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yall think there will be any news on this new mannie track
or do yall think we wont get any news and it wont be released?
or do yall think we wont get any news and it wont be released?
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I hate them thirsty bitches
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maybe because i got in to Wayne when he "sold out"?Originally posted by TyIquan View Post
"Selling out is a common idiomatic pejorative expression for the compromising of a person's integrity, morality, authenticity, or principles in exchange for personal gain, such as money"
Show me where he compromised his integrity, morality, authenticity or principles? Wayne constantly changed his style up. C1 was produced entirely by Mannie Fresh, and then C2 was an EPIC stylistic change for him. Diverse features which he'd never had before. On C1, he slowed his rapping down so much from 500 Degreez. Why? To appeal to more listeners. Why did he diversify his sound on C2? To appeal to more listeners.
I am not denying Wayne changed his style on C3. I am saying that it isn't selling out. It's not even close. All Wayne rapped about was gangster shit and money. How you gonna say someone who invented the term "bling" can sell out?! He never compromised his authenticity, his integrity, morality or principles.
And if you claim it is because the C3 sessions were much different to the actual C3, then blame Tez and co for their track listing.
is Kanye a sell-out for singing on 808s the way Wayne did on Lollipop? Is Andre 3k a sell-out for making Hey Ya, something he'd never even come close to making before?!
Just because something is commercially successful does not mean it is a sell out.Comment
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What have I started should a never said he sold out. Good Ness gracious
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christina was playin a song on her snap that sounded like it was a sample sayin riderComment
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whats her snapOriginally posted by Im Raw Dawg View Post
I hate them thirsty bitches
Cut them off like circumcision
-Lil WayneComment
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[QUOTE=TyIquan;1425206]Seriously, wtf is so hard to understand about this? I wasn't even 10 in the 90s, but I'm not talking strictly the 90s. I'm talking up til bout C3 leaked and Wayne started being everywhere and kinda made a shift during C3.
Just because you aren't totally unknown or conscious doesn't mean you can't sell out. Wayne's music was very "conscious" for street niggaz. That was his demo. His one and only demo. Once white people started fuckin with him, he started catering to them. Once the world started fuckin with him, he took it down some more. It's really not that hard to see or understand. Wayne's focus wasn't punchlines until he started getting attention for it, at which point he started shoving them in every bar. Around 07-08.
When I first heard Lollipop and A Milli I fuckin hated them. I can appreciate them now to an extent, but I had no idea where that shit had come from upon my first listens. It took a little while for me to get over his change.
It's like Jeezy leaving his street music. Yeah, Wayne still talks street shit, because that's who he is, but he doesn't make street records at all anymore. He sold out. And I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Sometimes I feel like I probably respect Wayne more than anyone here(because this site is mostly a bunch of batching), and he'll forever be my number 1 of all time, but he did sell out.
I don't see how you can have a music blog and not understand things like this.[
i dont entirely disagree w this, but i dont think its an issue of selling out. especially in regards to punchlines and such..
what i do think happens.. is a dilution of language.. ie dumbing it down. he doesnt really change his content too much, but his phrasing, his slang, his coding.. his pace.. his structure all changes when hes making a song w mass appeal.
even on glory.. i feel like a lot of his english there is pretty straight forward.
for me it begins on i feel like dying tho.
ive always figure he had to get the cool white kids first.. before the bubblegum cowd, and that summer all the little indie kids were flipping over i cant feeel like dying.. cos it wayne was finally slow enough to be understood.
since then.. i could book it.
if everyone is feeling wayne, all at once, at the same time. chances are his english is super simpleand easy to understand. if hes really hot, he makes it work. and we get glory.
if no one is listeninger to wayne, its probably they cant crack his codeg and hes being ridiculously nice.. and no one can really pick it up. like grindng, where ppl think drake had a better verse..Comment
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so im not buggin def sounded like it was sayin " rider " right?Originally posted by VinoMambaKobe View Post
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watch it be her song or some other artist not wayneComment
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