Best Rapper Debate Thread

[Sentus]

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Possibly, but he wouldn't be Tech N9ne then. On Alucard he states - "I am more than just a rapper, I will be now and yes I will be after". He is more than just a rap artist. To say Tech should just straight up spit would alter him and his music very greatly.

Yes you're right about that, he wouldn't be Tech N9ne anymore. I guess in my opinion that would be a change for improvement but that's all subjective.

[4747]

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Yes you're right about that, he wouldn't be Tech N9ne anymore. I guess in my opinion that would be a change for improvement but that's all subjective.

Yeah exactly, I mean everything comes down to personal preference, I rather Tech using effects and things and as you've said you would like to see him not use them or at least use them less. That's the problem with a thread like this, people have differences of opinion, I mean we may all be able to say for example that Nas is in the top 10 of all time but where we would rank him would end up differently and thus cause arguments.

[Sentus]

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Yeah exactly, I mean everything comes down to personal preference, I rather Tech using effects and things and as you've said you would like to see him not use them or at least use them less. That's the problem with a thread like this, people have differences of opinion, I mean we may all be able to say for example that Nas is in the top 10 of all time but where we would rank him would end up differently and thus cause arguments.

Oh of course lol, there will never be an agreement to this topic. I just think that the arguing is fun.

[MichaelJordan23]

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Would everyone actually shut the fuck up with people's opinions being invalid...it's a fucking opinion, it can't be invalid, you lot are acting like 5 years olds about this shit...

No it's not an opinion it's about reality.Tech N9ne has no business to be considered the GOAT.Your favorite or my favorite rapper is another discussion.
But when we speak about the Greatest ever it's not opinions or favorites it's the reality.
MC's like Eminem,Nas,2pac,Biggie,Jay-Z,Andre 3000,Rakim are in this level and in the discussion for the best ever.Because their impact and their success in the game are untouchable from the other.
Examples:In soccer my favorite player is Platini.How the fuck I can say that he is the GOAT or that he is better than Maradona?
Or how the Fuck I can say that Barkley is better than Jordan?
Tech N9ne is your favorite but in the reality he isn't even close to Biggie,Eminem,2pac,Andre 3k.
A kid could say that Soulja boy or Drake is the GOAT.That's why fuck the opinions if aren't objective.
We speak about the best ever and in this category are few names as candidates.

[shbasketball12]

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No it's not an opinion it's about reality.Tech N9ne has no business to be considered the GOAT.Your favorite or my favorite rapper is another discussion.
But when we speak about the Greatest ever it's not opinions or favorites it's the reality.
MC's like Eminem,Nas,2pac,Biggie,Jay-Z,Andre 3000,Rakim are in this level and in the discussion for the best ever.Because their impact and their success in the game are untouchable from the other.
Examples:In soccer my favorite player is Platini.How the fuck I can say that he is the GOAT or that he is better than Maradona?
Or how the Fuck I can say that Barkley is better than Jordan?
Tech N9ne is your favorite but in the reality he isn't even close to Biggie,Eminem,2pac,Andre 3k.
A kid could say that Soulja boy or Drake is the GOAT.That's why fuck the opinions if aren't objective.
We speak about the best ever and in this category are few names as candidates.

Its all opinions bro. There is no set in stone GOAT. Its all based on peoples opinions. Which is why Michael is arguably the best player ever as well.

[JSFG]

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Jay-Z always has a special place in my heart <3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

[Sentus]

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No it's not an opinion it's about reality.Tech N9ne has no business to be considered the GOAT.Your favorite or my favorite rapper is another discussion.
But when we speak about the Greatest ever it's not opinions or favorites it's the reality.
MC's like Eminem,Nas,2pac,Biggie,Jay-Z,Andre 3000,Rakim are in this level and in the discussion for the best ever.Because their impact and their success in the game are untouchable from the other.
Examples:In soccer my favorite player is Platini.How the fuck I can say that he is the GOAT or that he is better than Maradona?
Or how the Fuck I can say that Barkley is better than Jordan?
Tech N9ne is your favorite but in the reality he isn't even close to Biggie,Eminem,2pac,Andre 3k.
A kid could say that Soulja boy or Drake is the GOAT.That's why fuck the opinions if aren't objective.
We speak about the best ever and in this category are few names as candidates.

Their impact has nothing to do with being the GOAT. The Greatest of all Time comes down to how good of rappers they are, not how many records they've sold or how many awards they've won. All that stuff is worthless.

[4747]

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No it's not an opinion it's about reality.Tech N9ne has no business to be considered the GOAT.Your favorite or my favorite rapper is another discussion.
But when we speak about the Greatest ever it's not opinions or favorites it's the reality.
MC's like Eminem,Nas,2pac,Biggie,Jay-Z,Andre 3000,Rakim are in this level and in the discussion for the best ever.Because their impact and their success in the game are untouchable from the other.
Examples:In soccer my favorite player is Platini.How the fuck I can say that he is the GOAT or that he is better than Maradona?
Or how the Fuck I can say that Barkley is better than Jordan?
Tech N9ne is your favorite but in the reality he isn't even close to Biggie,Eminem,2pac,Andre 3k.
A kid could say that Soulja boy or Drake is the GOAT.That's why fuck the opinions if aren't objective.
We speak about the best ever and in this category are few names as candidates.

