Russia Invading Ukraine

[WeezySVK]

People keep saying nothing will happen, but its only get worse day by day , week by week.

Crimea is now officially a part of Russia and ppl are happy with it, and NATO with the USA aint doin shit, its over.

[KidComet]

Crimea is now officially a part of Russia and ppl are happy with it, and NATO with the USA aint doin shit, its over.

Oh really, is that what cnn told you?
They just shot a soldier today and killed 2 reporters, its barely getting started

[WeezySVK]

Oh really, is that what cnn told you?
They just shot a soldier today and killed 2 reporters, its barely getting started

Well just checked that and ur right but still, there will be only some disorders and small conflicts between Russian and Ukraine soldiers and thats it, no WW3 gonna happen.

[KidComet]

Well just checked that and ur right but still, there will be only some disorders and small conflicts between Russian and Ukraine soldiers and thats it, no WW3 gonna happen.

Russia Military has yet to back down. Nothing is stopping anytime soon

[MarkoMaxX]

Crimea officially part of Russia!

US is calling referendum against international law. But it's THE SAME referendum they had on Kosovo when it was declared independent. It was held only on Kosovo (they didn't even held it, it was just declared) and this one was also held only on Crimea territory.

US and EU "made up" their international law, and now it backfired on them!

How you gonna stop Crimea from being part of Russia, when you used and allowed the same "law" not so long ago and 96% people in Crimea voted positive!

They allowed and SUPPORTED Kosovo when they did the same, why can't they support Crimea and Russia with their decision?!

Because they shat their pants, Crimea and Sevastopol is a strategy war base for domination of that part of Europe, just like Kosovo is a strategic part for dominating Balkan part of Europe.

European Union and US are just too funny now, it's not to late to come through and admit they were wrong.

US brought the sanctions to Russian ministers, and one of the Russian minister said that the only thing that interests him about US is 2Pac, Ginsberg and Polak..

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Crimea is now officially a part of Russia and ppl are happy with it, and NATO with the USA aint doin shit, its over.

Are you happy with it? What do you think about it?

[WeezySVK]

Crimea officially part of Russia!

US is calling referendum against international law. But it's THE SAME referendum they had on Kosovo when it was declared independent. It was held only on Kosovo (they didn't even held it, it was just declared) and this one was also held only on Crimea territory.

US and EU "made up" their international law, and now it backfired on them!

How you gonna stop Crimea from being part of Russia, when you used and allowed the same "law" not so long ago and 96% people in Crimea voted positive!

They allowed and SUPPORTED Kosovo when they did the same, why can't they support Crimea and Russia with their decision?!

Because they shat their pants, Crimea and Sevastopol is a strategy war base for domination of that part of Europe, just like Kosovo is a strategic part for dominating Balkan part of Europe.

European Union and US are just too funny now, it's not to late to come through and admit they were wrong.

US brought the sanctions to Russian ministers, and one of the Russian minister said that the only thing that interests him about US is 2Pac, Ginsberg and Polak..

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Are you happy with it? What do you think about it?

I dont live there, but when the people living there accept it as a part of Russia then why not, but I dont agree that Russia just came there with their army and took over but what can we do, its better like this hope no sanctions will be given towards Russia or they will stop supporting the whole Europe with gas and oil cuz and would end very bad for the whole EU.

[MarkoMaxX]

I dont live there, but when the people living there accept it as a part of Russia then why not, but I dont agree that Russia just came there with their army and took over but what can we do, its better like this hope no sanctions will be given towards Russia or they will stop supporting the whole Europe with gas and oil cuz and would end very bad for the whole EU.

Thats something I also don't agree with. But since EU once allowed that way of declaring independence, then they should allow it again. And that's why I support it.

US and EU are acting ridicilous, actually not just them, it's also Canada, Japan. They are all against it, but they are not against Kosovo independence, why? It's basically same thing.

[Bill Laimbeer]

Thats something I also don't agree with. But since EU once allowed that way of declaring independence, then they should allow it again. And that's why I support it.

US and EU are acting ridicilous, actually not just them, it's also Canada, Japan. They are all against it, but they are not against Kosovo independence, why? It's basically same thing.

Ok, I stayed out of this thread for a while. I researched the Kosovo war a bit, it looks like a large part of the war there and the intervention from NATO was because the ethnic cleansing of Albanians carried out by the Serbian army through orders through Melosovic, your leader during that era.

They are not for the slaughter of people based on their nationality, Ukraine is not killing Russians in Crimea.

[MarkoMaxX]

Ok, I stayed out of this thread for a while. I researched the Kosovo war a bit, it looks like a large part of the war there and the intervention from NATO was because the ethnic cleansing of Albanians carried out by the Serbian army through orders through Melosovic, your leader during that era.

They are not for the slaughter of people based on their nationality, Ukraine is not killing Russians in Crimea.

Yes, Milosevic was a asshole, he was a crazy person that people loved for to me unknown reasons. But he was protective asshole.

But seriously?! Ethnic cleansing? Is that what documentaries tell? It's clear they are production of US politics.

There are not documentaries about what Albanians did to our people there, no documentaries at all. War happened because they started it and our people had to protect ours in Kosovo. In 1995 Albanian rebel groups (terrorists!) attacked our people in Kosovo, and we didn't respond, then the attacks continued. Each one of the leaders of Kosovo and Albanian army at that time was a CERTIFIED and KNOWN TERRORIST. And US and EU helped those terrorists and blamed us for ethnic cleansing.

Adem Jashari - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia You see that guy? He is a "Hero of Kosovo", they praise him as he is their God. US and EU helped HIM. He is a terrorist that killed hundreds of Serbian civilians and soldiers, yet he is praised as a hero..

