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Retiring from the forum
"Wassup fam? I'm sure a lot of you won't give a shit about this, but nonetheless, I wanted to write this as a personal goodbye to the forum.
I spent a lot of time on this forum over my teens and early 20s and have a lot of fond memories with all of you, especially leading up to the C5 release between 2014-2018. There was a lot of great speculation, a lot of great releases (SFTW2, NC2, FWA, CG1, D6, In Tune We Trust), and moments. Although it was turbulent and difficult for us to estimate what direction Wayne's career was going, it was exciting 'cause Wayne was focused, mature, and ambitious, and it showed itself through the music.
When C5 finally saw the light of day, it was an awesome time to be a fan, hearing Wayne's music around town Wayne getting his flowers across hiphop as the GOAT and cementing his legacy through a mature, grounded, but creatively diverse album. this would have been an awesome retirement spot but I was beyond hopeful and excited to see what Wayne's late career had in store. So when Funeral dropped in the state that it did, I was pretty let down. But still, I saw some shining examples between the mediocre songs. I was confident that with a bit more focus and attention, he could release something on par with C5 again. I mean, we had 8 years of album material he couldn't release, and he's in the studio 24/7, right?
No Ceilings 3: NC3 dropped, and it was sloppy and rushed. But again, I excused it because the looming threat of 10 years in jail was present, which would explain Wayne's lack of focus on the project.
Trust Fund Babies: Rumors emerged Wayne was releasing a collab album with... Rich the Kid? Wait, what? What about 'I Can't Feel My Face'? What about T-Wayne? Or the Drake & Wayne album? But okay, after ruminating, I eventually accepted it and anticipated to see where it would go. Compared to others here, I didn't mind RTK too much due to him collaborating with other artists I listened to before, and at the time, he had some decent singles out. The project dropped, and shocker, it was bad... but it had a couple of keeps (Feeling Like Tunechi & Trust Fund).
Collegrove 2: Accepting that for what it was, we had known Wayne was working on a project with 2 Chainz, which was started in 2019 and was worked on consistently throughout the COVID lockdowns and still hadn't seen the light of day. A snippet released, 'LALALA', that sounded amazing. Wayne sounded focused again and energetic, and the song sounded good. I was hopeful that this would reflect on the project itself and be where Wayne would return to a focused, coherent vision again. I mean, 2 Chainz's last few releases were mature and featured amazing production and execution. Finally, Collegrove 2 released, and wow, was it a letdown. It sounded rushed? How Wayne and Chainz had been working on this project for almost 5 years at that point, and it came out in the state it did? This was a big shock to my system as a Wayne fan. That 'LALALA' snippet was one single gem amongst so much mediocre, boring-sounding songs, and the only song I ever revisit. But I overplayed the snippet. Wayne barely participated in the marketing for the project, and he sounded and appeared so disinterested in this project, and it showed in how sloppy the album itself sounded.
The Fix Before the Six: In the midst of this, Wayne released 'The Fix Before the Six', which was his first solo commercial release since FUNERAL that was meant to get us excited for C6, and my god, was it bad... and sad. KatFood flopped. The project had ridiculous moments like 'Birds' and sloppy moments like 'Slip' hook. It sounded bad and not very promising relating to Wayne's future releases. From this album, I kept nothing and haven't felt compelled to return to it.
In the midst of everything listed here, Wayne seems more detached and unfocused than ever regarding his career ambitions. Constant boring sport show appearances, lazy performances, a complete disregard for his appearance, and just overall incoherence that makes tracking and following his career more of a chore than an enjoyable experience. The only thing holding it down for me is a few great features, but it's just not worth going out of my way to chance whether a feat will be good or another distorted, scattered, unfocused mess. There is no excitement or energy in Wayne anymore, and the only time I see him even slightly excited about something, it's sports or skating-related. It's just agonizing to be a fan at this rate because I never got into Wayne for his skating or sports analyst shit. I listened to him 'cause he was my fav rapper.
