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  • Originally posted by Theonlydjorkaeff View Post
    LoL you're kidding right? Why would Jay appear on Ross' album without a fee? Of course Ross pays. Same as DJ Khaled pays, same as all mediocre rappers have to pay when they want someone serious on their joint
    You do know the "Mediocre" rapper: Rick Ross, appeared on JAY Z's album. "Magna Carter Holy Grail" right? Again, Jay Z's album. So now, how would Rick Ross appear on Jay's album? You think he paid to be on HIS album? Lol. No. They have a relationship. They give each other verses when they need one.

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    • Originally posted by Headliner View Post
      You do know the "Mediocre" rapper: Rick Ross, appeared on JAY Z' album. "Magna Carter The Holy Grail" right? Again, Jay Z's album. So now, how would Rick Ross appear on Jay's album? You think he paid to be on his album? Lol. No. They have a relationship. They give each other verse when they need one.
      You think rappers just go around doing favours for each other in the rap world? No. Jay-Z wanted Rick Ross on a track, so he called Rick Ross and said I want you on the track. If Ross asked for money, I am sure Jay paid him. But when Ross wants Jay on the track, you think Jay just does it out of the kindness of his heart? The guy is worth $600 million. He doesn't do free guest verses.

      It's the same with producers. Just cause Jay and Pharrell are good friends, does that mean Jay never pays him for his beats?

      I will admit that there are a lot of relationships where money isn't exchanged, but that's mostly when rappers are on the same label. Wayne, Drake and Nicki. Jay and Kanye. 50 Cent and Eminem. But when Kendrick Lamar appeared on MMLP2 on Love Game, I'd be you Eminem paid for it, and was happy to do so.

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      • Originally posted by Theonlydjorkaeff View Post
        You think rappers just go around doing favours for each other in the rap world? No. Jay-Z wanted Rick Ross on a track, so he called Rick Ross and said I want you on the track. If Ross asked for money, I am sure Jay paid him. But when Ross wants Jay on the track, you think Jay just does it out of the kindness of his heart? The guy is worth $600 million. He doesn't do free guest verses.

        It's the same with producers. Just cause Jay and Pharrell are good friends, does that mean Jay never pays him for his beats?

        I will admit that there are a lot of relationships where money isn't exchanged, but that's mostly when rappers are on the same label. Wayne, Drake and Nicki. Jay and Kanye. 50 Cent and Eminem. But when Kendrick Lamar appeared on MMLP2 on Love Game, I'd be you Eminem paid for it, and was happy to do so.
        C'mon man. Now you're saying Eminem payed Kendrick for a verse. Lmao. If you look into interviews or songs, Kendrick praises him and looks up to him. He would be more than happy to send him a verse with NO FEE at all.

        Also, you don't realize how many songs Ross and Jay have, huh? When you have a relationship with a fellow rapper and you speak to each other on a constant basis. You DON'T CHARGE THEM for a feature. If you're a low level rapper with no fame or buzz, they're going to charge. But not if you're cool with them or have a big buzz of your own.

        Producers and Rappers are completely different, but they're two components that you need for a song, right? So of course they're going to charge for the beat. But do you think producers are going to charge other producers for collabs, that are within the same caliber? No.
        Last edited by Headliner; 11-12-2014, 07:47 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Headliner View Post
          C'mon man. Now you're saying Eminem payed Kendrick for a verse. Lmao. If you look into interviews or songs, Kendrick praises him and looks up to him. He would be more than happy to send him a verse with NO FEE at all.

          Also, you don't realize how many songs Ross and Jay have, huh? When you have a relationship with a fellow rapper and you speak to each other on a constant basis. You DON'T CHARGE THEM for a feature. If you're a low level rapper with no fame or buzz, they're going to charge. But not if you're cool with them or have a big buzz of your own.

          Producers and Rappers are completely different, but they're two components that you need for a song, right? So of course they're going to charge for the beat. But you think producers are going to charge other producers for collabs, that are within the same caliber? No.
          I dunno.. I still think Ross would pay Jay for his verse. I will admit that I have no knowledge outside of lyrics I've heard, and I'd be interested to see if anyone else has knowledge? Maybe I will make a thread on it. But I can't see Rick Ross just calling Jay up twice in a year and getting him to drop by the studio for more music.. They're rappers, they get paid to rap. If Wayne didn't get paid to jump on every fucking 2 chainz, Khaled, Chris Brown, Busta Rhymes etc etc track all he would be doing with his life is sitting in the studio doing free verses..

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          • Originally posted by Headliner View Post
            C'mon man. Now you're saying Eminem payed Kendrick for a verse. Lmao. If you look into interviews or songs, Kendrick praises him and looks up to him. He would be more than happy to send him a verse with NO FEE at all.

            Also, you don't realize how many songs Ross and Jay have, huh? When you have a relationship with a fellow rapper and you speak to each other on a constant basis. You DON'T CHARGE THEM for a feature. If you're a low level rapper with no fame or buzz, they're going to charge. But not if you're cool with them or have a big buzz of your own.

            Producers and Rappers are completely different, but they're two components that you need for a song, right? So of course they're going to charge for the beat. But you think producers are going to charge other producers for collabs, that are within the same caliber? No.
            If rappers and producers don't ask for money for verses, hooks, etc, then they wouldn't make money.

