Do you think we will see a third peak by Wayne?

[lilwayne-carter]

Too bad he won't link up with Thugger.

maybe cause he tried to kill him?

yep that’s why he should collab with younger artists “if” he wanna stay hot

codiene dreamin is the biggest song off the kodak album

biggest song and best song

[tdaddyhart]

I’ve been a fan of Wayne since hot boys days... did I miss the 2nd peak? Lmao cus to my knowledge he only peaked once. From 05-09. Carter 4 was not peak Wayne and I love Carter 4. Tbh no artist will never technically “peak” again there is only 1 peak. Em peaked. 50 peaked. Drake peaked. There is only 1 peak.

[Zimmie]

I’ve been a fan of Wayne since hot boys days... did I miss the 2nd peak? Lmao cus to my knowledge he only peaked once. From 05-09. Carter 4 was not peak Wayne and I love Carter 4. Tbh no artist will never technically “peak” again there is only 1 peak. Em peaked. 50 peaked. Drake peaked. There is only 1 peak.

Wayne was massive in C4 Era what you on about its obviously a peak when your album one of the best selling and your singles ans merchandise are globally recognised and your random mixtape you did for fans is one of the mosr downloaded OAT

[tdaddyhart]

Wayne was massive in C4 Era what you on about its obviously a peak when your album one of the best selling and your singles ans merchandise are globally recognised and your random mixtape you did for fans is one of the mosr downloaded OAT

Yea C4 era was enormous just like Views era for Drake was enormous... was that peak Drake.? That’s what the fuck I’m on about. An artist can only peak once. Michael Jackson Thriller is his peak. Jay Z Blueprint is his peak. Eminem The Eminem show is his peak.... doesn’t matter how big an album coming out is about to sell. Yea sftw and C4 were great... but C3 was the highest Wayne will ever get and he’ll never be able to top that... I don’t think we’ll ever see an artist get that big again atleast I haven’t hip hop wise...and no I’m not sayin C3 is his best work because imo it’s C2/Like Father Like Son.. but he peaked at C3. Maybe you need to look up the definition of “peak” again.

[tmk08c]

I’ve been a fan of Wayne since hot boys days... did I miss the 2nd peak? Lmao cus to my knowledge he only peaked once. From 05-09. Carter 4 was not peak Wayne and I love Carter 4. Tbh no artist will never technically “peak” again there is only 1 peak. Em peaked. 50 peaked. Drake peaked. There is only 1 peak.

This is EXACTLY what I was saying. How can someone say Wayne peaked since he released a GOAT tape just because. In 06 alone he dropped d2, drought 3, blow w/ juelz, and about 4 more tapes. All were better than s4tw1. Wayne was on fire at the time of C4, but in terms of hype, quality, AND quantity, he wasn't anywhere near what he was.

[Zimmie]

Yea C4 era was enormous just like Views era for Drake was enormous... was that peak Drake.? That’s what the fuck I’m on about. An artist can only peak once. Michael Jackson Thriller is his peak. Jay Z Blueprint is his peak. Eminem The Eminem show is his peak.... doesn’t matter how big an album coming out is about to sell. Yea sftw and C4 were great... but C3 was the highest Wayne will ever get and he’ll never be able to top that... I don’t think we’ll ever see an artist get that big again atleast I haven’t hip hop wise...and no I’m not sayin C3 is his best work because imo it’s C2/Like Father Like Son.. but he peaked at C3. Maybe you need to look up the definition of “peak” again.

no such definition for "peak" but you can definitely peak more then once for example

Weezy peaked with C3 dipped for a bit with rebirth re gained some balance with No Ceilings went prison and there was TONS of hype around him and he came back very strong with C4 starting his second peak


you even stated it has nothing to do with music quality so in that case we can categorise hype as being a significant factor

[juiceman25]

2 chainz, juicy j, gucci mane & eminem are some examples of people who have peaked in multiple times throughout their careers so I totally understand what you mean and I think wayne can peak again

[tdaddyhart]

Well then we need to change the definition of peak then. Cus to my knowledge PEAK is the highest you can ever get and there’s no other option then to go down... and to juicemans point Juicy J don’t count cus back in 2012-2013 in school I remember people not knowing him from 3 6 mafia they legit thought he was a new artist... if we’re talking Juicy j solo he has already peaked in 2013... and your an idiot for saying Eminem peaked twice.. I want you to tell me when has Eminem ever gotten as big as he did in 2002 with Eminem Show and 8 mile ? That’s a peak. He won’t ever get that big again. As for 2 Chainz.. he peaked in 2012. Just because an artist comes and makes some noise again guys doesn’t mean they are fucking peaking again. Good lord. Lil Wayne will never be big as he got back in 07/08 ever again plain and simple. He’s a legend leave it alone. Same with Drake, while he’s still huge he’s peaked already and a legend.