The most important point I want to make is regarding the terrible, terrible engineering and production value. I've beaten you all over the head talking about this, but felt the need to finally make a point of that here. The music itself sounding creatively void and sloppy isn't assisted in turn by the audio quality sounding the way it does. It hurts my ears to listen to and makes Wayne sound like a SoundCloud artist who is trying to make a come-up.
I've sat patiently waiting for Wayne to have a '4:44' moment or just have an album that sticks to his core sound and appeases the fans that he has remaining, similar to other legends of the game such as Eminem, Kanye West, Jay Z, Nas, etc. But instead, he chases trends in such sloppy ways and attempts his hardest to be a Young Thug clone whilst also not leaning into anything that makes Young Thug appealing to people in the first place. One good thing that's happened since this tragic fall-off is that Wayne's old stuff sounds better than ever for me. Projects I was so/so on growing up, such as IANAHB2 and D4, give me a lot of joy to revisit now. A tape like NC2 sounds like a masterpiece to me now as well. I have a lot to still enjoy from Wayne, but his stuff is becoming less and less worthy of tapping into.
Because of all the above, I don't think Wayne's music is for me anymore, and that's fine. I don't want to keep logging on here and raining on the parade of the few people who get enjoyment from his music still, and I feel my critiques and suggestions aren't really going anywhere productive anyway. Logging on here is boring at best for me and stressful at worst. I may revisit if C6 is an album that exceeds expectations and restores the feeling, but if I listen and it doesn't click for me, I'll save myself and you the trouble of writing messages on here and arguing with stans about how I feel about Wayne's current career.
I would encourage the stans on here to branch out and listen to new music 'cause hip-hop is more diverse than ever, and there's a lot of great music still being made and coming out.
Thanks for the memories and good times <3."
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reviews of albums/tapes over recent years
https://forum.lilwaynehq.com/lil-way...iocre-sidestep
https://forum.lilwaynehq.com/lil-way...rwhelming-mess
https://forum.lilwaynehq.com/lil-way...ii-the-defence
https://forum.lilwaynehq.com/lil-way...funeral-deluxe
https://forum.lilwaynehq.com/lil-way...ows-of-funeral
I spent a lot of time on this forum over my teens and early 20s and have a lot of fond memories with all of you, especially leading up to the C5 release between 2014-2018. There was a lot of great speculation, a lot of great releases (SFTW2, NC2, FWA, CG1, D6, In Tune We Trust), and moments. Although it was turbulent and difficult for us to estimate what direction Wayne's career was going, it was exciting 'cause Wayne was focused, mature, and ambitious, and it showed itself through the music.
When C5 finally saw the light of day, it was an awesome time to be a fan, hearing Wayne's music around town Wayne getting his flowers across hiphop as the GOAT and cementing his legacy through a mature, grounded, but creatively diverse album. this would have been an awesome retirement spot but I was beyond hopeful and excited to see what Wayne's late career had in store. So when Funeral dropped in the state that it did, I was pretty let down. But still, I saw some shining examples between the mediocre songs. I was confident that with a bit more focus and attention, he could release something on par with C5 again. I mean, we had 8 years of album material he couldn't release, and he's in the studio 24/7, right?
No Ceilings 3: NC3 dropped, and it was sloppy and rushed. But again, I excused it because the looming threat of 10 years in jail was present, which would explain Wayne's lack of focus on the project.
Trust Fund Babies: Rumors emerged Wayne was releasing a collab album with... Rich the Kid? Wait, what? What about 'I Can't Feel My Face'? What about T-Wayne? Or the Drake & Wayne album? But okay, after ruminating, I eventually accepted it and anticipated to see where it would go. Compared to others here, I didn't mind RTK too much due to him collaborating with other artists I listened to before, and at the time, he had some decent singles out. The project dropped, and shocker, it was bad... but it had a couple of keeps (Feeling Like Tunechi & Trust Fund).
