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    Originally posted by Young Soo Woopa View Post
    Oh now people are admitted Lebron would get a few rings when a minute ago it was 0, but anyway. Kobe lead his team in assist only means all the players on that team arent that good at passing, i rarely seen kobe even get 6 assist. Jordan had games where he had 50+ pts and over 6 assist, and so has Lebron, I never see Kobe lead a team. LEADING a team is COMPLETELY diffrent then taking over. Leading a team is likE Rondo, Controlling the offense, making the pass, score when needed, setting your team up for a basket and always not your own, Taking over is when you have no choice to go off single handedly to win the game or just simply because ur on fire that night. Kobe tries to take over EVERY night. every now and then he'll set Gasol up for a basketball but na. I can never talk to Laker fans, there all in denial
    cant really speak for everybody else but i always said Lebron would end up gettin a few rings. i just think he's too talented not to win a few. Plus he has D Wade..You rarely see kobe get 6 assist? im not gonna go look up the stats but Kobe averages 5-6 assist a game pretty much every year he has played. And Kobe was not a Leader in the beginning and even the middel of his career. He clearly became a leader when Gasol got there because he saw he had some other talent on the team. The only time he really takes over now is when the team is playing bad or its the end of the game..I cant show you stats to say he became a leader, i can just tell you from being a well educated Laker fan that has seen every game since 2000. He has become a leader

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      Originally posted by BlakeJay View Post
      cant really speak for everybody else but i always said Lebron would end up gettin a few rings. i just think he's too talented not to win a few. Plus he has D Wade..You rarely see kobe get 6 assist? im not gonna go look up the stats but Kobe averages 5-6 assist a game pretty much every year he has played. And Kobe was not a Leader in the beginning and even the middel of his career. He clearly became a leader when Gasol got there because he saw he had some other talent on the team. The only time he really takes over now is when the team is playing bad or its the end of the game..I cant show you stats to say he became a leader, i can just tell you from being a well educated Laker fan that has seen every game since 2000. He has become a leader
      I respect everything u say btw cuz u actually makin sence, but bout dat hilighted part, i know we aint rtalkin bout this, but thats why i see LEbron as a better player cuz Lebron averaged 8-9 assist a year with the CAVS!! they have NO good players and he still managed to be a top 3 pts per game in the leuage, SO if Lebron can be a leader with no talent, thats no excuse why Kobe shouldnt have been a leader before gasol joined the lakers.
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        Originally posted by Young Soo Woopa View Post
        I respect everything u say btw cuz u actually makin sence, but bout dat hilighted part, i know we aint rtalkin bout this, but thats why i see LEbron as a better player cuz Lebron averaged 8-9 assist a year with the CAVS!! they have NO good players and he still managed to be a top 3 pts per game in the leuage, SO if Lebron can be a leader with no talent, thats no excuse why Kobe shouldnt have been a leader before gasol joined the lakers.
        I actually agree with that. Lebron may have more Talent than Kobe ever had. IDK how the hell he got the Cavs to the finals with how Horrible that team was lol..But where Kobe surpasses Lebron is with his mental game..He's an assassin. He just has that killer instinct that is sometimes unstoppable..Only Jordan can match that killer instinct..The way Lebron folded in the finals last year was ridiculous..he is too talented to come up short like that..

