'The Free Weezy Album' Anticipation Thread.

[LilTunƎchi]

I heard it ... Sounds terrible

How tf does it sound terrible? There isnt even any wayne or mannie part on it lmao just the beginning of the beat and a voice that's saying 'u know that she need a rider' .. Which could turn out to be a christina song afterall..

[Im Raw Dawg]

sounds like wayne at the end maybe?

idnt hear it. but maybe this song would explain his ride or die tweet. but idk bcuz he deleted it

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How tf does it sound terrible? There isnt even any wayne or mannie part on it lmao just the beginning of the beat and a voice that's saying 'u know that she need a rider' .. Which could turn out to be a christina song afterall..

couldnt make out that part til you posted this. good shit. or she just got exclusive wayne songs lol

[VinoMambaKobe]

so im not buggin def sounded like it was sayin " rider " right?

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watch it be her song or some other artist not wayne

Yeah deff saying rider

[TyIquan]

maybe because i got in to Wayne when he "sold out"?

"Selling out is a common idiomatic pejorative expression for the compromising of a person's integrity, morality, authenticity, or principles in exchange for personal gain, such as money"

Show me where he compromised his integrity, morality, authenticity or principles? Wayne constantly changed his style up. C1 was produced entirely by Mannie Fresh, and then C2 was an EPIC stylistic change for him. Diverse features which he'd never had before. On C1, he slowed his rapping down so much from 500 Degreez. Why? To appeal to more listeners. Why did he diversify his sound on C2? To appeal to more listeners.

I am not denying Wayne changed his style on C3. I am saying that it isn't selling out. It's not even close. All Wayne rapped about was gangster shit and money. How you gonna say someone who invented the term "bling" can sell out?! He never compromised his authenticity, his integrity, morality or principles.

And if you claim it is because the C3 sessions were much different to the actual C3, then blame Tez and co for their track listing.

is Kanye a sell-out for singing on 808s the way Wayne did on Lollipop? Is Andre 3k a sell-out for making Hey Ya, something he'd never even come close to making before?!

Just because something is commercially successful does not mean it is a sell out.

And that's exactly what I said. You weren't listening to him before he blew up so you say he hasn't sold out. He did. His flow changing doesn't have shit to do with him selling out. You can't sit here and say that you know WHY he changed his flow up on C1. Who knows? But his LYRICAL CONTENT AND SUBJECT MATTER changed to appeal to more people after 06/07. Yes, his flows have always changed, but his STYLE most definitely remained constant up until his big breakthrough. C2 was so different because it HAD to be. There's only one Mannie Fresh. He didn't aim to diversify his sound. He lost his producer of his whole career. He HAD to adapt.

Lollipop and just about everything afterwards is totally different in tone and content. Now his only real street shit is on street songs he features on.

I'm sure you could have a conversation with a real Kanye fan who'd say that yes, he did sell out. But he wasn't as heavily grounded in a certain style of content as Wayne either.

3 Stacks? No. That wasn't a track out of nowhere that'd surprise anyone from someone like him.

And what the hell does him rapping about money have to do with whether or not he sold out?

[Theonlydjorkaeff]

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Seriously, wtf is so hard to understand about this? I wasn't even 10 in the 90s, but I'm not talking strictly the 90s. I'm talking up til bout C3 leaked and Wayne started being everywhere and kinda made a shift during C3.

Just because you aren't totally unknown or conscious doesn't mean you can't sell out. Wayne's music was very "conscious" for street niggaz. That was his demo. His one and only demo. Once white people started fuckin with him, he started catering to them. Once the world started fuckin with him, he took it down some more. It's really not that hard to see or understand. Wayne's focus wasn't punchlines until he started getting attention for it, at which point he started shoving them in every bar. Around 07-08.

When I first heard Lollipop and A Milli I fuckin hated them. I can appreciate them now to an extent, but I had no idea where that shit had come from upon my first listens. It took a little while for me to get over his change.

It's like Jeezy leaving his street music. Yeah, Wayne still talks street shit, because that's who he is, but he doesn't make street records at all anymore. He sold out. And I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Sometimes I feel like I probably respect Wayne more than anyone here(because this site is mostly a bunch of batching), and he'll forever be my number 1 of all time, but he did sell out.

