Re-release of No Ceilings & Kobe Bryant (2020 Version) tonight?

[tko]

Yes I saw, 25K is decent for a re-release. For reference So Far Gone did 45K last year. This is just one thing though lol and doesn't mean Wayne is "hot" again.
Funeral sold horrible, the week to week is really bad and it probably won't go Gold (may not have even hit 400K sales)
FWA Re-release could have just not happened - that's how much people didn't care.

But as I said -


and that Jack Harlow feature was a great placement as well.

Hopefully this means things may start getting better for Wayne - he was down bad this year.

I don't know man, i follow charts closely, maybe his fans always have such high standards, you claim Funeral is a big flop, but Lil Wayne isn't a new artist, and he still debuted at #1 selling 139k.

Do you know a mega popstar like Dua Lipa debuted with 60k or something like that with a smash hit ?

Yes, i know she has more longevity , but she also has like 3 or 4 tracks on the biggest Spotify playlists and lot of airplay!

So, you can't compare Lil Wayne with the hottest new rappers out there, but he's still doing numbers considering albums are not selling like they used to, even Em is not selling a million anymore.

And Weezy is not doing Ed Sheeran or Rihanna type of songs to boost his popularity.

[martian master]

I don't know man, i follow charts closely, maybe his fans always have such high standards, you claim Funeral is a big flop, but Lil Wayne isn't a new artist, and he still debuted at #1 selling 139k.

Do you know a mega popstar like Dua Lipa debuted with 60k or something like that with a smash hit ?

Yes, i know she has more longevity , but she also has like 3 or 4 tracks on the biggest Spotify playlists and lot of airplay!

So, you can't compare Lil Wayne with the hottest new rappers out there, but he's still doing numbers considering albums are not selling like they used to, even Em is not selling a million anymore.

And Weezy is not doing Ed Sheeran or Rihanna type of songs to boost his popularity.

I follow the charts closely as well. Eminem and Kanye both did 250+ with their last albums. Wayne is in-capable of that. Wayne is a "GOAT" right Then this is his competition - not Jeezy, TI, Ross and all the other "Legends" from that era. Additionally Wayne's week to week is much lower than his peers - new or old.

Eminem did 269 first week and is currently at 900+. Wayne fell out of the top 50 best selling rap albums of the year because his total sales was so bad. Last I saw he was around 360K and doing like 2-4K a week.


Based on his what his peers do, and what Wayne has done in the recent past, I expect much better sales from Wayne. 180K+ atleast first week and atleast Gold.

Artists who did much less first week this year (Moneybagg Yo - 66K, Megan Thee Stallion - 36K, Rod Wave - 72K) have caught up and since surpassed Wayne's album sales. 139 isn't even a top 10 hiphop first week this year. Even when the Deluxe dropped, it did like 12K. G-Herbo dropped his deluxe the same week and did 28K. G-Herbo. A "street rapper" with not much of a commercial presence. With less relevant features on his delxue compared to Wayne.

The first time Wayne has ever dropped and
Not had a top 10 first week hip-hop sales of the year since like Carter 1.
The first album he's dropped since Carter 2 that didn't have a top 30 single on hot 100.
His worst first week since IANAHB1 (which did not have a typical release).
His first album to not produce a single that went Platinum since Tha Carter.
His first album ever to not go atleast Gold.
*FWA is not counted for obvious reasons

My sources are Billboard, Rolling Stones and HDD.

[BrewCityCM]

I follow the charts closely as well. Eminem and Kanye both did 250+ with their last albums. Wayne is in-capable of that. Wayne is a "GOAT" right Then this is his competition - not Jeezy, TI, Ross and all the other "Legends" from that era. Additionally Wayne's week to week is much lower than his peers - new or old.

Eminem did 269 first week and is currently at 900+. Wayne fell out of the top 50 best selling rap albums of the year because his total sales was so bad. Last I saw he was around 360K and doing like 2-4K a week.


Based on his what his peers do, and what Wayne has done in the recent past, I expect much better sales from Wayne. 180K+ atleast first week and atleast Gold.

Artists who did much less first week this year (Moneybagg Yo - 66K, Megan Thee Stallion - 36K, Rod Wave - 72K) have caught up and since surpassed Wayne's album sales. 139 isn't even a top 10 hiphop first week this year. Even when the Deluxe dropped, it did like 12K. G-Herbo dropped his deluxe the same week and did 28K. G-Herbo. A "street rapper" with not much of a commercial presence. With less relevant features on his delxue compared to Wayne.