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          Originally posted by BlakeJay View Post
          I actually agree with that. Lebron may have more Talent than Kobe ever had. IDK how the hell he got the Cavs to the finals with how Horrible that team was lol..But where Kobe surpasses Lebron is with his mental game..He's an assassin. He just has that killer instinct that is sometimes unstoppable..Only Jordan can match that killer instinct..The way Lebron folded in the finals last year was ridiculous..he is too talented to come up short like that..
          Talent???? Hell no....not talent bro...what constitutes talent.....Lebron's greatest attribute is his physical ability......Kobe is wayyyy more talent...think about it the reason why Lebron is unstoppable is because he is strong, the reason why he is such a good rebounder his physical ability....the reason why he gets to the rim faster his speed....he is physically unmatched....as opposed to Kobe who will score on your anyway possible....
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            Originally posted by BlakeJay View Post
            I actually agree with that. Lebron may have more Talent than Kobe ever had. IDK how the hell he got the Cavs to the finals with how Horrible that team was lol..But where Kobe surpasses Lebron is with his mental game..He's an assassin. He just has that killer instinct that is sometimes unstoppable..Only Jordan can match that killer instinct..The way Lebron folded in the finals last year was ridiculous..he is too talented to come up short like that..
            Very true. Kobes killer instict is more then an assassin. Thats one thing Lebron dosent really have and idk why. If he did it wouldnt be fair simply cuz of his size and abilitly to play every position.
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            Originally posted by Cli-City View Post
            Talent???? Hell no....not talent bro...what constitutes talent.....Lebron's greatest attribute is his physical ability......Kobe is wayyyy more talent...think about it the reason why Lebron is unstoppable is because he is strong, the reason why he is such a good rebounder his physical ability....the reason why he gets to the rim faster his speed....he is physically unmatched....as opposed to Kobe who will score on your anyway possible....
            Lol u just made a excuse for everything Lebron does. Not talent? Cmon dude, whats wrong with you. BEing strong and physical ability dont make you a elite basketball player bro.
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              Originally posted by Young Soo Woopa View Post
              Very true. Kobes killer instict is more then an assassin. Thats one thing Lebron dosent really have and idk why. If he did it wouldnt be fair simply cuz of his size and abilitly to play every position.
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              Lol u just made a excuse for everything Lebron does. Not talent? Cmon dude, whats wrong with you. BEing strong and physical ability dont make you a elite basketball player bro.
              Im not making an excuse....I'm stating that the reason why he is the best player in the NBA is more about him being physically dominant than his talent......I'm not saying he is not talent, that would be stupid, but he not as talent as Kevin Durant, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony or Kobe Bryant...he is physically superior to all of them....in speed, leaping ability, strength...and that is what sets him apart...
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                Originally posted by Cli-City View Post
                Talent???? Hell no....not talent bro...what constitutes talent.....Lebron's greatest attribute is his physical ability......Kobe is wayyyy more talent...think about it the reason why Lebron is unstoppable is because he is strong, the reason why he is such a good rebounder his physical ability....the reason why he gets to the rim faster his speed....he is physically unmatched....as opposed to Kobe who will score on your anyway possible....
                Its not just the scoring though..Lebrons passing and Court vision is amazing. Although Kobe is a very underrated passer, Lebron is the better passer, which is a talent. Lebron can score in many ways, not as many ways as Kobe i agree, but his scoring along with his passing and Physical ability might make him a lil more talented than Kobe

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                  Originally posted by Cli-City View Post
                  Im not making an excuse....I'm stating that the reason why he is the best player in the NBA is more about him being physically dominant than his talent......I'm not saying he is not talent, that would be stupid, but he not as talent as Kevin Durant, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony or Kobe Bryant...he is physically superior to all of them....in speed, leaping ability, strength...and that is what sets him apart...
                  This is what you said, Talent??? Hell No.. seems like u were saying that, but i disagree with every single thing u have said, so i refuse to debate with you, hope you had a nice day and have a wonderful night!
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                    Originally posted by Young Soo Woopa View Post
                    This is what you said, Talent??? Hell No.. seems like u were saying that, but i disagree with every single thing u have said, so i refuse to debate with you, hope you had a nice day and have a wonderful night!

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                    1. The action of declaring something to be untrue.
                    2. The refusal of something requested or desired.

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                      Young Soo Woopa... There is a reason most people say Kobe is and was a better player than LeBron.

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                        Why cant every discussion thread be like this people proving points and speaking opinions without anyone getting butthurt

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                          ^ real talk.


                          But anyways... Huge news this morning.

                          Multiple sources are reporting that Jim Buss (Lakers GM) has given his stance down on not trading Bynum and is looking into the Bynum for Dwight deal.


                          Oh shiiittt!

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                          Other Lakers news as of late -

                          They reached out to Shannon Brown about staying and returning to LA.

                          Also these are players who have stated they are interested to play for the Lakers or the Lakers have reached out too --


                          Jamal Crawford, Shane Battier, Caron Butler, Baron Davis, Rashard Lewis, and Grant Hill.

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