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  • #37
    Originally posted by KidComet View Post
    But if your talking about removing evil all together, then he can but he wont, if there was no evil, like I said, we would be forced to only do good, because there wouldnt be a second choice, but God loves us that much that we can still sin, and he will still accept us.
    So, let me get this straight. You just said God is evil. He let's us sin.
    He lets us create Obey t-shirts and illuminati? If you ask me, you just said God and the devil are the same person because he is able to stop all the evil, but not willing.

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    • #38
      Originally posted by Woocky View Post
      So, let me get this straight. You just said God is evil. He let's us sin.
      He lets us create Obey t-shirts and illuminati? If you ask me, you just said God and the devil are the same person because he is able to stop all the evil, but not willing.

      Okay, lets say God removed all evil in the world. Then you wouldnt be able to listen to your precious odd future, or smoke your precious weed, or have sex with your precious women. But God loves us enough to allow us to sin, and sin is the one thing that seperates us from God, and he will still accept us, He sent Jesus dwn to earth to die for us, to allow us to be forgiven and have salvation. God isnt evil, evil is evil.

      Yes God lets us sin bro, we have free will, you should open your eyes and see how much God truly loves us, to be able to allow us to sin and still accept us with open arms.


      Now imagine if we had no free will, You would be forced to worship God, Not out of Love, but outta the fact that there was no bad

      Be like a robot, God didnt want that, God knows the future, and he has a plan, and his plan for everyone will be set out for everyone no matter what


      You cant tell me there isnt a God, I seen prayers get answered, I had my prayers answered, I seen people get healed before my eyes in church, this aint nothing fake bro, Just because you dont believe in God, doesnt mean he aint there

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      • #39
        Originally posted by Woocky View Post
        Yes, a lot is related to the bible and it Christianity made some crucial changes to the world. I agree.
        But you're tunnel visioned bro. All you can relate to is god and/or the devil.

        You say Obey was the devil's work. Sure, but it's hard to believe that every damn trademark out there is organised by Satan Perhaps that's exactly what Obey wants you to think. Meanwhile, you think about the pictures on the shirts and so you memorize them. It's all psychology, no spiritual gods or devils needed.

        Also, if I want money, I work and earn money. I don't get nothing from the devil nor god.

        And what's holy without sin? What's good without bad?
        The world is not going to reflect the image of Satan. If I had to start a new brand, I'd do the same thing as Obey and put as many Illuminati shit on t-shirts as possible. People are obsessed with it and it's a hype. More and more people are being atheist because there's 0,000000 proof of any kind of god or devil, and therefore the Obey shirts are selling great. Perhaps that's where Tyler the Creator is getting some fame from.

        I find it really, really hard to believe there's a god. Shit, just, happens. Religion started because people wanted to explain the un-explainable. Remember when Thor was the lightning god? It's not a god. It's just science. Boom, Thor is gone.
        If you want to believe in a god, go ahead. But there's nothing that proves anything. Prove me wrong.

        ---------- Post added at 09:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:31 PM ----------

        Found this nice quote from Epicusus:

        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
        Then he is not omnipotent.
        Is he able, but not willing?
        Then he is malevolent.
        Is he both able, and willing?
        Then whence cometh evil?
        Is he neither able nor willing?
        Then why call him God?
        God stay basement for a reason, so the devil can surface.
        Once the devil surfaces, mind's get reversed, people "lose control".
        God recognize real, leaves the "rest' alone.
        God works.... lazy brain's don't... they stay dormant.
        Energize ya brain and god will surface, inside ur frame.

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        • #40
          I was taking shit serious until the sig.

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          • #41
            Originally posted by KidComet View Post
            Okay, lets say God removed all evil in the world. Then you wouldnt be able to listen to your precious odd future, or smoke your precious weed, or have sex with your precious women. But God loves us enough to allow us to sin, and sin is the one thing that seperates us from God, and he will still accept us, He sent Jesus dwn to earth to die for us, to allow us to be forgiven and have salvation. God isnt evil, evil is evil.

            Yes God lets us sin bro, we have free will, you should open your eyes and see how much God truly loves us, to be able to allow us to sin and still accept us with open arms.


            Now imagine if we had no free will, You would be forced to worship God, Not out of Love, but outta the fact that there was no bad

            Be like a robot, God didnt want that, God knows the future, and he has a plan, and his plan for everyone will be set out for everyone no matter what
            So he lets us do things we shouldn't do?
            And if he allows us to sin, why bother to punish us for that? I mean, we're allowed to sin, you say.

            Tbh, you are the one who should open your eyes.
            Please, link me some straight up facts and substantiated sites that prove that god exists.


            Originally posted by KidComet View Post
            You cant tell me there isnt a God, I seen prayers get answered, I had my prayers answered, I seen people get healed before my eyes in church, this aint nothing fake bro, Just because you dont believe in God, doesnt mean he aint there
            Think these people weren't praying? The Holocaust ​*Click
            Where was god when 17 million people died while praying?
            Fuck god.

