Best Rapper Debate Thread

[Franknstein]

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MBDTF is classic? What tracks make it so classic?

1. Dark Fantasy
2. Gorgeous feat. KiD CuDi & Raekwon
3. POWER
4. All Of The Lights (Interlude)
5. All Of The Lights
6. Monster feat. JAY-Z, Rick Ross, Nicki Minaj & Bon Iver
7. So Appalled feat. JAY-Z, Pusha T, Prynce Cy Hi, Swizz Beatz & The RZA
8. Devil In A New Dress feat. Rick Ross
9. Runaway feat. Pusha T
10. Hell Of A Life
11. Blame Game feat. John Legend
12. Lost In The World
13. Who Will Survive In America

[EcstaticPickles]

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Are you drunk right now C1,2,3 are not classics lol.
I'm not hating but fuck no. C2 is a good album with repeat value nothing more. C1 is average. C3 is below average + below expectations.
If any of those is a classic then TML is a classic then too. Wayne's mixtapes are dope tbh, but artists are rated on their albums not mixtapes. Even so only D2 and DD3 are amazing. NC is good with repeat value.

A classic is
MMLP, TES, SSLP
Illmatic
LR, CD, MBDTF
2001, Chronic
Etc...

I know you said IMO but just starting debate.

I dont disagree with all that but i would go ahead and say that's all your opinion . There would be alot of guys who would say MMLP / SSLP is trash. and MBDTF is definitely not a classic. But then again , a classic is just what the listeners entitle it. There is no written definition/qualifications for a classic , correct me if im wrong though. So imma stick with c2 and c3 being a classic . Fuck if MBDTF is a classic then C2 and c3 are definitely classics. c3 was a great mainstream rap album and c2 was one of the (many) greatest rap albums. and im not even being biased towards wayne right now . im not an anne , i dont like anything that wayne shits out. i dunno what i was smoking when i said c1s a classic though , my bad on that one so yeah , IMO wayne's got at least 2 classics.

[Franknstein]

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Whoever says SSLP and MMLP is trash needs to get slapped. Fucking dumbasses lol.
MBDTF is dope is fuck, in my opinion top 3 albums in rap. If you guys think I'm bandwagoning etc, check the album thread, I said it there and still saying it. Album is fucking art.

Now to your points, C2 is definitely Wayne's best album but that doesn't elevate it to classic status. C2 was essentially 7/10 album, above average but nothing too special. C3 is a 4/10, below average and below expectations.

There are a whole bunch of albums which are infinitely better but still haven't attained the classic tag.
GRODT
Massacre
Graduation
Aquaemi
Recovery
Lupe's first two albums
Man on the moon part 1

I know I'll get bashed but honestly those albums are miles better (I know I'll get bashed for saying Cudi's album is better but RR gave it a 9.5)

[EcstaticPickles]

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Whoever says SSLP and MMLP is trash needs to get slapped. Fucking dumbasses lol.
MBDTF is dope is fuck, in my opinion top 3 albums in rap. If you guys think I'm bandwagoning etc, check the album thread, I said it there and still saying it. Album is fucking art.

Now to your points, C2 is definitely Wayne's best album but that doesn't elevate it to classic status. C2 was essentially 7/10 album, above average but nothing too special. C3 is a 4/10, below average and below expectations.

There are a whole bunch of albums which are infinitely better but still haven't attained the classic tag.
GRODT
Massacre
Graduation
Aquaemi
Recovery
Lupe's first two albums
Man on the moon part 1

I know I'll get bashed but honestly those albums are miles better (I know I'll get bashed for saying Cudi's album is better but RR gave it a 9.5)

lol true (the bold part) but i was just giving you a hypothetical situation. C2 is easily 9 and above since there is NO bad song at all . c3 is a classic because it just has so many sounds fused with rap . so i dont really consider c3 a rap album since its very much like a crossover album. mainstream rap ≠ rap . so c3 is a mainstream classic , easily . and thats based on the songs + billions of awards it got. and the albums that you stated DO get alot of recognition whatsoever. Bottomline is that if i say something is classic , doesnt necessarily mean you will say its classic too. its like one mans trash is another mans treasure. well i forgot what i was gonna say so im just gonna post this lol

[Franknstein]

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Lol I'm calling C2 and C3 trash, are they your treasure .

But yeah dude it's all subjective, my opinions are way different to yours. I'm just glad you aren't mindlessly dickriding.

[EcstaticPickles]

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Lol I'm calling C2 and C3 trash, are they your treasure .

But yeah dude it's all subjective, my opinions ate way different to yours. I'm just glad you aren't mindlessly dickriding.

It's funny how our opinions are different but we're on the same page ... gaymoment lol. but yeah , its nice to know that people who have different thoughts can still get along #realshit

[Franknstein]

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It's funny how our opinions are different but we're on the same page ... gaymoment lol. but yeah , its nice to know that people who have different thoughts can still get along #realshit

It's amazing lol, we had an impassè. No names where thrown around we were actually mature about it. Gay moments>>.

[Nethurrr]

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It's funny how our opinions are different but we're on the same page ... gaymoment lol. but yeah , its nice to know that people who have different thoughts can still get along #realshit

lol thats frank for you ;p Also I know what you were smoking when you thought that C1 was classic. It was either Bm.Jr or IMMD

[EcstaticPickles]

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lol thats frank for you ;p Also I know what you were smoking when you thought that C1 was classic. It was either Bm.Jr or IMMD

2 great songs doesnt make an album a classic tbh

[Nethurrr]

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2 great songs doesnt make an album a classic tbh

Im not saying that its a classic but thats what you were hearing, and lol IMMD Is a classic song

And lol C1 has The walks, Go Dj, CMM, ALLAH... its a solid album and could be confused as a classic if there werent so much Wayne hate. lol

[Franknstein]

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Im not saying that its a classic but thats what you were hearing, and lol IMMD Is a classic song

And lol C1 has The walks, Go Dj, CMM, ALLAH... its a solid album and could be confused as a classic if there werent so much Wayne hate. lol

BM Jr. And IMMD are dope, the Walks are the poorer cousin of the Fly's. Go Dj was decent but not my style the rest is Ehhhhhhh.

[EcstaticPickles]

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Im not saying that its a classic but thats what you were hearing, and lol IMMD Is a classic song

And lol C1 has The walks, Go Dj, CMM, ALLAH... its a solid album and could be confused as a classic if there werent so much Wayne hate. lol

true . very true.