I was in denial too, but Weezy really is done. :sad:

[Sportz]

Re: I was in denial too, but Weezy really is done. :sad:

It's been a series of bad decisions. First Rebirth, than releasing IANAHB as an album instead of being a mixtape, than Drake and Nicki becoming faces just as big as Wayne repping YM, and since he's came out of jail he's literally been all.over.the.place - and not in a good way. He should have gotten out and gotten straight to the album business, instead of overexposing himself and putting himself on literally EVERYONE'S record. This isn't 07 anymore Wayne, you don't need to do that anymore, if anything that will hurt you more than it helped you the last time you did it. Showing no progression with singles like 6'7' and John didn't help either, were they hits? Sure, but the people they appealed to weren't going to be any new faces buying his album, that was the problem. All of this hurt that position of power he once had in 07-08.

How To Love is the first time in a long time I've felt he's made a good decision about the album, which is a good thing, however a 2 month push back is beyond ridiculous. I just hope he gets himself together and completely focuses on this album. It doesn't even seem like he cares right now, dropping songs left and right, random videos dropping, random verses on other peoples songs, it's like he doesn't have a solid plan on what he's doing.

That said, Anne and Nightmares are very promising. How To Love is dope and even though I think they were bad single choices 6'7' and John were dope songs. C4 seems like it will be quality which matters in the end, but I still believe if he really plays his cards right from this point on he can still be that same force, it just depends on how much Wayne himself seems like he wants it, he just doesn't seem as hungry as other successful rap artists are right now. **Not to take anything away from his work ethic which I know is above almost anyone, but this goes beyond that**

I disagree with everything in bold.

[RockLikeAFossil]

Re: I was in denial too, but Weezy really is done. :sad:

I disagree with everything in bold.

I respect that, that's just the way I feel, I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with a lot of what I said, it's all opinions at the end of the day right?

Care to elaborate on why you disagree with those though? I'd be interested in reading.

[IceMan]

Re: I was in denial too, but Weezy really is done. :sad:

It's been a series of bad decisions. First Rebirth, than releasing IANAHB as an album instead of being a mixtape, than Drake and Nicki becoming faces just as big as Wayne repping YM, and since he's came out of jail he's literally been all.over.the.place - and not in a good way. He should have gotten out and gotten straight to the album business, instead of overexposing himself and putting himself on literally EVERYONE'S record. This isn't 07 anymore Wayne, you don't need to do that anymore, if anything that will hurt you more than it helped you the last time you did it. Showing no progression with singles like 6'7' and John didn't help either, were they hits? Sure, but the people they appealed to weren't going to be any new faces buying his album, that was the problem. All of this hurt that position of power he once had in 07-08.

How To Love is the first time in a long time I've felt he's made a good decision about the album, which is a good thing, however a 2 month push back is beyond ridiculous. I just hope he gets himself together and completely focuses on this album. It doesn't even seem like he cares right now, dropping songs left and right, random videos dropping, random verses on other peoples songs, it's like he doesn't have a solid plan on what he's doing.

That said, Anne and Nightmares are very promising. How To Love is dope and even though I think they were bad single choices 6'7' and John were dope songs. C4 seems like it will be quality which matters in the end, but I still believe if he really plays his cards right from this point on he can still be that same force, it just depends on how much Wayne himself seems like he wants it, he just doesn't seem as hungry as other successful rap artists are right now. **Not to take anything away from his work ethic which I know is above almost anyone, but this goes beyond that**

I think the other artists wanted Wayne on their records

[ChrisBLawyer]

Re: I was in denial too, but Weezy really is done. :sad:

That's correct.

Welp..just proves exactly what I said. The idiotic posts on this site.

lol @ suggesting Nicki not being on the tour made them go smaller....when its really cuz its summer time and its out doors.

[ghostgoon]

Re: I was in denial too, but Weezy really is done. :sad:

Get the fuck out of here.... Wiz Khalifa will never be a top rapper.. ever. and Rick Ross aint holdin any thing down. he will always be a second tier rapper never a top 5 rapper, he cant even get a platinum album and wayne kills him on every song they our on together.

[Sportz]

Re: I was in denial too, but Weezy really is done. :sad:

I respect that, that's just the way I feel, I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with a lot of what I said, it's all opinions at the end of the day right?

Care to elaborate on why you disagree with those though? I'd be interested in reading.

Not trying to get into an argument. Just like you have your opinion, I have my own. No need for me to explain. But I do want to know why allowing Drake and Nicki to get big was a bad idea. And they are not as big as Wayne.

@ghostgoon I agree that Wayne has merked Ross on every track they have been on.

[BlakeJay]

Re: I was in denial too, but Weezy really is done. :sad:

It's been a series of bad decisions. First Rebirth, than releasing IANAHB as an album instead of being a mixtape, than Drake and Nicki becoming faces just as big as Wayne repping YM, and since he's came out of jail he's literally been all.over.the.place - and not in a good way. He should have gotten out and gotten straight to the album business, instead of overexposing himself and putting himself on literally EVERYONE'S record. This isn't 07 anymore Wayne, you don't need to do that anymore, if anything that will hurt you more than it helped you the last time you did it. Showing no progression with singles like 6'7' and John didn't help either, were they hits? Sure, but the people they appealed to weren't going to be any new faces buying his album, that was the problem. All of this hurt that position of power he once had in 07-08.