Tech N9ne easily could be considered on of the very best. I suggest that you go listen to all his albums before you make that statement again. Tech N9ne's impact on rap though, well he's the only rapper that drops collaboration albums where he gives unsigned artists a chance to shine. Tech has sold over 1 million records whilst keeping it independent. Tech's flow and lyrical composition is so advanced compared to most rappers. Being independant and selling that amount of records makes him successful in the game. His style makes him very impactful in the game. As far as being untouchable goes, are you aware of how many people look at Tech and admire him for his work? It's a lot of big named rappers.

Tech clearly can be regarded as one of the best, as far as being the best goes, that's personal opinion. You may prefer Pac telling stories of a struggling young black male, someone else may prefer Weezy's punchline and metaphor style, I prefer Tech spitting deep shit adding a whole new element to his style of rapping...

[MichaelJordan23]

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Jay-Z always has a special place in my heart <3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

And objective he is easily in the Best ever discussion.He is a candidate for Number 1 ever.

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Tech N9ne easily could be considered on of the very best. I suggest that you go listen to all his albums before you make that statement again. Tech N9ne's impact on rap though, well he's the only rapper that drops collaboration albums where he gives unsigned artists a chance to shine. Tech has sold over 1 million records whilst keeping it independent. Tech's flow and lyrical composition is so advanced compared to most rappers. Being independant and selling that amount of records makes him successful in the game. His style makes him very impactful in the game. As far as being untouchable goes, are you aware of how many people look at Tech and admire him for his work? It's a lot of big named rappers.

Tech clearly can be regarded as one of the best, as far as being the best goes, that's personal opinion. You may prefer Pac telling stories of a struggling young black male, someone else may prefer Weezy's punchline and metaphor style, I prefer Tech spitting deep shit adding a whole new element to his style of rapping...

Tech is a very good rapper don't get me wrong.
As I said objective he isn't a GOAT candidate.Because he isn't in the same class with the other names.How you can say that his legacy is bigger than Jigga's or Nas's?
As an example If you ask 10 hip-hop heads who is the greatest between Nas or Tech you know who will get most preferences.

[4747]

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Well you just told me a list of points as what would categorise someone as a GOAT candidate, and I proved all of those points.

Tech has been rapping longer, he's had a harder way in to the game to obtain fame and success than the likes of Jay-Z and Nas. No major deal means everything becomes harder but he's worked his ass off to get to where he is.

Yeah of course 10 hip-hop heads would agrees Nas over Tech because Tech is not a hip-hop artist, he is not just a rapper as he states himself.

[MichaelJordan23]

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Their impact has nothing to do with being the GOAT. The Greatest of all Time comes down to how good of rappers they are, not how many records they've sold or how many awards they've won. All that stuff is worthless.

Impact is important.I agree that sales and awards aren't so important but impact is important,no doubt about that.

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Well you just told me a list of points as what would categorise someone as a GOAT candidate, and I proved all of those points.

Tech has been rapping longer, he's had a harder way in to the game to obtain fame and success than the likes of Jay-Z and Nas. No major deal means everything becomes harder but he's worked his ass off to get to where he is.

Yeah of course 10 hip-hop heads would agrees Nas over Tech because Tech is not a hip-hop artist, he is not just a rapper as he states himself.

This is enough.That's why I said that few names are in the best ever discussion.
For you Tech is the best because he is perhaps your favorite or one of your favorites.
I love Ghostface and Slick Rick but I can't put them in the discussion for the number 1 ever.Top-20 and even top-10 yeah but here we speak about MC's who are Best ever candidates.
If you see I said that Weezy isn't in the discussion for the number 1 ever at this point.You can put him in the top-10 ever because he saved the game before 3 years but not even close as a candidate for the number 1 ever.

[Sentus]

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Impact is important.I agree that sales and awards aren't so important but impact is important,no doubt about that.

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This is enough.That's why I said that few names are in the best ever discussion.
For you Tech is the best because he is perhaps your favorite or one of your favorites.
I love Ghostface and Slick Rick but I can't put them in the discussion for the number 1 ever.Top-20 and even top-10 yeah but here we speak about MC's who are Best ever candidates.
If you see I said that Weezy isn't in the discussion for the number 1 ever at this point.You can put him in the top-10 ever because he saved the game before 3 years but not even close as a candidate for the number 1 ever.

Dude, who the fuck are you to say who deserves to be in the best rapper of all time discussion. I know rappers who shit all over Nas & Jay-Z, Jay-Z is fucking garbage now, his last 3 albums sucked dick. And the fact that you think Lil Wayne is the only good rapper of this generation proves how little you know about Hip-Hop and why you shouldn't be deciding who can be a goat and who can't