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Originally posted by toonchi View PostThere's less songs with substance than on C5. Overall a bit disappointed.
I thought the same thing—C5 was a real statement because it had to be. Remember the hype? C6 almost feels more like a mixtape. Honestly, I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about how good his rapping is on this album. On C5, some of the verses felt a little thin—kind of like FWA, which had fire moments, but didn’t always have the depth of his earlier work.
Tracks like “Dope Niggaz,” “Uproar,” “Famous,” “Hittas,” “Dope New Gospel,” and “Let It All Work Out” were solid, but the lyrics weren’t always as sharp or colorful as shit like “Mona Lisa,” “Let It Fly,” or “Open Letter.” It was a vibe all the way through, however, and the best work he's done since prison.
So far, C6 feels more lyrical and effortless. I’m into heavy wordplay, cultural references, and hard bars—but above all, I love when he delivers with soul. I'm getting that on a lot of tracks here. Am I gonna skip the Weezer remake and the U2 collaboration? Probably lol. This doesn't strike me as a cohesive album in the same way C5 was, but whatever he's going for, I'm into it. Look, I've been waiting nearly 20 years for him to go back to his OG flow (with soul, with depth, with humor) and there's a handful of songs here that are providing that.
I'd rather have substance than flash. It's good if you can manage both, but I'm not sure Wayne can anymore... so give me hard bars and OG flow and I'll be happy.
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Exactly. It's the same every time. The irony is, if people heard Wayne's flow on some of these C6 tracks 5-10 years ago, they'd have said he's back to pre-Rikers form. No joke. I've been listening to Wayne forever, I've been a member here since 2012, I am HARD TO PLEASE. Believe me. I've been through enough Wayne releases that I try to not get overly excited during the honeymoon period, so to speak. Ever since Rikers, his albums tend to fizzle out over time, for me. Even parts of C5, his best work since No Ceilings, can be a little cringe now.
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Originally posted by no_tom&jerry View Post
I thought the same thing—C5 was a real statement because it had to be. Remember the hype? C6 almost feels more like a mixtape. Honestly, I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about how good his rapping is on this album. On C5, some of the verses felt a little thin—kind of like FWA, which had fire moments, but didn’t always have the depth of his earlier work.
Tracks like “Dope Niggaz,” “Uproar,” “Famous,” “Hittas,” “Dope New Gospel,” and “Let It All Work Out” were solid, but the lyrics weren’t always as sharp or colorful as shit like “Mona Lisa,” “Let It Fly,” or “Open Letter.” It was a vibe all the way through, however, and the best work he's done since prison.
So far, C6 feels more lyrical and effortless. I’m into heavy wordplay, cultural references, and hard bars—but above all, I love when he delivers with soul. I'm getting that on a lot of tracks here. Am I gonna skip the Weezer remake and the U2 collaboration? Probably lol. This doesn't strike me as a cohesive album in the same way C5 was, but whatever he's going for, I'm into it. Look, I've been waiting nearly 20 years for him to go back to his OG flow (with soul, with depth, with humor) and there's a handful of songs here that are providing that.
I'd rather have substance than flash. It's good if you can manage both, but I'm not sure Wayne can anymore... so give me hard bars and OG flow and I'll be happy.
Originally posted by no_tom&jerry View Post
On C5, some of the verses felt a little thin—kind of like FWA, which had fire moments, but didn’t always have the depth of his earlier work.
og c5 too
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C6 has Wayne's best rapping since No Ceilings. He has that gravelly elasticity back in his voice, and also he's not over-rhyming the whole time, which is nice to hear. I keep noticing moments where he's basically echoing his flow on earlier projects and features (2005-2009 in particular). People don't realize how much the characteristics of his voice matter. Even that "Rari" song with his annoying kid on it, just listen to the first verse.... he's using his "Live from the 504" voice! On "Bells" I keep thinking he's gonna say "run in this bitch like I got fou' thighs!" lmfao. I'm telling you, this is OG flow and creativity on a lot of tracks... I just think it's been so long y'all can't hear it anymore. Probably also doesn't help that the production is bare-bones at times. I don't mind that. He can rap over windshield wipers for all I care, as long as he raps like this. Now to be clear, I'm not saying he raps like this on every track, but a good handful of them, he does.
I'm honestly not sure what fans want these days -- probably everybody wants a different version of Wayne. Including me. The good news (for me) is that I've been waiting 15 years for him to do anything close to this, so I'm happy right now. I was legit blown the fuck away to see so many lackluster reviews from fans, because when I heard the first few tracks, I was like YES. THIS is what we waited for!
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