The first time Wayne has ever dropped and
Not had a top 10 first week hip-hop sales of the year since like Carter 1.
The first album he's dropped since Carter 2 that didn't have a top 30 single on hot 100.
His worst first week since IANAHB1 (which did not have a typical release).
His first project ever to not produce a single that went Platinum.
His first project ever to not go atleast Gold.

My sources are Billboard, Rolling Stones and HDD.

You’re one of the only objective fans on this site

[Tha Mobb]

I follow the charts closely as well. Eminem and Kanye both did 250+ with their last albums. Wayne is in-capable of that. Wayne is a "GOAT" right Then this is his competition - not Jeezy, TI, Ross and all the other "Legends" from that era. Additionally Wayne's week to week is much lower than his peers - new or old.

Eminem did 269 first week and is currently at 900+. Wayne fell out of the top 50 best selling rap albums of the year because his total sales was so bad. Last I saw he was around 360K and doing like 2-4K a week.


Based on his what his peers do, and what Wayne has done in the recent past, I expect much better sales from Wayne. 180K+ atleast first week and atleast Gold.

Artists who did much less first week this year (Moneybagg Yo - 66K, Megan Thee Stallion - 36K, Rod Wave - 72K) have caught up and since surpassed Wayne's album sales. 139 isn't even a top 10 hiphop first week this year. Even when the Deluxe dropped, it did like 12K. G-Herbo dropped his deluxe the same week and did 28K. G-Herbo. A "street rapper" with not much of a commercial presence. With less relevant features on his delxue compared to Wayne.

The first time Wayne has ever dropped and
Not had a top 10 first week hip-hop sales of the year since like Carter 1.
The first album he's dropped since Carter 2 that didn't have a top 30 single on hot 100.
His worst first week since IANAHB1 (which did not have a typical release).
His first project ever to not produce a single that went Platinum.
His first project ever to not go atleast Gold.

My sources are Billboard, Rolling Stones and HDD.

I really liked this breakdown; you right in saying funeral tanked hard lol. (got nothing against the album myself, but it is FAR from what wayne is capable of)

[lilwayneFAN6721]

LMAO imagine thinking sales are the most important thing in the world. He doesn’t care about sales. He’s made it clear as day that he just wants to make music. He could care less if we like it or not. Y’all funny

[KnockMeOut]

It does sound different, it's the same recording but different mix, sounds like they removed the light autotune that was on the og



don't forget there is a version with Drake in the vaults: Drake Says He's On A Remix Of Lil Wayne's 'I'm Single' - MTV

I wonder if they meant to drop it this time but messed it up again lol

[Mnjaro]

LMAO imagine thinking sales are the most important thing in the world. He doesn’t care about sales. He’s made it clear as day that he just wants to make music. He could care less if we like it or not. Y’all funny

Where did wayne say he doesn’t care about sales? And even if he did, the people who he is signed to care about sales, that’s how they make money. If he isn’t selling we’ll end up with another C5 situation where they won’t let him drop music

[Zodiac!]

I don't know man, i follow charts closely, maybe his fans always have such high standards, you claim Funeral is a big flop, but Lil Wayne isn't a new artist, and he still debuted at #1 selling 139k.

Do you know a mega popstar like Dua Lipa debuted with 60k or something like that with a smash hit ?

Yes, i know she has more longevity , but she also has like 3 or 4 tracks on the biggest Spotify playlists and lot of airplay!

So, you can't compare Lil Wayne with the hottest new rappers out there, but he's still doing numbers considering albums are not selling like they used to, even Em is not selling a million anymore.

And Weezy is not doing Ed Sheeran or Rihanna type of songs to boost his popularity.

Nas does 40 or 50k with King's Disease and gets respect and praise for his commendable numbers. It's a different Era 140k is okay. Not great but okay. Granted the following weeks after release were weak for Funeral which only demonstrates that interest and need for wayne is still there but people weren't digging the album.

