Tha Carter VI (Discussion Thread)

[BrewCityCM]

I actually think the vast majority of people listen to way more old music than anything recent. Only people I know who are always listening to the latest stuff are like 17/18/19 year olds, i.e. the current young adult generation. There's no way that there are more people listening to recent albums than the past 6 decades worth of 'pop' music, let alone classical music etc.

You’ll say anything you can to deny that more people are listening to Thug than Wayne

[KnockMeOut]

You’ll say anything you can to deny that more people are listening to Thug than Wayne

That's not even what I was talking about, I was responding to this thread of conversation:

rarely lol. Most people only play recent music (on rotation)

But keep clinging to my dick little bitch

[martian master]

I actually think the vast majority of people listen to way more old music than anything recent. Only people I know who are always listening to the latest stuff are like 17/18/19 year olds, i.e. the current young adult generation. There's no way that there are more people listening to recent albums than the past 6 decades worth of 'pop' music, let alone classical music etc.

I don't think this is true. Again music is mainly consumed now through streaming - which is calculated into sales. Looking at Billboard's hot 200 albums which accumulates total sales and streams most albums are from the last 2 years.

Looking at the top 20 albums currently, only 1 is from outside the past 2 years.

And I know some people consume music illegally (downloads) which wouldn't be counted on Billboard but that is getting rarer and rarer with downloads harder than ever to find and getting taken down quick.

[KnockMeOut]

I don't think this is true. Again music is mainly consumed now through streaming - which is calculated into sales. Looking at Billboard's hot 200 albums which accumulates total sales and streams most albums are from the last 2 years.

Looking at the top 20 albums currently, only 1 is from outside the past 2 years.

And I know some people consume music illegally (downloads) which wouldn't be counted on Billboard but that is getting rarer and rarer with downloads harder than ever to find and getting taken down quick.

But what is currently selling or streaming the most isn't really what "most people" are listening to. Like if there are 20 albums and ten people are listening to one of them whilst the rest have one listener each most people aren't listening to the most popular one, and a newer one is more likely to be more popular. All the CDs, digital downloads from iTunes/Amazon etc. for "old" albums still exist and are used but not monitored like streams are. I'm sure there are countless people like me who don't stream and still regularly listen to music they bought ten years ago more than anything ew.

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Like Spotify has nearly 300m global users, what percentage of that is represented in the top 20 most popular recent albums on spotify?

[martian master]

But what is currently selling or streaming the most isn't really what "most people" are listening to. Like if there are 20 albums and ten people are listening to one of them whilst the rest have one listener each most people aren't listening to the most popular one, and a newer one is more likely to be more popular. All the CDs, digital downloads from iTunes/Amazon etc. for "old" albums still exist and are used but not monitored like streams are. I'm sure there are countless people like me who don't stream and still regularly listen to music they bought ten years ago more than anything ew.

In your analogy there is 20 albums and 39 people. 10/39 are listening to album A and 1 person each is listening to albums B-T. The majority (most) is listening to album A.

As for CDs, digital downloads, I don't really see people with CD players like at all. Most people stream from their phone. Ofcourse there are people who don't stream but the majority do. RIAA published a music consumption chart earlier this year and I believe streaming made up 75%+.

There will always be people that listen to only old stuff, but the majority seems to be listening to newer material.

[KnockMeOut]

In your analogy there is 20 albums and 39 people. 10/39 are listening to album A and 1 person each is listening to albums B-T. The majority (most) is listening to album A.

As for CDs, digital downloads, I don't really see people with CD players like at all. Most people stream from their phone. Ofcourse there are people who don't stream but the majority do. RIAA published a music consumption chart earlier this year and I believe streaming made up 75%+.

There will always be people that listen to only old stuff, but the majority seems to be listening to newer material.

Nah the majority aren't listening to album A but the largest proportion are, therefore it would chart higher. 19 is more than 10 lol


Is there data on this though:
Like Spotify has nearly 300m global users, what percentage of that is represented in the top 20 most popular or recent albums on spotify?

I mean if you add up all the individual listeners for albums released in the past year what percentage of global spotify users would it amount to?

[martian master]

Nah the majority aren't listening to album A but the largest proportion are, therefore it would chart higher. 19 is more than 10 lol


Is there data on this though:
Like Spotify has nearly 300m global users, what percentage of that is represented in the top 20 most popular or recent albums on spotify?

10 listeners to A > 1 for any other album, 10 being the greater number wouldn't that be the majority
Turning into an English lesson lol

and even still almost all the top 20 albums are newer albums lol... so who's really listening to older albums

and hmm. not albums. atleast per day or anything. I guess you could calculate all time though. Name an older album and I'll calculate it's all time vs. a newer album.

[BrewCityCM]

10 listeners to A > 1 for any other album, 10 being the greater number wouldn't that be the majority
Turning into an English lesson lol

[martian master]

am i misinterpreting it wrong haha

[BrewCityCM]

am i misinterpreting it wrong haha

Nah idk what the education system in London is like

[martian master]

Nah idk what the education system in London is like

i guess it could go both ways. 1a being what KMO meant and 1c being what I meant.

[KnockMeOut]

10 listeners to A > 1 for any other album, 10 being the greater number wouldn't that be the majority
Turning into an English lesson lol

and even still almost all the top 20 albums are newer albums lol... so who's really listening to older albums

and hmm. not albums. atleast per day or anything. I guess you could calculate all time though. Name an older album and I'll calculate it's all time vs. a newer album.

Are you serious? lmao

20 albums. Ten people listening to one. 19 with one listener each. 29 People total. 10/29 are listening to one, 19 people aren't, majority of people aren't listening to it.


Anyway this is basically what I was tying to say... I mean if you add up all the individual listeners for albums released in the past year what percentage of global spotify users would it amount to?

Do they release unique listener numbers?