Collegrove 2: Accepting that for what it was, we had known Wayne was working on a project with 2 Chainz, which was started in 2019 and was worked on consistently throughout the COVID lockdowns and still hadn't seen the light of day. A snippet released, 'LALALA', that sounded amazing. Wayne sounded focused again and energetic, and the song sounded good. I was hopeful that this would reflect on the project itself and be where Wayne would return to a focused, coherent vision again. I mean, 2 Chainz's last few releases were mature and featured amazing production and execution. Finally, Collegrove 2 released, and wow, was it a letdown. It sounded rushed? How Wayne and Chainz had been working on this project for almost 5 years at that point, and it came out in the state it did? This was a big shock to my system as a Wayne fan. That 'LALALA' snippet was one single gem amongst so much mediocre, boring-sounding songs, and the only song I ever revisit. But I overplayed the snippet. Wayne barely participated in the marketing for the project, and he sounded and appeared so disinterested in this project, and it showed in how sloppy the album itself sounded.
The Fix Before the Six: In the midst of this, Wayne released 'The Fix Before the Six', which was his first solo commercial release since FUNERAL that was meant to get us excited for C6, and my god, was it bad... and sad. KatFood flopped. The project had ridiculous moments like 'Birds' and sloppy moments like 'Slip' hook. It sounded bad and not very promising relating to Wayne's future releases. From this album, I kept nothing and haven't felt compelled to return to it.
In the midst of everything listed here, Wayne seems more detached and unfocused than ever regarding his career ambitions. Constant boring sport show appearances, lazy performances, a complete disregard for his appearance, and just overall incoherence that makes tracking and following his career more of a chore than an enjoyable experience. The only thing holding it down for me is a few great features, but it's just not worth going out of my way to chance whether a feat will be good or another distorted, scattered, unfocused mess. There is no excitement or energy in Wayne anymore, and the only time I see him even slightly excited about something, it's sports or skating-related. It's just agonizing to be a fan at this rate because I never got into Wayne for his skating or sports analyst shit. I listened to him 'cause he was my fav rapper.
The most important point I want to make is regarding the terrible, terrible engineering and production value. I've beaten you all over the head talking about this, but felt the need to finally make a point of that here. The music itself sounding creatively void and sloppy isn't assisted in turn by the audio quality sounding the way it does. It hurts my ears to listen to and makes Wayne sound like a SoundCloud artist who is trying to make a come-up.
I've sat patiently waiting for Wayne to have a '4:44' moment or just have an album that sticks to his core sound and appeases the fans that he has remaining, similar to other legends of the game such as Eminem, Kanye West, Jay Z, Nas, etc. But instead, he chases trends in such sloppy ways and attempts his hardest to be a Young Thug clone whilst also not leaning into anything that makes Young Thug appealing to people in the first place. One good thing that's happened since this tragic fall-off is that Wayne's old stuff sounds better than ever for me. Projects I was so/so on growing up, such as IANAHB2 and D4, give me a lot of joy to revisit now. A tape like NC2 sounds like a masterpiece to me now as well. I have a lot to still enjoy from Wayne, but his stuff is becoming less and less worthy of tapping into.
Because of all the above, I don't think Wayne's music is for me anymore, and that's fine. I don't want to keep logging on here and raining on the parade of the few people who get enjoyment from his music still, and I feel my critiques and suggestions aren't really going anywhere productive anyway. Logging on here is boring at best for me and stressful at worst. I may revisit if C6 is an album that exceeds expectations and restores the feeling, but if I listen and it doesn't click for me, I'll save myself and you the trouble of writing messages on here and arguing with stans about how I feel about Wayne's current career.
I would encourage the stans on here to branch out and listen to new music 'cause hip-hop is more diverse than ever, and there's a lot of great music still being made and coming out.
Thanks for the memories and good times <3."
ā
reviews of albums/tapes over recent years
https://forum.lilwaynehq.com/lil-way...iocre-sidestep
https://forum.lilwaynehq.com/lil-way...rwhelming-mess
https://forum.lilwaynehq.com/lil-way...ii-the-defence
https://forum.lilwaynehq.com/lil-way...funeral-deluxe
https://forum.lilwaynehq.com/lil-way...ows-of-funeral
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