[KnockMeOut]

Where did wayne say he doesn’t care about sales? And even if he did, the people who he is signed to care about sales, that’s how they make money. If he isn’t selling we’ll end up with another C5 situation where they won’t let him drop music

I'm pretty sure the C5 situation was Wayne not submitting the album because he wasn't being paid. Not Universal refusing to release it.
What is his situation now anyway? He owns YM and all his music and Universal is the distributor, no?

The idea that Funeral's sales are even low enough to consider that a label wouldn't put out his album is ridiculous. It still did more than double what other albums I was following around the same time did worldwide, from huge artists/bands like Green Day.

[martian master]

LMAO imagine thinking sales are the most important thing in the world. He doesn’t care about sales. He’s made it clear as day that he just wants to make music. He could care less if we like it or not. Y’all funny

Noone said it's the most important thing. But it is important, especially for an artist who is mainstream. Wayne does care. The people around him care. The label cares. It's delusional to think otherwise

Reaching two million listeners was a major milestone. At this point of your career, do you care about numbers?

Wayne: Numbers are always important to me because they simply don’t lie. I personally thank everyone that tunes in!

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I'm pretty sure the C5 situation was Wayne not submitting the album because he wasn't being paid. Not Universal refusing to release it.
What is his situation now anyway? He owns YM and all his music and Universal is the distributor, no?

The idea that Funeral's sales are even low enough to consider that a label wouldn't put out his album is ridiculous. It still did more than double what other albums I was following around the same time did worldwide, from huge artists/bands like Green Day.

He infers that the situation is like that but I don't really think it is tbh. Like Young Money artists (Gudda Gudda) are dropping their singles independently and not under YM - yet YM promotes it on social media. Also Funeral had multiple push backs didn't it If Wayne truly owned YM I don't think they'd be doing that. I think Universal still has a claw in the business. We will know for sure I think when Collegrove 2 comes out. If it's a true collaborative album this time or a 2 Chainz solo album with multiple Wayne features.

And eh - tbh it's not far fetched. Things like that can happen. If the label put in an amount of money and did not see return - which is possible since the album didn't even go Gold, they may choose not to spend on the next release. Compared to other rap releases from dudes of Wayne's stature such as Eminem and Kanye, it didn't do well and those were probably the projections the label used.


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Nas does 40 or 50k with King's Disease and gets respect and praise for his commendable numbers. It's a different Era 140k is okay. Not great but okay. Granted the following weeks after release were weak for Funeral which only demonstrates that interest and need for wayne is still there but people weren't digging the album.

Eh. Nas was never mainstream like that. And don't really see anyone talking about his sales (didn't even know what the projection was). Wayne is in (or should be in) the same league as Kanye and Eminem. 140 is an OK first week for a regular rapper - not a mainstream heavyweight. And the overall sales are weak as you stated.

[mania983]

Noone said it's the most important thing. But it is important, especially for an artist who is mainstream. Wayne does care. The people around him care. The label cares. It's delusional to think otherwise



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He infers that the situation is like that but I don't really think it is tbh. Like Young Money artists (Gudda Gudda) are dropping their singles independently and not under YM - yet YM promotes it on social media. Also Funeral had multiple push backs didn't it If Wayne truly owned YM I don't think they'd be doing that. I think Universal still has a claw in the business. We will know for sure I think when Collegrove 2 comes out. If it's a true collaborative album this time or a 2 Chainz solo album with multiple Wayne features.

And eh - tbh it's not far fetched. Things like that can happen. If the label put in an amount of money and did not see return - which is possible since the album didn't even go Gold, they may choose not to spend on the next release. Compared to other rap releases from dudes of Wayne's stature such as Eminem and Kanye, it didn't do well and those were probably the projections the label used.


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Eh. Nas was never mainstream like that. And don't really see anyone talking about his sales (didn't even know what the projection was). Wayne is in (or should be in) the same league as Kanye and Eminem. 140 is an OK first week for a regular rapper - not a mainstream heavyweight. And the overall sales are weak as you stated.

The fact that Wayne has features from OT Genasis, Adam Levine, Takeoff and The Dream and not Eminem, Kanye, Beyonce, Jay Z, Drake is a fucking crime

[martian master]

The fact that Wayne has features from OT Genasis, Adam Levine, Takeoff and The Dream and not Eminem, Kanye, Beyonce, Jay Z, Drake is a fucking crime

Lmao i just wanna know who decided to get OT Genesis