After war was finished with brutal NATO "intervention" that killed hundreds, and hundreds of innocent people, EU stated that Kosovo is Serbian autonomous territory.
War finished in 1999, and Kosovo declared itself independent in 2006. So war is just an excuse for EU and US to break international law or lets say "make up" one.

Crimea had it's share of wars as well. If Ukraine attacked Russians on Crimea to just clean it off from Russians and then Russians responded and got in war with Ukraine. Do you think US would take Russian side? No, NATO would start war with Russia and side with Ukraine.

I won't say anything else tho, because it's far different to live through those times than to see it on documentaries. I know what happened because I witnessed it and my father fought in it.

EDIT: Also, don't think NATO intervention was because they cared about Kosovo, Albanians or people there.. It was just an excuse to show and test their force on living victims, to test their new technology and show everyone else how powerful they are. Like I said, there are some people that were former EU members and NATO members that revealed what was really going on and how NATO dropped depleted uranium on whole village and blamed someone else..and many other things..

[KidComet]

Обама начнет третью мировую с Крыма




Russian article from 2008: "Obama will trigger World War III starting from the Crimea peninsula"






lol been planned for 5 years
translattipon below



SPOILERUnder the new U.S. President Barack Obama in the Crimea will be implemented scenario of armed conflict. " It is the American scenario , and under Obama the probability is much higher than under McCain, " - said at a roundtable in Kiev, Russian political scientist Andrei Okara , said " New Region " .
Expert explains : "It became clear when it was announced that what people will represent the Obama team . These are people whose professional registration - Wall Street. These people are engaged in a technology called " technologies of controlled chaos . "

According to Okara , after Georgia area " controlled chaos " in the first place , was to be the Ukraine, namely - Crimea . " This is the point of a fire , including global conflicts that escalate into a world war , which, unfortunately , is one of the scenarios , the implementation of which at the moment from the real " - says the analyst.

His colleague from the Ukrainian Institute of Russia Andrey Blinov agree that Russia is not interested in such a conflict . " When people talk about the war in the Crimea or in the hamlet St. Michael , I believe that this scenario is marginal . A question more active economic participation of Russian capital is very likely. But it depends on when the crisis is over . If in 2010 , while Russia will be much weaker , "- said the expert .

U.S. ambitions toward Crimea confirmed and signed recently the Ukrainian- American Charter on Strategic Partnership . The Charter provides for the unconditional recognition of the sovereignty of Ukraine and its integration into NATO , increased U.S. presence in the Crimea and other forms of cooperation . U.S. Ambassador William Taylor in Kiev , however, reassured : " The Charter does not oblige any one of the two parties to assist military means ." And he added, if the boundaries are violated , " we will meet and discuss our next steps ."

In the second section of the paper devoted to defense and security , said the interest of both countries to " a strong, independent , democratic Ukraine " , whose integration into European structures "is a mutual priority." This section reiterates that Ukraine will join NATO . In the meantime , " recognizing the global threat to stability in the world, to prevent them Ukraine and the United States will strengthen their cooperation in defense and security issues ," - said the Ambassador. In addition, Taylor mentioned and concrete steps to improve the level of training and military supplies for the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

The fifth section is devoted to the expansion of human contacts and cooperation in the field of culture : Ukraine, as follows from the text ( as submitted by Taylor ) , " welcomes the intention of the United States to increase its diplomatic presence in the Crimea ." Format presence on the peninsula is still under discussion , " but it may be a structure with certain consular functions ."

The document also refers to the support of Kiev against Moscow on withdrawal of Russian Black Sea Fleet from Crimea .

The fact that Crimea is the most promising ground for destabilization beneficial both Americans and official Kyiv , observers say not the first month . Periodically pop up in the media , various scenarios by which the Ukrainian " Democrats " try to blow this " powder keg " redirecting claims to Russia . Proclivities pro-Russian activists Peninsula (like attempts to regain the Crimea to Russia through the court ) at the same time severely punished , but to complete victory over SBU " dissidents " , judging by the numerous symptoms , far away.

Provocations on the " Crimean direction " really can not be avoided , we are convinced , in turn , Ukrainian Communists . U.S. prepares to throw to the east ( aiming at this , of course, in Russia ) , but first they need to break the pro-Russian Crimea , ex - speaker of the Crimean parliament , Verkhovna Rada deputy Leonid Grach . Scheduled for next year open a representative office in Simferopol U.S. - the same series .

The fact that Ukraine is in range of the attention of the new U.S. president, analysts have stated previously. Obama will counterbalance Russia Ukraine , said political analyst Sergei Taran : " The first time the Ukrainians may be neglected by the United States, as Obama will be busy with internal problems the United States. But in the long term efforts of the U.S. Obama will resume his authority in Europe , and in the long term, the new U.S. administration will pay particular attention to Ukraine, which could be a counterbalance to Russia in the region, and in the future - even counterbalance the old Europe example of modern Poland . "

Ukraine will remain for the United States deterrent to Russia , agrees Ukrainian political analyst Andrei Yermolaev . According to him, Ukraine for American policy has been and remains instrumental object that is used in a rather cynical strategies.

Most " visionary " already hard rehearsing for the upcoming bout Crimea: from the opera - held recently in Kiev command post exercise on " Actions volunteer units on the Crimean theater of operations after the Russian military aggression ." Organizers merrymaking ( National Salvation Committee , which includes the party " Brotherhood " and " New Force" and association " Northern Brotherhood " ) argue that the conflict between Ukraine and Russia , which will be held no later than 2011 , the entire burden of resistance will be on voluntary organizations . Scenario Campaign General Staff of the Armed Forces has already been developed , sure " roleplayers " .