How To Love is the first time in a long time I've felt he's made a good decision about the album, which is a good thing, however a 2 month push back is beyond ridiculous. I just hope he gets himself together and completely focuses on this album. It doesn't even seem like he cares right now, dropping songs left and right, random videos dropping, random verses on other peoples songs, it's like he doesn't have a solid plan on what he's doing.

Understand where ur coming from..seems like your more concerned about album sales than the quality of the album..we all want Wayne to sell well but i want a good quality album above everything else

[WEEZYFUCKINBBY11590]

Re: I was in denial too, but Weezy really is done. :sad:

It's been a series of bad decisions. First Rebirth, than releasing IANAHB as an album instead of being a mixtape, than Drake and Nicki becoming faces just as big as Wayne repping YM, and since he's came out of jail he's literally been all.over.the.place - and not in a good way. He should have gotten out and gotten straight to the album business, instead of overexposing himself and putting himself on literally EVERYONE'S record. This isn't 07 anymore Wayne, you don't need to do that anymore, if anything that will hurt you more than it helped you the last time you did it. Showing no progression with singles like 6'7' and John didn't help either, were they hits? Sure, but the people they appealed to weren't going to be any new faces buying his album, that was the problem. All of this hurt that position of power he once had in 07-08.

How To Love is the first time in a long time I've felt he's made a good decision about the album, which is a good thing, however a 2 month push back is beyond ridiculous. I just hope he gets himself together and completely focuses on this album. It doesn't even seem like he cares right now, dropping songs left and right, random videos dropping, random verses on other peoples songs, it's like he doesn't have a solid plan on what he's doing.

That said, Anne and Nightmares are very promising. How To Love is dope and even though I think they were bad single choices 6'7' and John were dope songs. C4 seems like it will be quality which matters in the end, but I still believe if he really plays his cards right from this point on he can still be that same force, it just depends on how much Wayne himself seems like he wants it, he just doesn't seem as hungry as other successful rap artists are right now. **Not to take anything away from his work ethic which I know is above almost anyone, but this goes beyond that**

this^^ tha truth, tha whole truth, and nothing but tha truth..

[ChrisBLawyer]

Re: I was in denial too, but Weezy really is done. :sad:

I think the other artists wanted Wayne on their records

Nah, How can? Wayne just forces artists to work with him so he can overexpose himself. Not cuz all artists use him to get air play.

Demand = Supply.

[RockLikeAFossil]

Re: I was in denial too, but Weezy really is done. :sad:

I think the other artists wanted Wayne on their records

Oh of course, I didn't mean to say it like that, I know everyone wants Wayne on their records, who wouldn't? It's just that I feel like he is overexposing himself. For me it's like, when I hear about Jay or Eminem collaborating with someone who's newer, like Jay being on Cole's debut or Eminem being on B.o.B's album, there's a certain hype that I feel like Wayne has lost when he does the same, because he's worked with everyone and their momma. It's just not that big of a deal to get a Wayne feature because who can't anymore? They just call him up and he's like sure, whereas I feel like if tomorrow a new artist said he's working with Jay - there in general would be more hype because it would be like 'goddamn he got Jay?'. I feel like Wayne is in that position of power where he should start doing that, not putting himself everywhere. But that's just me again - I'm sure a lot of people love hearing Wayne verses as much as possible, I sure do, but half the songs he is featured on barely have any replay value because he's working with mediocre artists who don't deserve a Wayne feature. Feel me?

[IceMan]

Re: I was in denial too, but Weezy really is done. :sad:

Nah, How can? Wayne just forces artists to work with him so he can overexpose himself. Not cuz all artists use him to get air play.

Demand = Supply.

[Sportz]

Re: I was in denial too, but Weezy really is done. :sad:

Oh of course, I didn't mean to say it like that, I know everyone wants Wayne on their records, who wouldn't? It's just that I feel like he is overexposing himself. For me it's like, when I hear about Jay or Eminem collaborating with someone who's newer, like Jay being on Cole's debut or Eminem being on B.o.B's album, there's a certain hype that I feel like Wayne has lost when he does the same, because he's worked with everyone and their momma. It's just not that big of a deal to get a Wayne feature because who can't anymore? They just call him up and he's like sure, whereas I feel like if tomorrow a new artist said he's working with Jay - there in general would be more hype because it would be like 'goddamn he got Jay?'. I feel like Wayne is in that position of power where he should start doing that, not putting himself everywhere. But that's just me again - I'm sure a lot of people love hearing Wayne verses as much as possible, I sure do, but half the songs he is featured on barely have any replay value because he's working with mediocre artists who don't deserve a Wayne feature. Feel me?

See, but I think the complete opposite. To me, Wayne isn't overexposing himself and I would much rather have a lot of features from him than only a few (like Em and Jay). All of the songs except Dirty Dancer that Wayne has featured on since getting out of jail have been, in my opinion, good to great.