The Wayne Vs. Kendrick Conundrum

[Tha Mobb]

Listen, as much as I love Kendrick, alot of his hype comes from him being woke and shit. Which is great ofc, but if we're talking pure rapping ability, charisma, versatility, drive... Wayne hands down. Where has Kendrick even been the past three years? The amount of time he takes between his releases, his music better be bangers. Still, Kendrick's definitely a beast and deserves to be hailed as one of the best, and I see why people wanna stan him; for his humbleness and the awareness he raises. Um, it's not my fault wayne doesn't care about that

The reason I stan Wayne is cause he's so unexpected (which is sometimes bad cause you get filler albums) but I'm legit never bored with the endless mixtapes, features, leaks, etc. It sucks though cause when he makes 'deep' songs they're insane (tie my hands, let it all workout, Amen, etc) It's just not his focus, and his bad image and management draws the new gen away. But if people dug deep and listened to his prime stuff? Idk I'm probably being biased cause I was won over from being a Kendrick fan myself lmao... but I just don't see how any other rapper can compare.

[mania983]

Listen, as much as I love Kendrick, alot of his hype comes from him being woke and shit. Which is great ofc, but if we're talking pure rapping ability, charisma, versatility, drive... Wayne hands down. Where has Kendrick even been the past three years? The amount of time he takes between his releases, his music better be bangers. Still, Kendrick's definitely a beast and deserves to be hailed as one of the best, and I see why people wanna stan him; for his humbleness and the awareness he raises. Um, it's not my fault wayne doesn't care about that

The reason I stan Wayne is cause he's so unexpected (which is sometimes bad cause you get filler albums) but I'm legit never bored with the endless mixtapes, features, leaks, etc. It sucks though cause when he makes 'deep' songs they're insane (tie my hands, let it all workout, Amen, etc) It's just not his focus, and his bad image and management draws the new gen away. But if people dug deep and listened to his prime stuff? Idk I'm probably being biased cause I was won over from being a Kendrick fan myself lmao... but I just don't see how any other rapper can compare.

i agree 100% with everything you've said

[lilwayne-carter]

when was the last time kendrick put out an album or a song?

[jhoya101]

Listen, as much as I love Kendrick, alot of his hype comes from him being woke and shit. Which is great ofc, but if we're talking pure rapping ability, charisma, versatility, drive... Wayne hands down. Where has Kendrick even been the past three years? The amount of time he takes between his releases, his music better be bangers. Still, Kendrick's definitely a beast and deserves to be hailed as one of the best, and I see why people wanna stan him; for his humbleness and the awareness he raises. Um, it's not my fault wayne doesn't care about that

The reason I stan Wayne is cause he's so unexpected (which is sometimes bad cause you get filler albums) but I'm legit never bored with the endless mixtapes, features, leaks, etc. It sucks though cause when he makes 'deep' songs they're insane (tie my hands, let it all workout, Amen, etc) It's just not his focus, and his bad image and management draws the new gen away. But if people dug deep and listened to his prime stuff? Idk I'm probably being biased cause I was won over from being a Kendrick fan myself lmao... but I just don't see how any other rapper can compare.

thank u. this.

when was the last time kendrick put out an album or a song?

exactly. he does this. he releases a song or even a project then goes into a cave for 2-3 years.

but surely you realise that this boils down to your personal preference kendrick is objectively a better rapper and artist then wayne in this new age

like i just dont think this is true...hes been more successful but not better

[KnockMeOut]

but surely you realise that this boils down to your personal preference kendrick is objectively a better rapper and artist then wayne in this new age

That doesn't even make sense as a sentence.

[Shake]

Listen, as much as I love Kendrick, alot of his hype comes from him being woke and shit. Which is great ofc, but if we're talking pure rapping ability, charisma, versatility, drive... Wayne hands down. Where has Kendrick even been the past three years? The amount of time he takes between his releases, his music better be bangers. Still, Kendrick's definitely a beast and deserves to be hailed as one of the best, and I see why people wanna stan him; for his humbleness and the awareness he raises. Um, it's not my fault wayne doesn't care about that

The reason I stan Wayne is cause he's so unexpected (which is sometimes bad cause you get filler albums) but I'm legit never bored with the endless mixtapes, features, leaks, etc. It sucks though cause when he makes 'deep' songs they're insane (tie my hands, let it all workout, Amen, etc) It's just not his focus, and his bad image and management draws the new gen away. But if people dug deep and listened to his prime stuff? Idk I'm probably being biased cause I was won over from being a Kendrick fan myself lmao... but I just don't see how any other rapper can compare.

Facts.

[Zimmie]

That doesn't even make sense as a sentence.

How?

[KnockMeOut]

How?