            That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

            That's how the music industry works, especially in hip/hop. No matter how good of friends you are, it's still BUSINESS.
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            • Originally posted by IAmChristian_ View Post
              If rappers and producers don't ask for money for verses, hooks, etc, then they wouldn't make money.

              That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

              That's how the music industry works, especially in hip/hop. No matter how good of friends you are, it's still BUSINESS.
              You're a moron if you think most of rapper's money come from features. LMAO. Also, It seems to me that you didn't even read what I typed.. Re-read what I said, please. Before making yourself look an idiot. Not to mention I already explained the features above. But.

              Answer this, do you think Young Thug paid for Wayne's verse on Take Care? Did Drake pay for Soulja Boy's feature for We Made It? Did Nicki Minaj buy a Soulja Boy verse and hook also? I mean damn, man. READ what I say, not just a few words sporadically.
              Last edited by Headliner; 11-12-2014, 08:22 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Headliner View Post
                You do know the "Mediocre" rapper: Rick Ross, appeared on JAY Z's album. "Magna Carter Holy Grail" right? Again, Jay Z's album. So now, how would Rick Ross appear on Jay's album? You think he paid to be on HIS album? Lol. No. They have a relationship. They give each other verses when they need one.
                Lol no. Ross pays Jay Z don't.

                Ross had to pay to be on MCHG or he wouldn't have been on there lol. And jay has GOAT status. Its a blessing for ross both ways.
                ​repetition is the father of learning

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                • Originally posted by Immaculate View Post
                  Lol no. Ross pays Jay Z don't.

                  Ross had to pay to be on MCHG or he wouldn't have been on there lol. And jay has GOAT status. Its a blessing for ross both ways.
                  Ross had to pay JAY Z to be on MCHG?! In which they both had a hit "FuckWithMeYouKnowiGotit....." But, he paid to put his verse and hook on there? What are smoking? Why would he go out of his way to give him a verse and hook.... and pay him to put it on his album. That makes no sense at all.

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                  • Originally posted by Headliner View Post
                    Ross had to pay JAY Z to be on MCHG?! In which they both had a hit "FuckWithMeYouKnowiGotit....." But, he paid to put his verse and hook on there? What are smoking? Why would he go out of his way to give him a verse and hook.... and pay him to put it on his album. That makes no sense at all.
                    Do you not know who Jay Z is lol.
                    ​repetition is the father of learning

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                    • Originally posted by Headliner View Post
                      You're a moron if you think most of rapper's money come from features. LMAO. Also, It seems to me that you didn't even read what I typed.. Re-read what I said, please. Before making yourself look an idiot. Not to mention I already explained the features above. But.

                      Answer this, do you think Young Thug paid for Wayne's verse on Take Care? Did Drake pay for Soulja Boy's feature for We Made It? Did Nicki Minaj buy a Soulja Boy verse and hook also? I mean damn, man. READ what I say, not just a few words sporadically.
                      Soulja boy produced we made it didn't he? So yes, drake would've had to pay soulja boy. These guys don't just do shit for free.. It's like me, I am a freelance writer, and I wrote for a huge paper once. I still got paid, I didn't do it for free just cause it was the Sydney morning herald.

                      Jay is not going to appear on a record for free. Kanye probably even has to pay, although he probably pays in hot beats

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                      • Originally posted by Theonlydjorkaeff View Post
                        Soulja boy produced we made it didn't he? So yes, drake would've had to pay soulja boy. These guys don't just do shit for free.. It's like me, I am a freelance writer, and I wrote for a huge paper once. I still got paid, I didn't do it for free just cause it was the Sydney morning herald.

                        Jay is not going to appear on a record for free. Kanye probably even has to pay, although he probably pays in hot beats
                        Soulja Boy didn't produce "We Made It," though. Lol. Honestly, it feels like i'm talking to a brick wall here. Like I said earlier and it seems to be flying over your heads, when you have a relationship with a fellow rapper and have a big buzz of your own, You DON'T CHARGE THEM for features. How do you not understand that?

                        Lets put it in perspective, If Sonny Digital wanted to collab with Metro Boomin on a beat, they're both skilled and well established. Right? He wouldn't charge a thing to collab with him because they're on the same caliber. If it was some no-name producer and he wanted to work with Sonny or Metro. Then they would CHARGE the no-name producer because they're not on the same caliber!
                        Last edited by Headliner; 11-12-2014, 10:51 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by Headliner View Post
                          Soulja Boy didn't produce "We Made It," though. Lol. Honestly, it feels like i'm talking to a brick wall here. Like I said earlier and it seems to be flying over your heads, when you have a relationship with a fellow rapper and have a big buzz of your own, You DON'T CHARGE THEM for features. How do you not understand that?

                          Lets put it in perspective, If Sonny Digital wanted to collab with Metro Boomin on a beat, they're both skilled and well established. Right? He wouldn't charge a thing to collab with him because they're on the same caliber. If it was some no-name producer and he wanted to work with Sonny or Metro. Then they would CHARGE the no-name producer because they're not on the same caliber!
                          Do you have any evidence to back this up?

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