[juiceman25]

Well then we need to change the definition of peak then. Cus to my knowledge PEAK is the highest you can ever get and there’s no other option then to go down... and to juicemans point Juicy J don’t count cus back in 2012-2013 in school I remember people not knowing him from 3 6 mafia they legit thought he was a new artist... if we’re talking Juicy j solo he has already peaked in 2013... and your an idiot for saying Eminem peaked twice.. I want you to tell me when has Eminem ever gotten as big as he did in 2002 with Eminem Show and 8 mile ? That’s a peak. He won’t ever get that big again. As for 2 Chainz.. he peaked in 2012. Just because an artist comes and makes some noise again guys doesn’t mean they are fucking peaking again. Good lord. Lil Wayne will never be big as he got back in 07/08 ever again plain and simple. He’s a legend leave it alone. Same with Drake, while he’s still huge he’s peaked already and a legend.

Eminem went ghost from 05-09. He went back to the top of the game with recovery in 2011.

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Well then we need to change the definition of peak then. Cus to my knowledge PEAK is the highest you can ever get and there’s no other option then to go down... and to juicemans point Juicy J don’t count cus back in 2012-2013 in school I remember people not knowing him from 3 6 mafia they legit thought he was a new artist... if we’re talking Juicy j solo he has already peaked in 2013... and your an idiot for saying Eminem peaked twice.. I want you to tell me when has Eminem ever gotten as big as he did in 2002 with Eminem Show and 8 mile ? That’s a peak. He won’t ever get that big again. As for 2 Chainz.. he peaked in 2012. Just because an artist comes and makes some noise again guys doesn’t mean they are fucking peaking again. Good lord. Lil Wayne will never be big as he got back in 07/08 ever again plain and simple. He’s a legend leave it alone. Same with Drake, while he’s still huge he’s peaked already and a legend.

And I know one person can only have 1 highest peak but there's definitely times in artists careers where they go through some valleys but some are able to get back to the top of the mountain again (aka peak)

[W$VY]

While I do think he may never reach C3 levels again, I think he has it in him to get close. This is assuming he wins the lawsuit.

"3 Peak" has a nice ring to it

[tmk08c]

Well then we need to change the definition of peak then. Cus to my knowledge PEAK is the highest you can ever get and there’s no other option then to go down... and to juicemans point Juicy J don’t count cus back in 2012-2013 in school I remember people not knowing him from 3 6 mafia they legit thought he was a new artist... if we’re talking Juicy j solo he has already peaked in 2013... and your an idiot for saying Eminem peaked twice.. I want you to tell me when has Eminem ever gotten as big as he did in 2002 with Eminem Show and 8 mile ? That’s a peak. He won’t ever get that big again. As for 2 Chainz.. he peaked in 2012. Just because an artist comes and makes some noise again guys doesn’t mean they are fucking peaking again. Good lord. Lil Wayne will never be big as he got back in 07/08 ever again plain and simple. He’s a legend leave it alone. Same with Drake, while he’s still huge he’s peaked already and a legend.

This is all correct. I appreciate you speaking facts. A peak is a pinnacle, a one time thing. People can have multiple points of great success, but a peak is something that cannot be matched. As you said, for Wayne this was 06-09, when he dropped insane amounts of quality music and had more hype than i've ever seen a rapper have. Eminem, as you said, peaked in the early 2000s. Recovery and relapse were nice, but nothing compared to hype surrounding him w MM EP and Em Show.

[Zimmie]

Well then we need to change the definition of peak then. Cus to my knowledge PEAK is the highest you can ever get and there’s no other option then to go down... and to juicemans point Juicy J don’t count cus back in 2012-2013 in school I remember people not knowing him from 3 6 mafia they legit thought he was a new artist... if we’re talking Juicy j solo he has already peaked in 2013... and your an idiot for saying Eminem peaked twice.. I want you to tell me when has Eminem ever gotten as big as he did in 2002 with Eminem Show and 8 mile ? That’s a peak. He won’t ever get that big again. As for 2 Chainz.. he peaked in 2012. Just because an artist comes and makes some noise again guys doesn’t mean they are fucking peaking again. Good lord. Lil Wayne will never be big as he got back in 07/08 ever again plain and simple. He’s a legend leave it alone. Same with Drake, while he’s still huge he’s peaked already and a legend.

we can call it a "spike" then lol Eminem spiked with Recovery and Juicy J is a perfect example of multiple "spikes"



if we want to check on stats then according to interest via google (aka where everyone sources there information

https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...=%2Fm%2F016kjs

we can see that 2011 saw a massive growth in interest as well as the C3 era and strangely IANAHB2 era

also if we look at Eminem

https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...%2Fm%2F01vsgrn it confirms my point that he also "spiked" during recovery era


the way i see it an artist has an ultimate "PEAK" that solidifies there position in music and where the most important shaping of that artist occurs (eg C3)

then any "SPIKE" afterwards is particular hype/expectation around particular projects Wayne very clearly spiked twice so there you go