing with disgusting amateurish “single entendre” sex lines but just as many hilarious, clever, classic wayne one liners.. If you could catch ‘em fast enough. D4 was also mixed and mastered poorly, only furthering its infamous legacy as the black sheep of the d series. I don’t throw on d4 much but it’s always fun when i do. Stupid shit, but fun.

              7- d5 (see d4 review)

              8- c4 - boring flow, the first sign there was a problem brewing. The fall off point from which we are still recovering. Few decent tracks but it was like a ghost of wayne stood in for him. 6’7, mega man and a couple others were dope but overall a poor excuse for a
              weezy album, let alone a carter installment.

              9- ianahb2 - rock bottom. I don’t know if this was a joke or something but it was a disaster. Don’t need to elaborate. If you know, you know.

              I think that covers it.
              PERRRR-FECTOOOO!!!!! *Ski Mask The Slump God Voice*

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              • #8
                FWA and D6 and D6:R are all 10/10 projects

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shake View Post
                  But IANAHB2 was cool.....
                  lol

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by freakjasp View Post
                    lol
                    You can bump ianahb II in the car, plenty bangers on there, three commercially successful singles with raf, bitches love me and no worries which all bang, then there is the paino intro and gunwalk, god bless amerika ofc. Rapping wise it's pretty trash but the production is dope so good music for the audio system in your car.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Zodiac! View Post
                      You can bump ianahb II in the car, plenty bangers on there, three commercially successful singles with raf, bitches love me and no worries which all bang, then there is the paino intro and gunwalk, god bless amerika ofc. Rapping wise it's pretty trash but the production is dope so good music for the audio system in your car.
                      I agree production is nice but Instill didn’t feel like i should bump it in the last 2 years

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Zodiac! View Post
                        You can bump ianahb II in the car, plenty bangers on there, three commercially successful singles with raf, bitches love me and no worries which all bang, then there is the paino intro and gunwalk, god bless amerika ofc. Rapping wise it's pretty trash but the production is dope so good music for the audio system in your car.
                        very fun enjoyable record the cover art witht hologram or whatever is fire to best packaging in his career HOLLA AT ME




                        #FREEVELVET

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