The lost Grails KILLED both versions of the Carter 5 and funeral

[jhoya101]

Not sure what you mean by killed... quality?

There are really probably 10 total tracks from the IANAHBII/CV leaks that absolutely should have been on those albums.

It amazes me how much people love a track like Road Lizard which has more ridiculous lyrics than the most hated tracks on IANAHBII.

oh hell nah. road lizard is fire. its tht swag/flow we didnt see on the real one. when waynes swag and flow are on point his words are irrelevant. they cant hurt the song. his style to me has always been stronger than his words. but his words are so entertaining too it makes it tht much better. but i agree only 5-10 tracks id add from og cv.

scottie pippen
form good
if i dont shes mine
my niggaz
open safe og
take it slow
neverr really mattered

and i agree. but the crazy thing is just how good some of his leaks are. like a lot of times those 5-10 songs that didnt make the album wouldve been standout/classic like songs. it hurts just cuz some of the leaks are SO much better than some of the filler on the real albums

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LOMC is one of the worst beats I've ever heard and people on here act like it's the greatest song ever.

this. he was spittin his ass off but yeah tht beat is beyond bad. and very outdated. but if came out in 2014 shouldve been on it.

[Mbminas]

the fuck? Hating on the latest Wayne album is a trend here. Lost grails have like 3-4 good songs and lyrically not even close to funeral

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I like the leaked tracks, but they are full of the highest degree of cringe bars of the 2011-14 era

"I fucked a bitch with a broomstick"
"knew a guy who had some weed, he turned out to be fruity tried to suck my johnny apple seed"
"Iguana Vagina"
"My dick a ballerina let me stick it in your leotard"
"Titty banging a bitch that still wear training bras"
"hold my dick above your head like an MVP Award"
"Smelled another dick on her breath and still kissed her"
"when times get hard so does my dick"
"I was fishing in some pussy yesterday and caught a nut"
"she wanna run her fingers though my dick hair"
etc... etc

There is probably less than half of the amount of cringe bars on CV and Funeral combined as the IANAHBII leaks.

The kidnap Cupid lines had something to do with the story, so they weren't corny. But the rest, iono,

[Mbminas]

oh hell nah. road lizard is fire. its tht swag/flow we didnt see on the real one. when waynes swag and flow are on point his words are irrelevant. they cant hurt the song. his style to me has always been stronger than his words. but his words are so entertaining too it makes it tht much better. but i agree only 5-10 tracks id add from og cv.

scottie pippen
form good
if i dont shes mine
my niggaz
open safe og
take it slow

and i agree. but the crazy thing is just how good some of his leaks are. like a lot of times those 5-10 songs that didnt make the album wouldve been standout/classic like songs. it hurts just cuz some of the leaks are SO much better than some of the filler on the real albums

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this. he was spittin his ass off but yeah tht beat is beyond bad. and very outdated. but if came out in 2014 shouldve been on it.

his swag style/flow? Wayne is a rapper not a muppet, ofc the lyrics matter, if you think the swag flow and style matters you must be listening to lil pump everyday

[Tha Mobb]

Not sure what you mean by killed... quality?

There are really probably 10 total tracks from the IANAHBII/CV leaks that absolutely should have been on those albums.

It amazes me how much people love a track like Road Lizard which has more ridiculous lyrics than the most hated tracks on IANAHBII.

I think the hype from being a Leak gets to some of you. It's the same for CIII. Maybe 5-10 of the Empire leaks absolutely should have made the album, but those were leaked a year + before the album.

I am just happy as a Wayne fan to be able to listen to any and all of the leaks and official releases whenever I want!

Why is this so true lmao

Honestly I think it's cuz expectations for an album are really high for most wayne fans, so then they start envisioning some project that wayne never even promised us.. then disappointment hits when they don't get that.

Then leaks come out (which ARE amazing not denying that) and it always seems like the ppl who don't like the official project flock to em...

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In general tho I feel like wayne got a lot of swagger in the leaks and his flow and delivery is ON POINT, where as lyrically his officials albums are the best.

Now if only we could get a good middle point

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the fuck? Hating on the latest Wayne album is a trend here. Lost grails have like 3-4 good songs and lyrically not even close to funeral

Lyrically they're even even tho he spit the lines way better on grail, which makes it better if u ask me. No one's trying to force theirselves to listen to a new flow that no one asked him to do besides the lovers of "problems"

[jhoya101]

his swag style/flow? Wayne is a rapper not a muppet, ofc the lyrics matter, if you think the swag flow and style matters you must be listening to lil pump everyday

nah bro. lil pump aint even close to wayne from a swag, style, flow standpoint. thats what seperates wayne from the best. there are times when juelz, fab and them are just as lyrical and in some cases maybe more than wayne on specific songs. or at least on the same page. but its his swag and delivery that carries him.

wayne even said in tht nightline interview, when he was growing up it was all about how you said it not what you said. his delivery and voice for sure makes him standpoint. and when i mean flow i mean rhyme schmes and switcching it up and stuff. tht seperates wayne from the pack. of course lyrics matter but honestly waynes pure lyrics are usually always nice. its the delivery tht seperates his best from worst. but yes lyrics matter, but yeah his flow is what makes him unique to me. his flow seperates him

like the way he patterns his lyrics is usually all the same. but when he uses tht mama mia delivery in the last minute of the song, it hit me harder

or when he flows like mahogany

[Mbminas]

Lyrically they're even even tho he spit the lines way better on grail, which makes it better if u ask me. No one's trying to force theirselves to listen to a new flow that no one asked him to do besides the lovers of "problems"

He has released around 2k songs and i cant even imagine how many more he has recorded, he cant keep the same style, flow, voice for 25years, he is not 23 years old anymore. he admited on the car test he doesnt want to sound outdated

In 2011 people were crying why he doesnt sound like 2008 anymore, in 2014 they cried that he doesnt sound like 2010 anymore, now in 2020 they cry why he doesnt sound like 2014 anymore, i guess in 2023 they will ask wayne to sound like 2019-20

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He has released around 2k songs and i cant even imagine how many more he has recorded, he cant keep the same style, flow, voice for 25years, he is not 23 years old anymore. he admited on the car test he doesnt want to sound outdated

In 2011 people were crying why he doesnt sound like 2008 anymore, in 2014 they cried that he doesnt sound like 2010 anymore, now in 2020 they cry why he doesnt sound like 2014 anymore, i guess in 2023 they will ask wayne to sound like 2019-20

But why is he caring about sounding outdated? Does he not realize no one else sounds like him? He will never be outdated that's what Eliot should've said in that interview

[jhoya101]

But why is he caring about sounding outdated? Does he not realize no one else sounds like him? He will never be outdated that's what Eliot should've said in that interview

All time great post

[bhawks24]

I think Waynes flow from 2015-current is as good as it's ever been. It was when he started going with more of a slow flow trying to make everything a goofy, funny, entertaining punchline that I feel made the 2011-2013ish era a bit rough (I still like a lot of it!). That's when people in the general public and even here said he fell off.
I could do without most all of the new tracks being autotuned like they are these days, but at least it isn't always so high pitched like S4TW2.

[scrillz5000]

Only killed Funeral TBH. Half of retail CV is ridiculous.