[OFFICIAL] Tha Carter V Discussion Thread

[dametri426]

ok there aint NO WAY Rick Ross and Jay-Z swapped verses. Fuck. Why do I have to keep talking about this.

I assume no-one has read Empire State Of Mind, all about Jay-Z's business dealings?

The dude has not once in his life (apart from charity) dont ANYTHING FOR FREE!! It is six figures, minimum, for business ventures. Why in the world would Jay-Z want to be on a Rick Ross album for free? I know that Jay 'broke' Ross as an artist back in the mid 00s when he signed him on Def Jam, but that doesnt mean shit anymore. Ross is independent of Jay and Roc Nation now. There's no way he is jumping on a Ross joint purely out of the kindness of his heart.

I was watching a 2 Chainz interview on the breakfast club, and they asked him about how much he charges for a verse, and whether he does freebies. he said he doesnt do freebies or swaps. Everyone pays. Regardless of name and status. rappers dont just wander around doing free verses for their mates. I am sure some do, but havent you read all the shit about how much easier it is for a rapper to get a feature from someone on their own label? They have contractual obligations! A Roc Nation artist doesnt just 'jump on' a track from an MMG artist. There's royalties to be divided, there's executives who have to get paid.

Man.

Wayne and Drake? They're label mates. Wayne and Nicki? Label mates. Ab-Soul and Kendrick? Same.

Do a tiny bit of research before you start throwing shit around..

if that is true then jay is sorta of asshole ,if im a drake , lil wayne, or Eminem there is no way in hell im paying past 200k for a verse based on who I am

[Theonlydjorkaeff]

You're right, but actually Wayne gave 'Hello Brooklyn' too Jay-Z upon request by Hova, in turn Wayne was getting a new feature (Mr. Carter) for Carter 3.

if that is true then jay is sorta of asshole ,if im a drake , lil wayne, or Eminem there is no way in hell im paying past 200k for a verse based on who I am

it will all be label paying label at that level. im sure it would end up with, say, jay paying waynes label for his hello brooklyn verse, then waynes label returning the favour for mr carter

I am not saying exchanges dont happen. But on a purely financial level, labels and stakeholders have to get paid, thats just life. There's a lot of legal mumbo jumbo tied up in this crap.

Mixtapes are different I would imagine, since they are usually done independently of a label and a record contract.

But youre right, no way Em is paying Wayne 200k for a verse. But there's also no way Jay is jumping on a Rick Ross or Jeezy track for free

[Lucifer]

this piece of bitch is the corniest thing I've ever seen lmao

y?

[WeEeEeEzZzZyYy]

You're right, but actually Wayne gave 'Hello Brooklyn' too Jay-Z upon request by Hova, in turn Wayne was getting a new feature (Mr. Carter) for Carter 3.

when is the original version of that song with q-tip dropping brah

[WeezyFan]

when is the original version of that song with q-tip dropping brah

soon

[back on my bullish*t]

http://youtu.be/fJDv4jrCSPs mrs officer part 2, hello!

he too irrelevant now

[Theonlydjorkaeff]

he too irrelevant now

Nah no one is truly irrelevant.

Except 50 cent

[WeEeEeEzZzZyYy]

will this be on c5 or the free weezy album?

i hope the FWA

[TUNE KNOWLEDGE]

will this be on c5 or the free weezy album?

i hope the FWA

Dude..... Its so damn weird how when this snippet came out I thought it was the weirdest thing Wayne had ever done. Now after everything it sounds normal. Haha

[KaNNis]

We should be fucking certain Believe Me was a Drake song for "Views from the 6/If You're Reading This It's Too Late", the entire album is full with beat switches, the formula is the same. I'm okay with that tho, its dope.

[WeEeEeEzZzZyYy]

Dude..... Its so damn weird how when this snippet came out I thought it was the weirdest thing Wayne had ever done. Now after everything it sounds normal. Haha

what do you mean?

cause of his voice lol?

[TUNE KNOWLEDGE]

what do you mean?

cause of his voice lol?

Yeah. Haha. I was praying that song wasnt on C5 but now I think it sounds dope.