Since Wayne has Ultimately

[Sportz]

Re: Since Wayne has Ultimately

Fucking Dead.

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Yeah, I don't agree with that statement either. He is better than Pac and Big.

[ScHeEzZ]

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No, I don't disagree with the definition; that is an accurate definition of a sell out. I just don't agree that Lil Wayne fits that definition.

right, that's what i was trying to say.

so, who then, if not lil wayne, would fit that description to you?

[@RealDeal_McNeal]

Re: Since Wayne has Ultimately

Fucking Dead.

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my opinion

[Sportz]

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right, that's what i was trying to say.

so, who then, if not lil wayne, would fit that description to you?

Nobody, actually. The definition of "artist" implies freedom in the artist's art, so I don't believe that sell outs exist. Subconsciously, an artist may make a song to cater to a particular audience, but that does not mean it isn't what he or she wanted to do. I feel that selling out implies that the sole reason for making a specific type of song was to gain money and/or fans. When you watch Lil Wayne sing How to Love, Lollipop, or Got Money live you can easily tell that he didn't make those songs just for making money and new fans.

[Cody]

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I didn't say it was rock, I was saying he is/was trying to get the attention of rock listeners

I didn't aim that at you.

[TheRealMH]

If wanting to go down for being known for more than one of the greatest rappers... then yes wayne has sold out and if he does do a pop album i wont be mad lol ill listen but ill be like

"He didnt make that shit for me.. thats not what i like" oh well maybe other ppl will like it

but like he said he will keep rapping cause he know we like that shit.

Call Wayne what you want but he the best alive. only Pac beats Weezy in my book...Wayne and BIG are equal imo.

So you do agree he's a sell out

But hey, I ain't mad about that shit, that's where all y'all got it twisted
Im cool with him being a sell out
He can do that shit, and there are plenty of songs he uses to try & get attention of other people that I like.
But don't go and tell me he does it because he doesn't give a fuck what people think about him/his music

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I didn't aim that at you.

Lol you quoted me so i was like huh what?

[Sportz]

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So you do agree he's a sell out

But hey, I ain't mad about that shit, that's where all y'all got it twisted
Im cool with him being a sell out
He can do that shit, and there are plenty of songs he uses to try & get attention of other people that I like.
But don't go and tell me he does it because he doesn't give a fuck what people think about him/his music

Every song he makes is to get attention. If it wasn't, he wouldn't be making songs. And that goes for every artist. In fact, that goes for every profession (though not specific to songs).

[@RealDeal_McNeal]

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Wait how long ago was No Ceilings??? was that him selling out?
Oh he is still doing "Carter's" so he forgot his roots?
oh another Dedication is coming?

i dont understand the sell-out part. talk to me cause im not ignorant ill listen to your points

[ScHeEzZ]

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Nobody, actually. The definition of "artist" implies freedom in the artist's art, so I don't believe that sell outs exist. Subconsciously, an artist may make a song to cater to a particular audience, but that does not mean it isn't what he or she wanted to do. I feel that selling out implies that the sole reason for making a specific type of song was to gain money and/or fans. When you watch Lil Wayne sing How to Love, Lollipop, or Got Money live you can easily tell that he didn't make those songs just for making money and new fans.

to each his own, man. to me, that's exactly what has happened.

i want c2/da drought 3 wayne back, no more bullshit auto tune or songs for the ladies or even generic club bangers with recycled "We in the building.." or "Life's a bitch.." lines. i want to hear crack over wax.

[Cody]

Re: Since Wayne has Ultimately

Wait how long ago was No Ceilings??? was that him selling out?
Oh he is still doing "Carter's" so he forgot his roots?
oh another Dedication is coming?

i dont understand the sell-out part. talk to me cause im not ignorant ill listen to your points

My oh my. Reread the OP.

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Lol you quoted me so i was like huh what?

That's why I spaced that out lol

[TheRealMH]

Every song he makes is to get attention. If it wasn't, he wouldn't be making songs. And that goes for every artist. In fact, that goes for every profession (though not specific to songs).

Other people, meaning people who wouldn't listen to wayne if he just made Hip Hop records.

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That's why I spaced that out lol

lol I'm stupid

[Sportz]

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to each his own, man. to me, that's exactly what has happened.

i want c2/da drought 3 wayne back, no more bullshit auto tune or songs for the ladies or even generic club bangers with recycled "We in the building.." or "Life's a bitch.." lines. i want to hear crack over wax.

Well, I can't say that I want that Wayne back because I like the "new" Wayne a lot also, but I will tell you that C2 and DD3 are both amazing. And I do agree that the "We in the building" and "Life's a bitch" lines need to go. He needs to stop with the "I beat the pussy up" as well. The only lines I enjoy hearing over and over again are the "Weezy F Baby and the F is for," "Long hair, don't care," "It's the remix baby," and "Young Mulah, baby."