The first part invalidates the second.

[Zimmie]

Ima disagree with you. He might have better production but Wayne is wayyyyyyy more versatile. You know this your self, you want a velvet R&B album which means you enjoy Wayne’s R&B stuff. Wayne can rap, sing and release so much different music and all different types of features because he literally can do it all....All these new features have been incredible by Wayne and his versatility makes him a better artist.

kendrick is better on these fronts: quality control, his raps having substance and reason as well as depth

wayne although he a swiss army knife of styles suffers greatly to his lack of quality assurance his albums are full of filler and are sometimes overextended some of his best stuff is on bootleg mixtapes spread across datpiff.com on this basis kendrick is better and therefore more consistent

wayne bodies him on dna second verse, his don’t kill was more entertaining to me. And Kendrick has no songs on the level of you song, cream, I’m nice, try me, back from the 80s and I might be missin some. And that’s not even mentioning features. Wayne to me is better than Kendrick as a rapper. Kendrick may make better albums but verse for verse, Kendrick may be hotter, but u know just as well as I know, Wayne best stuff is superior.

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lol this

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Like objectively I think wayne is the obvious choice, but that’s only to those who truly have given them both an ear. To mainstream sure they’ll say Kendrick

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How quickly we are forgetting Wayne’s 2015 feature run

this is LITERALLY just your opinion and personal taste like you cannot hope to have a decent conversation about this unless you take away your own personal bias and stannery towards wayne lol

wayne DID NOT body him on DNA come on man take off the stan goggles for a second

Listen, as much as I love Kendrick, alot of his hype comes from him being woke and shit. Which is great ofc, but if we're talking pure rapping ability, charisma, versatility, drive... Wayne hands down. Where has Kendrick even been the past three years? The amount of time he takes between his releases, his music better be bangers. Still, Kendrick's definitely a beast and deserves to be hailed as one of the best, and I see why people wanna stan him; for his humbleness and the awareness he raises. Um, it's not my fault wayne doesn't care about that

The reason I stan Wayne is cause he's so unexpected (which is sometimes bad cause you get filler albums) but I'm legit never bored with the endless mixtapes, features, leaks, etc. It sucks though cause when he makes 'deep' songs they're insane (tie my hands, let it all workout, Amen, etc) It's just not his focus, and his bad image and management draws the new gen away. But if people dug deep and listened to his prime stuff? Idk I'm probably being biased cause I was won over from being a Kendrick fan myself lmao... but I just don't see how any other rapper can compare.

i agree with you the most and i like the way you conveyed your message

thank u. this.




exactly. he does this. he releases a song or even a project then goes into a cave for 2-3 years.




like i just dont think this is true...hes been more successful but not better

kendrick has more substance, reason and quality assurance on these merits alone it puts a lot of his music above waynes catalogue (DISCLAIMER: WHAT I PERSONALLY ENJOY AND LISTEN TO IS NOT FACTORED INTO THIS POST)

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The first part invalidates the second.

Yeah you right i was just trying to say that if you take away your personal bias towards wayne you can clearly identify why people say kendrick is a better rapper thats what i was trying get to but i was writing that on my phone whilst working on something came out oddly

[jhoya101]

kendrick is better on these fronts: quality control, his raps having substance and reason as well as depth

wayne although he a swiss army knife of styles suffers greatly to his lack of quality assurance his albums are full of filler and are sometimes overextended some of his best stuff is on bootleg mixtapes spread across datpiff.com on this basis kendrick is better and therefore more consistent



this is LITERALLY just your opinion and personal taste like you cannot hope to have a decent conversation about this unless you take away your own personal bias and stannery towards wayne lol

wayne DID NOT body him on DNA come on man take off the stan goggles for a second



i agree with you the most and i like the way you conveyed your message




kendrick has more substance, reason and quality assurance on these merits alone it puts a lot of his music above waynes catalogue (DISCLAIMER: WHAT I PERSONALLY ENJOY AND LISTEN TO IS NOT FACTORED INTO THIS POST)

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Yeah you right i was just trying to say that if you take away your personal bias towards wayne you can clearly identify why people say kendrick is a better rapper thats what i was trying get to but i was writing that on my phone whilst working on something came out oddly

lol this is ridicoulous..u cannot really say because one raps about "substance" it is deemed better. there are philophies in english tht disbunk tht whole theory...art is art and a form of expression.. anyone can rap about substance...no one can flow like a jayz or wayne...its just a different level....substance is a choice and though portraying it into enjoyability is a skill, choosing tht is not a skill in itself...u and i both know in our heart of hearts wayne is better...