I don't see how you can have a music blog and not understand things like this.[

i dont entirely disagree w this, but i dont think its an issue of selling out. especially in regards to punchlines and such..


what i do think happens.. is a dilution of language.. ie dumbing it down. he doesnt really change his content too much, but his phrasing, his slang, his coding.. his pace.. his structure all changes when hes making a song w mass appeal.

even on glory.. i feel like a lot of his english there is pretty straight forward.

for me it begins on i feel like dying tho.


ive always figure he had to get the cool white kids first.. before the bubblegum cowd, and that summer all the little indie kids were flipping over i cant feeel like dying.. cos it wayne was finally slow enough to be understood.



since then.. i could book it.

if everyone is feeling wayne, all at once, at the same time. chances are his english is super simpleand easy to understand. if hes really hot, he makes it work. and we get glory.

if no one is listeninger to wayne, its probably they cant crack his codeg and hes being ridiculously nice.. and no one can really pick it up. like grindng, where ppl think drake had a better verse..

Exactly my point. It's not selling out, but it's most definitely a change of style. I was one of the indie white kids who loved I feel like dying. I can understand how older Wayne fans might be disappointed, but Wayne said it himself

"If we too simple, yall don't get the basics". He said that before he blew up, and it's instructive of more than just criticism towards his slowing down and simplifying of rhymes. I don't think he simplified anyway, I never saw Wayne as a lyrical masterpiece. He slowed his cadence down but that doesn't mean he simplified his lyrical content. His punchlines on D2 and DD3 are intricate, and he added more emotional depth to his lyrics

[EastsideBoi89]

Whoever said that snippet sounds horrible needs to leave. Sounds like it'll be flames, especially with the sample on some StreetRunner ish

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Exactly my point. It's not selling out, but it's most definitely a change of style. I was one of the indie white kids who loved I feel like dying. I can understand how older Wayne fans might be disappointed, but Wayne said it himself

"If we too simple, yall don't get the basics". He said that before he blew up, and it's instructive of more than just criticism towards his slowing down and simplifying of rhymes. I don't think he simplified anyway, I never saw Wayne as a lyrical masterpiece. He slowed his cadence down but that doesn't mean he simplified his lyrical content. His punchlines on D2 and DD3 are intricate, and he added more emotional depth to his lyrics

i think the most simplified hes ever been was on carter 4, but i begun to appreciate that album for what it is in the past year or so.. but now more than ever.. i think waynes been a full blown lyrical genius his entire career. to the point.. where i think calling him lyrical is nearly a disservice..

wayne can flat out write/speak his ass off.

[VinoMambaKobe]

Whoever said that snippet sounds horrible needs to leave. Sounds like it'll be flames, especially with the sample on some StreetRunner ish

I said it. I ain't leaving tho pussy

[lilwayne-]

olly molly polly solly holly tolly n so on
no hate G u doin ur thang u deserve the love

but quit typing LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO
after potraying ur harsh offending emotions

no one have to be nice to u because u do what u do
over here

for eg FUCK YOU MAN LMAO @OllyCarterz
for u
U bitch ass trick LMAO

i m not hating as I typed LMAO

[Lucifer]

olly molly polly solly holly tolly n so on no hate G u doin ur thang u deserve the love but quit typing LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO after potraying ur harsh offending emotions no one have to be nice to u because u do what u do over here for eg FUCK YOU MAN LMAO @OllyCarterz for u U bitch ass trick LMAO i m not hating as I typed LMAO

go get some sleep

[LilTunƎchi]

olly molly polly solly holly tolly n so on
no hate G u doin ur thang u deserve the love

but quit typing LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO
after potraying ur harsh offending emotions

no one have to be nice to u because u do what u do
over here

for eg FUCK YOU MAN LMAO @OllyCarterz
for u
U bitch ass trick LMAO

i m not hating as I typed LMAO

[freakjasp]

Whoever said that snippet sounds horrible needs to leave. Sounds like it'll be flames, especially with the sample on some StreetRunner ish

This tbh
Sample sounds like its from c3 era
But yeah probably a song from tina