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            • #42
              Originally posted by Woocky View Post

              Tbh, you are the one who should open your eyes.
              Please, link me some straight up facts and substantiated sites that prove that god exists.
              "because it says in the bible and god wrote the bible so HA"
              Taken from a Christian forum lmao, it was from a thread named "100 reasons why atheist are wrong"

              that was like number 1 so you can Imagine how lame the other reasons were.

              So i wouldn't even ask him for proof, because you will most likely get some delusional response.
              Last edited by Mr. Postman; 10-19-2012, 01:21 PM.

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              • #43
                Originally posted by Dexter. View Post
                Taken from a Christian forum lmao, it was from a thread named "100 reasons why atheist are wrong"

                that was like number 1 so you can Imagine how lame the other reasons were.

                So i wouldn't even ask him for proof, because you will most likely get some delusional response.
                Srsly, I don't understand religious people. I respect them, but I don't understand how you can believe in a god so badly.

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                • #44
                  Originally posted by Woocky View Post
                  Think these people weren't praying? The Holocaust ​*Click
                  Where was god when 17 million people died while praying?
                  Fuck god.
                  Cycle of life.

                  People die every minute, but every 3 seconds a baby is born. That's just one way to look at it.

                  Why we blame God for everything? For example, poor kids who don't have anything to eat is not gods reason for dying, we as humans who would use millions and millions for our pleasure in life and not even think of putting a couple is dollars to donate for those type of kids...you can call it a test from god that we probably all fail to pass. That's another way you can look at it.

                  Those people who live miserably die young, maybe they lived a couple of years in this life, living it hard..but they die, and I'm pretty sure god send them to a better place.

                  You don't even need to find a reply for my post, because I'm sure you will find some reply some how to tell me that believing in god is not logical, even though to me believing in god is the most logical thing. So just save time...
                  Originally posted by Shake
                  Why so negative all the time???

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                  • #45
                    Originally posted by Woocky View Post
                    Think these people weren't praying? The Holocaust ​*Click
                    Where was god when 17 million people died while praying?
                    Fuck god.
                    They where the victims of another mans sin.. who abused the free will God gave us


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                    • #46
                      Originally posted by Woocky View Post
                      So he lets us do things we shouldn't do?
                      And if he allows us to sin, why bother to punish us for that? I mean, we're allowed to sin, you say.

                      Tbh, you are the one who should open your eyes.
                      Please, link me some straight up facts and substantiated sites that prove that god exists.




                      Think these people weren't praying? The Holocaust ​*Click
                      Where was god when 17 million people died while praying?
                      Fuck god.
                      Yes were allowed to sin lol.

                      Dude, Im coming from someone who used to reject God so much bro, I hated him, I never believed in him lol.
                      I USED to be blind, but now I opened up my eyes and see the truth,

                      Yes, those people who died while praying are in heaven now, You think thats the first time a lot of people died?

                      Christians were called Puritans before, and they killed the puritans, a bunch of them. the bible says that believes in God will be persecuted and killed for the name of Jesus.

                      And Im not religious lol, religion has nothing to do with it bruh, I just Follow God's word, and dont live my life like a fool, with the partying, drinking, sexing and what not.

                      You may not do that either, but having a relationship with God is really important.

                      And the reason why us Chrisitans believe in God so much is because he gives us so much Joy in our life, and he answers prayers bro, he really does. ITs crazy bro.

                      How can you say you dont believe in something you never tried tho,
                      Until you actually give your life to God, and go to church and pray and feel God with you, then you can come back and say you don't believe.

                      Im serious tho, so many people just don't believe in God, when they dont even try it out frist. If you actually Go to a good church with the holy spirit with an open heart, and worship God, You will feel it too.

                      And you say "f*** God" but why?
                      A lot of people say, "Omg if there is a God, why doesnt he save those children in Africa, What about those african children who die without knowing God, blah blah blah"

                      Well MY friend met a pastor who actually went to Africa to preach the word of God, and they rejected it, they didnt wanna hear it,



                      See the think you gotta understand is, God works through people. Like one time, (I live in south texas) I went tho this church, And the pastor was preaching in spanish, but it was the specifice day that he was preaching in only spanish idk why,

                      So I was sitting down, listening to this spanish preacher, i didnt understand a word... And I just prayed to God, I was like "God, please help me understand this sermon, please, I wanna understand it Lord" I was hoping he would some how magically give me the ability to understand spanish, but no, All of a sudden, my friend looks at me and ask if I want him to translate for me, I was like woah yes.

                      And he translated the whole sermon.

                      Amen, Thats God right there.


                      But what if I never prayed to God, and asked him to let me understand the sermon, would my friend still have did the same? Was it just a coincidence?

                      You decide.

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                      • #47
                        ^ I went to church as a kid and I felt like money in the trash, like what am i doing hereeeee

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                        • #48
                          Originally posted by Dexter. View Post
                          ^ I went to church as a kid and I felt like money in the trash, like what am i doing hereeeee
                          So did I bro, So Did I,

                          We were to young to understand, and to actually get the spirit. You should Go back bro, but with an open heart willing to accept jesus,
                          But go to a church with the spirit tho, Dont go to no catholic church or no boring baptist church, Go to one where you will have fun prasing Jesus, I go to a church where they have a live band, and its awesome,

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