my biggest argument against the kendrcik debate is most kendirck fans have never heard of dedication 2, or suffix, or blow, or lil weezyana...wayne at those times was just untouchable...and to this day kendrick isnt fucking with tht.. put kendrick on cannon or step back or suck it or not and tell me he competes.. or haterz.. or has more memorable verses on songs like you.. or makes a hook like make it rain,.. or flow like weak.. or bars like ignorant sht... its just not happening.. u and i both know tht.. wayne is just on another level and it really goes without explaining or explantion..it needs no argument.. wayne at his best wa slike magic.. the only one who can be in the same sentence with him is a prime jay or a slim shady lp em..

one could debate for kendrick to make his own lane he had to rap on subject matter.. cuz he cant fuck with wayne on just pure rapping ability, bars, and flows.. its just not even close.. i proved this in my high school.. anytime i showed someone waynes real work and they actually listened to him and his best verses, i heard a guy who is the biggest kendrick fan say, wayne is a better rapper, klendrick is a beter artist... tht is subjective... what conent u like to hear is subjective, but from an all around skill based talent, its wayne and its really not even close... his arsonal is huge and his ability to make an impact as a lyricst is greater than kendrick.. his bars pop. they stick.. its like a different level...i dont think one knows how hard it is to rap in a slow flow and hold someones full attention and to believe it is the best verse like a bedrock or evergyfil in the world.. its just not easy..

my biggest argument is if u listen to each, it needs no explanation.. if u listen to the entirety of each.. u and i both know this.. the mainstream only thinks wayne is hustler musik, a milli, 6 ft 7 ft.. they dont know hot sht, no other, dedication 2, forever dd3 etc. like ita just not close.. im sorry but u and i both know this.. we say its preference but its not..

the subjective argument is overblown and hold no real merrit. waynes bars would literally jump off the page at u.. "and u can suck my wings, stand on my money headbutt yao ming", "half a milli in the safe another in the pillow case, codiene got me moving slower than a caterpillar race"

[KnockMeOut]

kendrick is better on these fronts: quality control, his raps having substance and reason as well as depth

wayne although he a swiss army knife of styles suffers greatly to his lack of quality assurance his albums are full of filler and are sometimes overextended some of his best stuff is on bootleg mixtapes spread across datpiff.com on this basis kendrick is better and therefore more consistent



this is LITERALLY just your opinion and personal taste like you cannot hope to have a decent conversation about this unless you take away your own personal bias and stannery towards wayne lol

wayne DID NOT body him on DNA come on man take off the stan goggles for a second



i agree with you the most and i like the way you conveyed your message




kendrick has more substance, reason and quality assurance on these merits alone it puts a lot of his music above waynes catalogue (DISCLAIMER: WHAT I PERSONALLY ENJOY AND LISTEN TO IS NOT FACTORED INTO THIS POST)

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Yeah you right i was just trying to say that if you take away your personal bias towards wayne you can clearly identify why people say kendrick is a better rapper thats what i was trying get to but i was writing that on my phone whilst working on something came out oddly

Personal bias is what it all comes down to. What you want to hear someone rapping about. Kendrick raps about subjects that most rappers don't talk about and raps about them better than anyone does, nobody raps about anything better than Wayne raps about whatever he's rapping about. You might enjoy Kendricks subject matter or instrumentals or album structure more but to say he is objectively a better rapper than Wayne is just false.

Wayne is like a Picasso or Matisse, an abstract artist and weird individual painting an insane exciting picture in your head, taking you away from the world. Kendrick gives you more political/social commentary with more of a community spirit.

In recent years it's become the norm to consider any art (not just music) which doesn't have some current or historical social commentary behind it (esp. "racial" subjects) to be inferior, lacking "substance", and not worthy of praise.

[mania983]

kendrick is better on these fronts: quality control, his raps having substance and reason as well as depth

wayne although he a swiss army knife of styles suffers greatly to his lack of quality assurance his albums are full of filler and are sometimes overextended some of his best stuff is on bootleg mixtapes spread across datpiff.com on this basis kendrick is better and therefore more consistent



this is LITERALLY just your opinion and personal taste like you cannot hope to have a decent conversation about this unless you take away your own personal bias and stannery towards wayne lol

wayne DID NOT body him on DNA come on man take off the stan goggles for a second



i agree with you the most and i like the way you conveyed your message




kendrick has more substance, reason and quality assurance on these merits alone it puts a lot of his music above waynes catalogue (DISCLAIMER: WHAT I PERSONALLY ENJOY AND LISTEN TO IS NOT FACTORED INTO THIS POST)

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Yeah you right i was just trying to say that if you take away your personal bias towards wayne you can clearly identify why people say kendrick is a better rapper thats what i was trying get to but i was writing that on my phone whilst working on something came out oddly

So you are saying that Kendrick is better rapper than Wayne overall?